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  • Stamets,
    @Stamets@lemmy.world avatar

    I was being sarcastic. I very much do get it. Choke me daddy.

    qyron,

    Please, can someone be so kind and explain me why choking has become such a fetish/kink?

    I’m already aware of the mechanics behind it but I want to understand what motivates someone to turn a life threatning situation into sexually pleasing.

    dumpsterlid,

    Are you expecting some kind of rational answer? A fetish or kink is basically defined by the sexual desire for something irrational. You can ask how that desire feels to possess or how one goes about playing out that desire in a safe consentual way… but you can’t really ask why, why doesn’t really come into it. It is sex, all of it is weird.

    qyron,

    I am, in fact. People can be extremely coherent explaining why something floats their boat and some other thing does not.

    Feet, ankles, legs, tits, ass, pork and beans, ballons, clowns, wiped cream, chips, dips, chains and wips…

    Most people can explain why something appeals to them.

    But what I specifically want is a rationalization for why choking as become such a mainstream fetish lately.

    Kiwi_Girl,
    @Kiwi_Girl@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    I guess for any fetish, this many people have always had it. Since it’s easier now to find others that enjoy it, they’re more comfortable talking about it openly?

    AnneBonny,

    Are you asking what the appeal of it is or why is it popular?

    qyron,

    At this point, both.

    AnneBonny,

    People just want to try something new I imagine. It is entry level BDSM and you don’t have to buy (or hide) any equipment.

    Riven,
    @Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    It doesn’t and shouldn’t be life threatening. It’s the feeling of light-headedness that enhances everything else that also surrounds that kink. You’re actually not supposed to choke your windpipe but instead squeeze the sides of the neck to slow down but not stop blood flow. If done right and for short amounts of time it shouldn’t be life threatening at all. Of course with like everything else there’s a lot of people who don’t know/don’t care about the proper way to do it and end up just chocking their windpipe and stopping their breathing, which is extremely dangerous.

    qyron,

    As I state above, I’m already aware of the mechanics.

    What I am hoping for is someone sharing what impulse turned a warning sign into a pleasure trigger for them.

    Gaspar,
    @Gaspar@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    In the interest of disclosure, I don’t have a choking kink - but I’ve also been on the internet for nearly three decades at this point so who even knows anymore.

    My understanding is that a large part of it is trust. The chokee is quite literally putting their life in someone else’s hands and saying, “I trust you enough to do this without killing me.” Of course, throw it into casual relationships and it kind of muddies that a little bit - after all, how can you trust someone you just met at a bar/on Tinder/etc. enough to know that they won’t kill you? But I think that’s where it starts, anyway.

    Gullible,

    Rape play is the most common kink. You are, after all, an animal with a specific genetic history. Wind back the clock a few centuries and it makes a bit more sense. Thankfully, these days we can do it consentingly. To answer your question, it’s complicated and involves trusting your partner.

    kool_newt,

    This trend is about as dumb as the 8th grade make you faint trend.

    Edgarallenpwn,

    I dont see how basic bdsm is a trend. Seems like every generation has a bdsm awakening at some point, everyone gets used to it, forgets about it or continues to play. Then after another 10-15 years it comes back.

    Xanthrax,
    @Xanthrax@lemmy.world avatar

    My partner is super shy about it. She said she fantasizes about being taken advantage of, but obviously she would hate it irl. It’s a role play thing; there’s lots of, “you okay? Do you need me to stop? Etc…”, and then right back into the dirty talk. It doesn’t have to be an asphyxiation/ lightheaded thing either. It’s a lot like getting whipped, having your hair pulled, getting bit/ scratched, etc…

    I think a lot of it has to do with how women and sex are depicted in the media, and that creates fetishes growing up. Some people also like certain parts of the body. I noticed most people who like to get choked, like hands.

    RIP_Cheems,
    @RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world avatar

    Because the brain weirdly likes it. Oxygen deprivation can lead to a felling of being high or being more aware.

    fsxylo,

    Tricking the body to release it’s natural pain killers which also feels really good.

    TokenBoomer,

    This might help.

    intensely_human,

    So here’s my theory on masochistic kinks in general.

    • Sexual pleasure can be an escape from pain or negative emotions
    • Using sexual pleasure to escape from some pain, via the mechanism known as “classical conditioning” makes that pain a trigger for the sexual response. It creates an (at least one-way) association from the pain to the sexual release.
    • Anticipation of sexual release triggers preparation for it, ie arousal

    So I’m gonna talk about some dark shit here. Let’s say a woman is about to be killed by a mugger in an alley. He’s beating the shit out of her because he’s a sadist and the mugging is just an excuse to himself, to get violent with people. She, or that monster part of her that comes out when her life is threatened, to protect her, decides to try and reframe the situation as sexual in order to maybe survive. So she seduces him. It works. He stops being violent with her. It’s like, it’s an act but she knows it has to be convincing enough to save her life so she gets into it, to be convincing.

    It’s just fire together, wire together stuff. Painful, ugly, shameful, or disturbing experiences get associated with later sexual “reward” (in the technical, operant conditioning sense of the word), and that gets reinforced through repeated activation if the person indulges in it.

    TL;DR:

    • Some pain or a negative emotion experience precedes sexual release in time
    • Preceding in time creates classically-conditioned association. Pain now activates sexual pathways
    • One thing that creates consistent preceding-in-time relationship is using sex as escape from negative emotions
    • One example (given above) is woman who escapes being killed by having sex with attacker
    • Another would be a guy who is humiliated and it’s unbearable so he jerks off just to feel something positive
    gmtom,

    God I wish that were me

    whoisearth,

    The dude or the girl? 😏

    Fur_Fox_Sheikh,

    Yes

    hungover_pilot,

    choke choke

    bruhduh, (edited )
    @bruhduh@lemmy.world avatar

    Dungeon ni Hisomu Yandere na Kanojo ni Ore wa Nando mo Korosareru Raw - Chapter 6.1 - 16 shiet and here i was reading manga with this type of story (mc rewind time when dies) and in this pic he just rejected girl’s advances (sauce is: Dungeon ni Hisomu Yandere na Kanojo ni Ore wa Nando mo Korosareru) also as wn reader i gotta warn those who’ll start it, it’s some “Inception” type of shit

    can,

    A wn reader?

    Fraylor,

    Might mean webnovel.

    ezures,

    me reading it: oh its not that bad

    !chapter 5 oh, he woke up gently… big mistake!<

    bruhduh, (edited )
    @bruhduh@lemmy.world avatar

    Try web novel zetrotranslation.com/…/my-yandere-girlfriend-hidi… >!dungeon is just the prologue, after he finish dungeon that girl gonna snap and destroy the world and then he’ll meet god and god be like: bruh u fucked up now go 100 years prior to save the world, and lemme remind you, story started with story how mc have extremely rare white hair and was hated because some person with white hair 100 years ago betrayed humanity, also picture i commented before is from after the moment you commented, she was kinda mad when he rewinded time, look up raws!<

    Kowowow,

    I had a chick offer me her number so I could give her directions but I just looked up the place and showed he the route on google maps, I didn’t catch on till someone who over heard asked if I was just being rude

    She even said “I’m trying to give you my number!” and inside I’m like duh we already went over this

    anonymoose,
    @anonymoose@lemmy.ca avatar

    F

    Kowowow,

    Is that my grade or ar you showing sympathy?

    Kolanaki,
    @Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

    Both.

    AlexWIWA,

    It’s a reference to “Press ‘F’ to pay respects” from call of duty. Basically think of it like RIP

    Kowowow,

    Ah yes then it’s sympathy then

    AlexWIWA,

    Indeed

    anonymoose,
    @anonymoose@lemmy.ca avatar

    Yes

    Agent641,

    I once had a girl stop me in the street and ask me for directions back to her hotel. She said she was new in town and wanted to meet some locals. I showed her on the map that it was on the same street as we were standing, just four blocks down. She laughed and said something like, “Im not sure, can you walk there with me?”

    And I pointed and was like “its literally that building down there!”

    And she goes "Oh… " and wandered off, then crossed the street and went into a cafe

    To this day Im not sure if I missed out on getting laid or losing my kidneys.

    Leate_Wonceslace,
    @Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    Either way, it’ve been an adventure.

    psud,

    When I was young I missed so many signals (though I dare anyone to understand the signals sent by a teen tomboy) I married the woman whose first move was a hug

    After being married, then after being divorced and too broken to date then I saw every signal, but they all quietened down (or I was missing them) when I was ready to date again

    Some non-signals are pretty bold though - at a recent music festival a woman wanted to kiss every man present. I’m not up for cheating so I dodged her

    She wasn’t out on the hunt, she was on ecstasy

    EmoBean,

    I had a girl start choking me when we made out in the back of my van for the first time. I have never been choked nor choked, so I didn’t really know what to do in the moment, just rolled with it. Later asked her about it and asked “is that what you like” to which she obviously said yes. People are horrible at communication, no wonder that relationship failed.

    kilgore_trout,

    If you didn’t agree to it beforehand, that can be an unpleasant experience and possibly break your relationship.

    EmoBean,

    I didn’t, it was, and it would have if I wasn’t so horny.

    In hindsight I should have listened myself. It never got better, only worse. And now I’ve been single for years because I cannot trust anyone.

    kilgore_trout,

    I understand, it is really scary.

    PutangInaMo,

    We’ve all been there lol

    I remember one girlfriend back in the day told me to talk dirty to her so I said “do you like that bitch?” While fucking one day and she broke down crying and I spent the next 30 minutes holding her balling her eyes out…

    Alexstarfire,

    Hope you learned what dirty talk is after that.

    devfuuu,

    “The dishes need to be washed”

    “That mirror needs to be cleaned”

    Hope I’m doing it right.

    Alexstarfire,

    Looks right to me. :)

    Acters,

    now my usual motto is “let things go”

    stebo02,
    @stebo02@sopuli.xyz avatar

    I mean, maybe she’s just Canadian right?

    can,

    We, uh, we choke people?

    stebo02,
    @stebo02@sopuli.xyz avatar

    i was referring to the running joke that Canadian people are always nice

    Kowowow,

    There was that over prime minister not too long ago who choked a reporter

    anonymoose,
    @anonymoose@lemmy.ca avatar

    It’s a reference to this classic

    can,

    Oh of course. Thanks.

    afraid_of_zombies,

    Yes, yes while screaming at them “admit bag milk makes more sense!”

    can,

    Which provinces even have that?

    Fraylor,

    Ontario did at least in 2009 2010 before I was deported.

    can,

    Was it everyone’s preferred container? I vaguely remember someone’s parents having bagged milk when I was a kid on the east coast but cartons were far more common. Sorry you got deported.

    llamapants,

    Am from Ontario. Can confirm we still do have bagged milk, judging by the bagged milk currently in my fridge.

    NewAgeOldPerson,

    Only indigenous people and South American mine rich lands.

    SturgiesYrFase,
    @SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml avatar

    Hey now!

    We also did some war crimes in Europe!

    Wilibus,

    Some do. One of the biggest wonders of my life has been growing up and learning how many women out there are actually into being choked, tied up, degraded and all other variety of sexual kinks.

    Sanyanov,

    Especially choked.

    Like, even girls not into BDSM stuff in general are super often into choking.

    Guess it has something to do with physiology of sexual sensations, in a twisted way of which our brains are full

    Alexstarfire,

    You didn’t get the memo?

    rickdg,
    @rickdg@lemmy.world avatar

    “My tooth hurts so bad I could choke you?”

    It’s a mistery.

    Sharpiemarker,

    Sounds like an Ace meme

    qarbone,

    I felt like that after I got wisdom teeth removed.

    Fraylor,

    You might want a dehumidifier if misteries happen often enough.

    ComicalMayhem,

    Does anyone have the original comic?

    stebo02,
    @stebo02@sopuli.xyz avatar

    wdym this is the original

    if you’re asking for the source it’s here

    Anafabula,
    @Anafabula@discuss.tchncs.de avatar
    Steamymoomilk,

    She wants a tall glass of water. Thats it

    Gestrid,

    “Oh, ok.”

    goes to get water from fridge to give to them

    Transporter_Room_3,
    @Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website avatar

    My now wife dropped her single status 7 times in the first conversation we ever had. So I asked her to go hiking with me. She agreed for some reason. Strange person she just met asking her to go alone in the woods with no one around?

    trustnoone,
    Transporter_Room_3,
    @Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website avatar

    Oh nooooooooo now I have to re-watch a ton of casually explained videos noooooooooo

    Incidentally, he just made a follow up to this video recently.

    Viking_Hippie,

    Yup, definitely Canadian.

    stebo02,
    @stebo02@sopuli.xyz avatar

    Is the printer one really supposed to be flirty? It just seems rude to me…

    Stamets,
    @Stamets@lemmy.world avatar

    That my friend is about as subtle as a brick. I love her.

    Transporter_Room_3,
    @Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website avatar

    She is about as subtle as a brick. Nuance and metaphor aren’t her strong points. But she has plenty of others.

    AngryCommieKender,

    You might wanna feed her more. She’s not supposed to be pointy…

    Classy,

    Ayy just about my exact experience.

    Me: Do you like hiking?

    Her: No, not really.

    Me: Oh that’s too bad. I was going to say we should go walk sometime, it’s really fun.

    Her: Well, uh, hiking isn’t that bad…

    IndiBrony,
    @IndiBrony@lemmy.world avatar

    One girlfriend. First date included getting in my car, and ended with me taking her to my house. We played Sonic 🥰

    But yeah, someone trusting you enough to get into your vehicle the first time you meet them is on one hand awesome ❤️ but on the other hand, like, dude be grateful I’m not a serial killer 😂

    killeronthecorner,
    @killeronthecorner@lemmy.world avatar

    I like that your description doesn’t preclude the possibility that you, and she, never returned from the hike.

    shalafi,
    afraid_of_zombies,

    My now wife and me were talking a day before our second date

    Me: oh so yeah there is a new restaurant pretty close to me and they serve food from your country. Haven’t been there yet. Want to check it out?

    Her: nah save your money. I will come to your place and cook.

    She did and the meal was amazing.

    shalafi,

    I’m the outdoors type, and I have fucked this up on dates SO many times.

    Last gf: SECOND date I take her out to my camp in the swamp. Yes, private land in the fucking boondocks. She was so outgoing, adventurous and into me I didn’t think about it! Few weeks later told me she was scared shitless.

    My new wife is a total city girl from Manilla. SECOND date I met her at a local hiking park at sundown (she was late, OK?!). It’s in the city, but still kinda wild.

    “But what if there are bears?”

    “I mean, it’s possible there are black bears, but they’re not coming near a human talking and making noise, and I have a pistol if it comes to scaring one off.” (Yes, I said that. Figured she knew I had a pistol, her ex was a gun nut, she kept hugging and feeling me all over on our first date, couldn’t hide it.)

    She stood there in the last pool of streetlight, violently shaking her head side-to-side.

    “Hey! It’s OK! Let’s go find something to do downtown!”

    Later told me she was afraid I’d drag her off in the woods and murder rape her. Gods I’m dumb. She took my hand in marriage, still scared of bears. Worked out!

    SturgiesYrFase,
    @SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml avatar

    Ha! My now wife realised on our first date that she was in a strange town, with no one she knew, and no one knew we were on a date. Cue her drunkenly asking me if I was an axe murderer and if I was going to chop her into little bits…about 40 times…

    I decided not to mention I collect knives until the 3rd date.

    Kase,

    You collect… just knives? What’s the extra freezer for, then?

    SturgiesYrFase,
    @SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml avatar

    Uhhh…for moose and elk…sweats profusely yeah…yeah…legally poached…errrrrr…hunted meat…that totally isn’t people…

    kilgore_trout,

    Why not? Most humans are reliable and it’s hard to find hiking partners.

    Mango,

    I don’t get it either, but somehow it still feels funny.

    uservoid1,

    Green hoodie like to get choked

    Anarki_,

    I’m sorry but… How is that a green hoodie?

    uservoid1,
    otter,

    Which is a green-altered blue.

    cashews_best_nut,

    Torquoise or petrol blue.

    Voyajer,
    @Voyajer@lemmy.world avatar

    Teal

    jettrscga,

    Paint says it’s R17 G159 B168. About even blue and green.

    Mango,

    Yeah! It’s obviously a girl!

    Kase,

    Nah, the hoodie likes getting choked. It’s just controlling the girl like a puppet

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