weeeeum,

Honing rods in the kitchen. People always try to use these to sharpen their knives but it never works and when their blade that’s dull as a butter knife isn’t any sharper they have a big hissy fit about it.

Most chef knives will form a burr (a deformation at the edge), even if sharp or very sharp, and this burr will reduce the cutting performance and it will feel “dull”. You don’t need to sharpen the knife again, it’s still technically sharp so it is honed instead. The honing rod’s grooves will realign the edge and the knife will be “sharp” again.

phoenixz,

I never use them to clean my earsz I use them to masturbate my ears. Nothing so good as a good ear scratching

Dkarma,

This dude spits str8 facts.

Also fun fact one of the arguments against using q tips is “addiction”.

WoodlandAlliance,

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  • ergifruit,

    really putting the “ooh” in “oo-mox”

    phoenixz,

    Uuuuuumooooxxxxx

    tiago,

    earussy

    ColeSloth,

    They aren’t being used wrong. It’s just that no one will say it’s OK to use them that way for liability purposes for when someone inevitably screws it up or already has too much wax. It also depends on what type of wax your ears make (people have different kinds. Wet, dry, or somewhere in between)

    I’ve used them for decades “the wrong way” and checked my ear canal with a little bluetooth camera thing made for ears. My canal and eardrums are immaculate, so it happens to work great for me.

    Cotton swabs were invented in the 1920s for the purpose of ear cleaning. They were marketed as such until around 1980 when the market became worried about lawsuits from people stabbing their ear drums or people with lots of wet wax built up already in their ears compacting it towards the ear drum instead of it getting cleaned out.

    oxjox,

    Hitachi Magic Wand.

    qyron,

    If a company can successfully desig, build and sell heavy machinery while at the same time manufacturing personal care items, let them be.

    TauZero,

    I am still sad Hitachi was too embarrassed to carry on the legacy of its name and sold off the Magic Wand brand to its subsidiary manufacturer. Hitachi, the brand name was a compliment to you, not a liability! You lost out.

    feef,

    What is its original purpose?

    jaguargoosey,

    Back massages

    MaxHardwood,

    And they’re only $50 for the actual Hitachi model. Always assumed it would be far more expensive.

    stolid_agnostic,

    Doctor Mike says not to do it, but I have been for years. This started when I got a wax ball that impacted against my eardrum and made me functionally deaf on one side until I could get into an urgent doctor’s appointment. The very next day, the same thing happened on the other side. I knew what was up for the second time and was able to get something from the pharmacy to handle it myself.

    As best I can tell, there are two dangers:

    1. Mechanical damage, perhaps caused by accidental means
    2. Leaving bits of cotton behind that can then become infected

    For me, I am fine taking this risk and plan to continue doing so daily.

    VinesNFluff,
    @VinesNFluff@pawb.social avatar

    Mechanical damage would require a major freak accident or you to be an idiot about it.

    The real issue (according to my doctor, who has a lot more patience than most doctors and actually educated my stubborn ass on this) isn’t just the cotton residue you mentioned (though that is very much a factor) but also the fact that for every [small unit of measurement] of wax the QTip pulls OUT, it is also pushing IN about [small unit of measurement] of it.

    This can mean infections, as you mentioned. As you push foreign content AND the wax (which is itself full of trapped bacteria) closer to your sensitive bits. It can also accelerate blockages depending on the consistency of your wax. If you have that issue that your ears get wax blockage periodically, q-tips ensure it happens even faster.

    stolid_agnostic,

    I have actually heard about the wax getting shoved in, so I know what you are referring to there. I have considered it but still think I’m better of continuing to use them. Everyone is different, though.

    Apparently most Asian people don’t actually produce noticeable ear wax, it’s more of a caucasian thing.

    VinesNFluff,
    @VinesNFluff@pawb.social avatar

    Not sure about noticeability, but yes, Asian people have different earwax consistency to whiteys like me. :P

    lemmefixdat4u,

    The Asians who have dry ear wax also tend to not have smelly armpits. It’s a genetic thing.

    smithsonianmag.com/…/a-lucky-two-percent-of-peopl…

    stolid_agnostic,

    What’s funny is that I got downvoted over that lol.

    I saw someone get downvoted into oblivion once for pointing out that a significant number of Asians don’t need deodorant. I think that there are a lot of default-white types who can’t think outside that.

    RampantParanoia2365,

    Q-tips were very clearly designed to clean ears. They just have to cover their ass now, and tell people it’s not safe. (I do not personally have very gooey ear wax and don’t use them much at all)

    SheDiceToday,

    As someone with wax issues in the ears, no, q-tips suck at cleaning ears. You’ll end up pushing the wax into your eardrum and causing the impacted wax that you were trying to avoid in the first place. That’s why I use those tiny screwdrivers. /shrug

    RampantParanoia2365,

    Ah, much less risky, I’m sure.

    Fosheze,

    I frequently need to clean my ears due to wax issues and I have used q-tips to do so for my entire life. I have only ever been told that my ears are immaculate at anual exams so this definitely depends on the person.

    quicksand,

    Yep, they don’t work for me at all

    Dkarma,

    This is only true if you have tiny ear canals and too much wax build up to begin with.

    SheDiceToday,

    Hey, you can’t just point out my tiny ear canals like that! There are people that love how they feel!

    electrogamerman,

    Toilet paper in your ahole.

    KrankyKong,

    Like inside? Shirley toilet paper is safe to use on the outside.

    AngryCommieKender,

    Pretty sure all TP is safe to use on the outside, not just the stuff made by Shirley

    PseudoSpock,
    @PseudoSpock@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    Surely you can’t be serious!

    stolid_agnostic,

    I’m confused, are you suggesting. an adventurous finger tip to keep things really clean or shoving a bunch up there?

    electrogamerman,

    Did I stutter with the “in”?

    ArmoredThirteen,

    I swear every time my spouse tries to use wd40 I have a stroke. We have several kinds of specific lubes for different situations ffs, all in the same easy to access bin, stop trying to use wd40 as a catch all super lube that’s not how it works.

    People don’t send letters much anymore but please don’t lick the envelopes. Just dip a finger in water. Just as easy, less germy, and doesn’t cause a lingering chemical taste.

    Nobody seems to understand how to use dental dams. Look it up, stay safe people.

    Tar_alcaran,

    Wd40 isn’t lube at all, it’s a solvent. Though the wd40 brand does make a whole lot of lubricants too.

    gens,

    Yea, it’s called Water Displacement formula 40. A penetrating oil mixed with stuff. Not nearly as goid as grease

    Tar_alcaran,

    Grease isn’t always the right thing either. For plastic-on-metal, you definitely don’t want grease.

    gens,

    Didn’t know that. Turns out some lubricants cause plastic to swell or harden and crack. Recommended to use silicone or special lubricants. readingplastic.com/choosing-the-right-lubricant-f…

    ArmoredThirteen,

    Hmm, most my door hinges have a little plastic ring on them I assume to reduce squeaking. Sounds like I should switch away from grease for those. Didn’t realize this

    Applejuicy,

    I had to look up dental dams, TIL.

    ArmoredThirteen,

    Glad to spread the word! They’re an important piece of PPE that a lot of people overlook

    bitwolf,

    I knew what they were but I am still not understanding the connection to WD40.

    ArmoredThirteen,

    I have tmj and so my jaw can lock shut sometimes. WD40 can be used to quickly un-seize my jaw so I can get some proper lube in there and keep enjoying what’s on the other side of a dental dam.

    cosmic_skillet,

    But those envelopes are tasty…

    ArmoredThirteen,

    I guess I could see them being tasty if you’ve got the palette of an 80 year old smoker who grew up eating poverty suspended in aspic.

    cosmic_skillet,

    Lol, that’s me!

    altima_neo,
    @altima_neo@lemmy.zip avatar

    It’s so sad stamps don’t need to be licked anymore.

    Nothing beats a licked envelope followed by a stamp chaser.

    ArmoredThirteen,

    Do you let out an airy ‘aaah, yep’ and slap the envelope onto the table, too? I just kinda want to see someone exasperated and hunched over a USPS counter being like ‘another!’ as they pull letters out one at a time and the register worker hands them just a single envelope and stamp each time.

    rufus,

    Greetings from my wife. She wanted me to send you this picture:

    https://discuss.tchncs.de/pictrs/image/5e4c2116-2e14-4664-9eb6-8fcfde2ccf04.jpeg

    ArmoredThirteen,

    Having grown up with Red Green I’m team duct tape 100% but I’ll die on my WD40 hill

    rufus,

    Hehe. Sometimes it’s just the way it is. We all have boundaries and our personal limits. 😆

    otter,

    Duck*

    ArmoredThirteen,

    Both have been used at different times so the words are effectively interchangeable. However I’d also like to point out that in my example specifically duct tape is the proper word to use as that’s how it is used in Red Green:
    https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/6216715b-c4dd-4c84-97d4-a8b425706436.jpeg

    otter,

    As a huge fan of ol’ Green (born & raised Michigander), and I don’t recall him ever using it on ducting, yet I can easily remember a plethora of examples where he used it for its hydrophobic sealing properties.

    sxan,
    @sxan@midwest.social avatar

    Casually suggest using WD40 as lube for the next sexy time. When they say “what,” you can say “why not? You use it for everything else.” Maybe it’ll click.

    Of course, this advice may negatively impact this, and possibly several future potential sexy times, but it’s a small sacrifice if it keeps people from using god damned WD40 as a fucking lube.

    thelsim,
    @thelsim@sh.itjust.works avatar

    So… being one of those spouses who uses wd40 on everything. Do you have link to some easily understandable info on when to use the right lubricant?

    AngryCommieKender,

    Not OP, but not really. The real issue is that WD-40 is kinda like duck tape. It definitely has its uses, and hoo boy are there a lot, but it’s too much power too fast, and corrupts young engineers and repair people into using it as a “fix all tool.”

    Sewing machine oil is a wonderful penatrating oil. This is what you use on tools inside the house that mostly just get a bit dusty.

    WD-40 does contain some oils and can be used as a penatrating oil, but it’s mainly a cleanser. You shouldn’t leave it on anything that will be damaged by cleansing solutions, so motherboards, plastic in general.

    For a general use oil, for hinges and things, I will clean with WD-40, and then once I have cleaned it I wipe it down with 3 in 1 penetrating oil, for things like door hinges, or sewing machine oil for more delicate tools.

    Edit: I had not seen the flowchart below when I wrote this comment, but it illustrates my first point beautifully

    thelsim,
    @thelsim@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Thank you, I’ll try to remember this next time something squeaks around the house :)

    maryjayjay,

    Upvote for correct use of “duck tape” 😁

    ryathal,

    Wd40 is good for preventing rust, and helping to get things that are seized moving again. If you want to lubricate a door hinge, something like 3 in 1 oil is a good choice.

    ArmoredThirteen,

    Yeah it has uses but specifically people seem to use it as a catch all which is where the misuse comes in. I’ve used it to unfuck rusty screws before it is great at that

    ArmoredThirteen,

    Mechanical stuff you’re looking at grease, oil, penetrating, or dry. I found this with a quick search for more info. Personally I’ve found white lithium grease to be the best general purpose one for my needs (squeaky hinges, drawer wheels) but it can be pretty messy if used in the wrong spots. For most fast moving things with fine parts (like a bike chain) I really like wax lubes but they can get gummy sometimes so silicone works well too.

    For sex I prefer water based because it is easier on toys and doesn’t make me fear for my life when trying to wash off in the shower after. It isn’t usually as long lasting as silicone based but it can be ‘revived’ with some water or other fluids. Anal I prefer oil based (shout out to Boy Butter because the name and logo are ridiculous but it works amazingly) but it also damages condoms so like if you’re not using an insertable go for the protection and silicone combo. For oral I’ll concede that wd40 actually has a use case here.

    ExperimentalGuy,

    Ive never used wd 40 during sex before. I’m sure it’ll be a surefire way to get an insurance covered vasectomy, also known as testicular cancer.

    ArmoredThirteen,

    I’m supposed to get mine removed next year but insurance is giving me the middle finger. Hoping my WD40 habits get me into the doctors sooner and with insurance.

    thelsim,
    @thelsim@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Thank you for that… thorough explanation. You really know your lubes :)

    PseudoSpock,
    @PseudoSpock@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    Simple. WD40 for most things, WD40 silicone for vinyl windows. Grease for bike chains.

    ArmoredThirteen,

    My soul 😭

    PseudoSpock,
    @PseudoSpock@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    😂

    lightnsfw,

    One easy rule of thumb is if you’re looking to lubricate something WD40 is never the correct choice. It’s not a lubricant, it’s for cleaning/breaking shit loose.

    catfish,

    The only thing worse than people using WD-40 instead of a better product, are the mental gymnastics performed by people pretending a product which is 35% oil and sold as a lubricant, actually isn’t.

    lightnsfw,

    If you want to use it as a lubricant go ahead. Just be prepared to have to do it more often than you would with a more suitable product.

    Fosheze,

    If you’re looking for an actual “all-purpose” lubricant try tri-flow lubricant. It’s technically a chain lube but it works pretty well for most light duty household stuff and it sticks around a whole lot longer than WD40. Generally wherever you think WD40 is a good idea that stuff will usually work better. The only downside is that it smells strongly like bananas for a while after you spray it on because it contains banana oil. It’s not a bad smell but it’s definitely noticable.

    WD40 is a bit of a catch all. It kind of does a lot of things but it isn’t great at any of them. It’s kind of a penetrating oil for busting things loose but it doesn’t work nearly as well as an actual penetrating oil. It’s kind of a part cleaner but it won’t work nearly as well as an actual part cleaner. It’s kind of a lubricant but it won’t work nearly as well as an actual lubricant. If you had one can of stuff to bring with you to a deserted island then WD40 would be the best thing to bring. But other than that there is always a better dedicated spray for whatever you want to do.

    itwasawednesday,
    @itwasawednesday@lemmy.world avatar

    Burns the ding dong

    ArmoredThirteen,

    For real, those envelopes chemicals are no joke

    TORFdot0,

    RIP susan

    qyron,

    Dental dams.

    I know what it is yet never found it selling.

    Licking envelopes.

    There was a time when the glue was somewhat sweet. I grew out of it quick enough - wasn’t willing to stick paper in my mouth - but not quick enough to not build that memory.

    WD40

    It has a very wide range of uses but there is a limit for it.

    Travelator,

    Screwdrivers are not actually pry bars.

    kboy101222,

    Blasphemy!

    CmdrShepard,

    You’ll have to pry it from my cold dead hands!

    DirigibleProtein,

    “Your offer is accepted!”

    Tar_alcaran,

    Says you. I have a set of old, cheap screwdrivers specifically for use as tiny prybars.

    sxan,
    @sxan@midwest.social avatar

    A screwdriver and a hammer together make a great tiny wedge.

    And you can use a flathead on Phillips heads, if you have enough gumption.

    Multi-tools psh. The flathead is a multitool.

    PseudoSpock,
    @PseudoSpock@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    But combined with a torch, they make quick and dirty soldering irons.

    blindsight,

    Well, big flathead screwdrivers aren’t for screwing things in. Small ones have a place for decorative screws, like on light switch covers, but big flathead screws should never be used.

    So big flathead screwdrivers are better as pry bars than as screwdrivers.

    memfree,
    @memfree@lemmy.ml avatar

    You’re telling me not to clean my ears with swabs??? I’m sorry, but I will swear forever that they are intended for the ears. The only issue is that the makers don’t want to get sued if anyone hurts themselves. I mean, c’mon, the Japanese use both ends of these in their ears! You want me to start doing that?

    mimikaki

    more | info

    JoeCoT,
    @JoeCoT@kbin.social avatar

    They were specifically created for cleaning ears. First line of the wikipedia history.. The reason Q-Tip says not to use them in ears is plausible deniability. They know they mostly get used to cleaning ears. But it's incredibly easy to puncture your eardrum doing that. In order to stop people from suing them for using their product in its main use case and hurting themselves, they simply specifically instruct against using it that way. While that is a wholly ridiculous falsehood, without it they'd have probably been sued so much that no one would make them. And then I wouldn't be able to clean my ears.

    Crotaro,

    This seems to be largely an American phenomenon, that people sue the maker of a product for themselves failing to use the product correctly, no? Or at least I can’t remember a single instance outside America where either someone sued the producer for using a product incorrectly or the producer pre-emtpively puts warnings on for ridiculous stuff to not get sued if people try these things.

    Either way, good to know that cotton swabs were primarily made indeed to clean ears. I don’t use them for that, but it always weirded me out when they came in those pastelle color packages with openings like tissues, perfect for a bathroom, but someone said “Yo, don’t use them for your ears! They were made for swabbing grease off motor chains.”

    JoeCoT,
    @JoeCoT@kbin.social avatar

    Not a lot of products have to do that. The one people bandy about is McDonalds adding "Caution: Coffee Is Hot" to their stuff, but the actual coffee spill lawsuit was over coffee hot enough to cause 3rd degree burns. Few things need cautions against their intended use.

    Q-Tips / cotton swabs are an almost uniquely bad tool. It's incredibly easy to rupture your ear drums. There's no actual health benefit to swabbing your ears -- it just feels good your ears get itchy. A safer tool could be made, but it'd be more expensive, more involved to use, and there's probably several but I can't be bothered to find out, and neither can you. They make a product that they know is inherently dangerous to use and has no specific benefit. So it has a warning against doing it. Same as cigarette packs have a warning that they cause cancer, even though everyone buying them knows that and smokes them anyway.

    littlecolt,

    Better ear cleaning tools exist. They are little plastic scoops. I used to use a bent paperclip. Basically anything you can put into the ear canal and then pull/scoop/scrape earwax out is far better than a qtip, which only compacts wax into clumps. The one good use case for the qtip is drying. They can absorb water well inside the ear canal and belly button. I personally use them on my navel after showering since I have an “innie”

    mackwinston,

    You can get soft silicone ear pickers with a built in camera now so you can see what you’re scooping.

    shapesandstuff,

    I’m going crazy this goddamn thread.

    Don’t shove things into your orifices. Wash your ears maybe with the help of your wet fingers under the shower. If you got fat fingers or tiny ears, maybe use cotton swabs etc on the other most area of the ear canal to clean away excess.

    Your ear is self cleaning. Dont stick anything in it.

    Like do people stuff cotton up their urethra to dry it after peeing? Leave your holes alone.

    littlecolt,

    I work in a call center where I wear headphones for 8 hours. I also game online and wear headphones at home for an hour or two each day. I am a very oily person. My ears DO NOT self-clean, as you say, given my situation. I use a peroxide ear drop every few weeks to cut down the buildup nowadays, then flush with an ear syringe. You can’t make generalizations. People should get to know their bodies and stay healthy. If I do not do these things I just described, by the way, I start to lose hearing after a few months.

    shapesandstuff,

    See, you’re describing washing them. Good.

    In ears also dont stop your ears from self cleaning, just means the final stretch has to be washed out i guess. As you do. Dont shove paperclips in there.

    And consider over/onear headphones maybe.

    People should get to know their bodies and stay healthy. If I do not do these things I just described, by the way, I start to lose hearing after a few months.

    Yes they do, through education and medical advice. Not by sticking things into their holes.
    If you got crazy buildup despite washing, you need to speak with a doctor too.

    littlecolt,

    I do not use in ear headphones. I believe you underestimate my oiliness.

    shapesandstuff,

    Alright. Don’t advice other people to out weird shit in their ears. And go see a doctor.

    littlecolt,

    Nothing I said was advice.

    lightnsfw,

    Don’t shove things into your orifices

    Don’t tell me how to live my life.

    shapesandstuff,

    Flared bases!

    interolivary,
    @interolivary@beehaw.org avatar

    Don’t shove things into your orifices.

    BUT I HUNGER

    shapesandstuff,

    Food hole is the exception

    zero_spelled_with_an_ecks,

    Yep, somehow America wound up doing thing that way, where instead of regulating preemptively, lawsuits are expected to do a lot of what regulatory bodies do in other countries. It’s an awful system and rarely benefits those that have been caused harm, especially when there are limits on punitive damages that are supposed to encourage corporations to not be shitbags. Individuals don’t have the resources to sue companies, either, so at best one occasionally gets a check for $2.14 for being part of a class that won a class action lawsuit.

    Omega_Haxors, (edited )

    Americans are giga sheep. If you want prospective of just how little they think for themselves, there was a misconfigured road in a GPS app and people kept literally driving off the road because their GPS told them to, even though it was clearly and visibly into a body of water.

    Then there’s also the hilarious Apple Wave prank, where a single image tricked people into nuking their phones. What makes that prank even funnier is that it was directly inspired by the iOS update that made your phone waterproof which people also fell for.

    Umbrias,

    Basically every absurd lawsuit you hear Americans do is either:

    • genuinely frivolous, tossed out of court immediately, amplified to paint suing corporations as bad
    • someone trying to get damages from a company which genuinely wronged them, often with life altering consequences

    Also jeez folks, clean your ears any other way, shoveling wax out of your canals with a non sterile tool regularly is asking for infections. The wax is there for a reason!

    dingus,

    I’ve been cleaning my ears with an “ear syringe” for years. Just squirt some warm water from the faucet in there and you can hear again. Works great and is reusable. They are like 10 bucks at your local drug store.

    SpaceNoodle,

    I don’t like having water stuck in my ear.

    Shurimal,

    Water only gets stuck in your ear if you have wax built up in your ear canal. Regular washing of your ear with warm water (and nothing else!) keeps the wax build-up under control and water will just pour out of your ear canal as soon as you level your head.

    smooth_tea,

    Pro tip if this happens, add more water.

    dingus,

    Sometimes I need a couple of more passes to unclog my ear. If I do it once and there is water stuck in my ears, it means I need to do it again. If I do it a few more times so my ear is unclogged, water will no longer be stuck in my ears.

    If your ears are clogged so severely that water alone won’t help, use something like Debrox or hydrogen peroxide first to loosen your wax plug. Leave it in there for a few minutes to let the wax soften. Then follow it up with mechanical disruption from water in the ear syringe.

    If your ears are too clogged so that even that doesn’t work, your clog is probably so severe that you need to see an ear, nose, and throat doctor.

    ArmoredThirteen,

    I’ve been doing this for a long time now too. So much better than anything else I’ve tried and you’d have to do something incredibly fucky to injure yourself.

    thelsim,
    @thelsim@sh.itjust.works avatar

    I actually got advised by my doctor to use vegetable oil for my daughter’s clogged ear. A drop of oil and some massaging for 20 seconds three times a day did the the trick. Took a few days, but the clog was eventually dissolved.

    JohnnyEnzyme,

    I use glycerin myself, but I’ll have to try vegetable oil next time.

    The other thing that greatly helps speed things along is letting the oil / glycerin sit for 5-10min, then following up with an ear syringe full of warm water. Instead of spraying directly ahead, they’re designed to safely spray to the sides, and the agitating motion of the water works well to clear the clog very quickly.

    mirtuevagnet,

    Most Japanese people have dry earwax: drypharmacist.com/types-of-earwax.html

    Obviously this is cleaned differently compared to wet earwax.

    pelletbucket,

    the tea bag was originally just a cheesecloth bag containing a loose leaf tea sample, and you were supposed to remove the tea from the bag

    Zagorath,
    @Zagorath@aussie.zone avatar

    That might’ve been the case originally, but it’s definitely not today.

    pelletbucket,

    lol we know

    FaceDeer,
    @FaceDeer@kbin.social avatar

    What?? I've been cutting my teabags open all these years! So much wasted time and effort...

    cosmic_skillet,

    Meanwhile modern teabags leach microplastics into your tea when used.

    afunkysongaday,

    Stick to old fashioned paper tea bags and you are fine. Don’t use those pyramid shaped silky ones.

    TheDarkKnight,

    Like PG Tips?

    stolid_agnostic,

    Just get a small teapot and don’t worry about it. Loose leaf tea isn’t any more expensive and allows you to control how strong you are making things.

    cosmic_skillet,

    The silky pyramid bags are the worst. Paper bags should be ok, unfortunately a lot of bags that appear to be paper might not be, or might be mostly paper with some plastic threads holding it all together. Almost impossible to tell just by looking at it.

    stolid_agnostic,

    Don’t buy brands that use plastic. Paper or loose leaf all the way.

    Nemo,

    No, I clean my ears with warm water. I dry them with cotton swabs.

    punkwalrus,
    @punkwalrus@lemmy.world avatar

    Scissors and knives.

    I used to sell high end stuff like that, and let me tell you, there’s a trope about crafters considering murder when someone uses their, say, fabric scissors or sewing scissors to cut paper or something that ruins them. For scissors, however, nothing is more expensive and delicate than a decent set of haircutting shears used by professional hair stylists. Fuck, some go into the HUNDREDS of dollars or more. And then some clown wants to cut some box open with them.

    Knives, though. Good set of chefs knives goes into the thousands. Like the kind used by professional chefs. I had some chef clients who tell me horror stories about some kitchen yokel using a $350 hand forged Santoku to stab open a can of tomato paste or toss into a cutting board like a throwing knife.

    But even basic knives. People using them as prybars, hammers, screwdrivers, and tossing them in a drawer with other metal rattling around.

    platypode,
    @platypode@sh.itjust.works avatar

    “Never use a knife as anything but a knife or you’ll end up disappointed and with a broken knife.”

    Not sure where I heard that first, but it’s stuck with me.

    averagedrunk,

    I have junk scissors that I buy for a couple of bucks and replace as necessary for all the things that I need to cut. I also have kitchen junk scissors for cutting open plastic that food gets packaged in. If I found someone using my poultry shears or kitchen knives for anything besides their intended use I would ask them to leave and never come back.

    Don’t touch my tools. That includes the things in my garage, my kitchen tools (cookware, knives, shears, barbecue stuff, whatever), and my electronics tools. I can’t imagine someone using one of my instruments incorrectly, but don’t touch those either. If you want to touch anything, ask. Don’t be surprised if I try to make sure you know the right way to use it before I hand it over.

    punkwalrus,
    @punkwalrus@lemmy.world avatar

    In Scouts, when we got issued our first pocket knife, they had a whole thing to go with it about care and responsibilities. One part that still sticks to me this day is, “never ever loan your knife to someone. There’s a reason they don’t have one, and it might be a good reason. Either they aren’t allowed to have one, or not responsible with their last knife and lost it, or broke it, or had it taken away. The same will happen to your knife if you give it to him.”

    verdigris, (edited )

    This is terrible advice, most people don’t carry a knife because it’s just not necessary in everyday life. That quote was clearly written for young boys playing with other young boys: if I asked a buddy for his knife and he said “Where’s yours? Guess you’re not responsible enough for one” I would get a new friend before I got a new knife.

    the absolute man-child energy coming off of the downvoters…

    punkwalrus,
    @punkwalrus@lemmy.world avatar

    “Most people don’t carry a knife because it’s just not necessary in everyday life.”

    See? There is a reason you do not have one, and would never ask for one.

    verdigris,

    No, genius, that’s a reason to ask for one.

    LesserAbe,

    I’m using your tools right now, and there’s nothing you can do about it

    averagedrunk,

    I’ll do to you what I do to other unwanted pests! I’ll yell “Go-on, getonouttahurr!” ineffectually while shooing you away with whatever I’ve got at hand.

    TeaHands,
    @TeaHands@lemmy.world avatar

    I have special sewing scissors, AND I have special haircutting scissors, as well as us having just regular everyday scissors of course. Can confirm after a couple of “incidents” my husband is now very very careful to pick up the right ones!

    Tar_alcaran,

    This is why I keep a cheap shitty knife with my camping stuff and in my toolbox. Because if you’re going to abuse the hell out of it, a 10 euro knife is just as good as a 100 euro one

    Shurimal,

    For scissors, however, nothing is more expensive and delicate than a decent set of haircutting shears

    I have a very cheap pair of haircutting scissors. I've used them to cut thin aluminium sheet. Still work OK for trimming my beard. I'm an absolute monster🙃

    As for knives, some 10 years ago I bought a cheap (I think 2 or 3 €) Swedish-made fixed blade with nylon grip—the kind contractors and builders use. Thing is pretty much indestructible, cutting open tin cans and splitting of splinters from logs for firestarter like it's nothing. Has a nice carbon steel blade and used to have very nice hollow ground that has been long been downgraded to flat ground due to many, many sharpenings.

    gsfraley,
    Shurimal,

    I doubt 0.1...0.2 mm aluminium sheet metal is good for any scissors🙃

    stolid_agnostic,

    I was shocked once when my roommate decided that the best way to get the freshly chopped garlic into her pot was to knock the blade side of the knife several times until the garlic fell off.

    RBWells,

    Well, my youngest child saw me opening a can recently and yelled “THAT’S how you use it?!” They had apparently been holding it horizontally and thinking the can opener sucked.

    vrek,

    How old are they? If they are 4 that’s cute, if they are 24 I’m concerned for their safety.

    Mothra,
    @Mothra@mander.xyz avatar

    In their defense, some models of horizontally held can openers look very similar to the vertical ones and it takes me a few attempts until I figure out I’m holding it wrong… No can opener I’ve used worked by suction though

    RBWells,

    Teenager. I think the one in their culinary class in school must have worked horizontal, or perhaps people in tiktok videos and they were somehow managing to use mine that way, painfully slowly. I didn’t know there even were horizontal can openers until I saw them trying to open a can. Mine is an ancient OXO one that still works great. Vertically.

    vzq,

    I haven’t seen a can that needs an opener in decades. I don’t even think I have an opener.

    vladmech,

    Do you not buy canned goods? Most everything we get needs an opener: veggies, beans, tomato paste/sauce, basically nothing has a pull tab.

    vzq,

    All my cans have pull tabs. I just checked: tomato, chickpeas, beans…

    Not one can without a pull tab.

    vladmech,

    That’s so weird to me; whereabouts are you from? I’m in California and just looked through my cans and maybe 10% of them have pull tabs. Apparently we have the jank can tech here haha

    vzq,

    I’m in the Netherlands. I thought globalized supply chains would keep our canned produce in sync, but apparently I thought wrong!

    I wonder if it’s some weird patent issue.

    vladmech,

    Big Can Opener is keeping the US down apparently! Really interesting to find these differences, have a great day and a nice time opening your more convenient cans!

    stolid_agnostic,

    It’s certainly to do with the fact that nobody wants to pay for new machinery when the old ones still work. As things break, I should think that we’ll see more items use pull tabs. FWIW Europe is way ahead of North America on this.

    stolid_agnostic,

    Having to use a can opener is really a North American thing. The rest of the world moved past that long ago.

    vladmech,

    Hah yeah that feels right…

    stolid_agnostic,

    They most certainly learned to use one of those top-cutting types rather then the vertical cutters. Completely different tool and I can see how that would be confusing.

    shinigamiookamiryuu,

    Passwords. We assume a hard to guess and everchanging password will be hard to crack, but the whole point of machines is that it can be pinpointed with utmost accuracy, and everytime someone tells you to use special phrases in passwords, they’re also inadvertently saying “hey thieves, here is what to look out for, happy guessing”. They’re supposed to be more like speakeasies.

    I remember long ago, when I was active as Dabran2 on Neopets, there was a vault with nine dropdown menus that you had to guess the combination to on the moon Kreludor. It was simpler and far more effective. To this day, I couldn’t tell you what’s on the other side (or I’d have to annihilate you and feed your remains to the turmaculus, assuming you believe I made it to the other side).

    Extrasvhx9he, (edited )

    Yeah knew a guy that used to work at a place where they had him change his password every 2 months or so kinda stupid. Entropy is really all you need to check. Also by special phrases do you mean salting peppering your passwords?

    shinigamiookamiryuu,

    What do you mean?

    Extrasvhx9he,

    The peppering passwords? That’s where you add a special word or phrase in all of your passwords but not in your password manager. It’s usually done in case your password manager becomes compromised thats why I got a bit confused with your statement, haha

    shinigamiookamiryuu,

    Yes, or a general way of putting it anyways.

    boatswain,

    Salting and peppering isn’t something you do; it’s something the site does prior to hashing your password and storing the hash.

    Extrasvhx9he,

    Yes you’re correct but what I was referring to was using an extra string of characters to protect against a compromised password manager

    Edit: Here’s a link to bitwarden’s website that further clarifies what I meant

    vzq,

    Passwords, as in user chosen secrets used to prove identity, are a really bad idea in general. Turns out, people are crappy at coming up with stuff that is hard to guess. They are also crappy at remembering things that are hard to guess. That’s why every website these days wants to SMS you a code or makes you use an Authenticator.

    Thankfully people are catching on, and secure passwordless sign in is gaining ground rapidly.

    shinigamiookamiryuu,

    I’m surprised no place uses IP addresses anymore to authenticate (I was around when Postopia did or whatever that candy themed game place was). Many IP-ban when it comes to identifying rulebreakers, you’d think they’d IP-authenticate too.

    vzq,

    All major services do risk based authentication these days. I’m fairly certain network address factors into the risk calculations.

    ahal,

    Imagine if your roommate could just get into all your accounts?

    shinigamiookamiryuu,

    I know that’s untactical, but I mean as long as IP bans are already a thing…

    mackwinston,

    Carrier grade NAT. For instance, on our local mobile phone network, thousands of handsets will have the same public IP address.

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