Jrockwar,

Joke’s on you. I am 5G now and thanks to Bill Gates I can control The Windows with my mind.

BeardedSingleMalt,

No, they just moved on to repeating verbatim every other talking point they're spoonfed. Hunter's laptop, "it'll be gone after the election", Hillary's emails, election hoax

WashedOver,
@WashedOver@lemmy.ca avatar

And the email BS that transpired after “Hilary’s emails” was much worse than what they were crying about in that election. It was a great way to take the eye off the ball.

frokie,

In their minds they weren’t wrong they just succeeded in stopping it

Agent641,

IKR? credits where its due! Thanks, crazy man with the hastily scrawled anti-mask placard

NathanielThomas,

“Your welcome. Now we gots to get rid of the trans people.” - them, probably

_bug0ut,
@_bug0ut@lemmy.world avatar

I assume the accepted copout is something along the lines of, “You can thank us for making enough noise that they backed down. Sheepdogs, sheep, blah blah something something…”

vivadanang,

“any moment now anyone who got the vax is gonna flop over and start foaming at the mouth, I heard it on the My Pillow Guy show.”

I can’t decide which is more depressing, people stupid enough to believe the shit, or the absurd lack of credibility their sources provide - fucking rubes and idiotic liars deserve each other I guess.

Polar,

If the government wanted to kill people, they’d kill those who refused to comply.

So the thing that would make more sense, is that the COVID vaccine was an antidote, and the government was going to release a toxic gas to kill everyone who didn’t take it.

But nah, their argument is that the government is killing those who comply. Ya, because that makes sense.

Lianodel,

That’s one of the things that bugs me about conspiracy theories. So many of them don’t even have a point.

How can so many be people be so wrapped up in conspiracism, but never once have the though, “Oh, wait, why would anyone do this? It’d be pointless.”

kraftpudding,

That’s what gets me about flat earthers. The “best” explanation I’ve seen is that it would show the Bible is true and the elites don’t want us to believe in God, but… would it show the Bible is true? Why even start this century long lie in the first place? I don’t think discovering the earth is round is what pushed people into secularism in the first place, and revealing now it was wrong wouldn’t get people into religion?

okiloki,

It’s because people aren’t wired that way. There’s a name for that phenomenon, but I forgot.

The idea behind it is that people make up “reasons” (conspiracy strategies) that fit the event. A big event needs a big reason, they can’t just accept that some things happen due to accidents or just by chance.

That’s why Covid can’t have been natural, it must have escaped from a lab! The government is giving us free vaccines? It can’t be that they just want to get us back to work, there must be a secret plot behind that!

IHaveTwoCows,

Flat Earth is exactly that.Nobody has explained to me why “NASA doesnt want you to know the truth”

AlteredStateBlob,

Someone straight up told me its because the elites only want those they can respect to survive.

It's a wierd form of hating them but desperately wanting their approval. I think they all just have daddy issues that aren't the kinky fun kind.

merc,

‘That’s because the COVID “vaccine” is full of nano-particles that the government can use to control you.’

See, you didn’t take the crazy-thinking far enough.

jwagner7813,

This is my same argument for gun ownership as well. While I’m not against people owning guns, to think that us civilians would survive any decent length of time of the government finally came down on us is laughable.

Misconduct,

When you point out its been a long time, and you’re fine, so they say, “Give it 10 more years” lmao wtf just shut up and crawl back under your rock you science denying turnips

Jay,

And then when you die in 50 years after a long and healthy life: “I told you so!”

DeathWearsANecktie,

Everyone who got the vaccine will eventually die. Checkmate vaxxers!!

IHaveTwoCows,

Nearly every case I heard about the vax killing people was somebody who was 79 and had poor heart health

merc,

Meanwhile virtually every possible (and infrequent) side-effect of the vaccine is also a possible (and frequent) side-effect of COVID.

Like, cardiac issues are possible, very rare side effects of the vaccine. Cardiac issues are common side effects of getting COVID. So, even if you’re really worried about one specific side-effect of the vaccine like pulmonary embolism – guess what, you’re much more likely to have one if you don’t get the vaccine because then you’re much more likely to get it as a COVID side-effect.

Misconduct,

I think I’d survive covid decently but the long covid some people ended up with sounds horrifying. Like the people that have had their sense of taste all fucky for years. I love food too much to take that risk. Also, I’d never forgive myself if I found out I carried it around and potentially gave it to others that might not survive it. A few little shots and a little mask are really nothing compared to potentially killing someone’s memaw. It takes so little effort to just not catch it or spread it around people are ridiculous.

jwagner7813,

No, the way it is currently is any time someone in the news that is seemingly healthy but has a major heart issue (for example Bronny James) they immediately jump and say “IT WAS THE VACCINE!”.

merc,

And, since the vast majority of people have been vaccinated, it follows that the vast majority of people who have heart attacks have been vaccinated.

Go-go base rate fallacy!

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Base_rate_fallacy

BTW, it’s awesome that the graphic for the Base Rate Fallacy is specifically about COVID vaccinations.

NathanielThomas,

They’re still here in Canada and they are still raging like absolute 14th century conquistadors. They still think it’s a giant conspiracy to take their liberties.

In fact, a friend on Facebook just said “notice they never mention the COVID vaccine anymore? Makes you think eh?” They do, Donny. During flu season. It’s endemic, dumbass.

trailing9,

They are projecting. It would be nice if we as a society had enough resources to ask them what really makes them feel bad.

Draedron,

We know what makes them feel bad. It’s the brown people

trailing9,

Is racism the core, and not another layer of projections?

BTW, the meme comes with a brown person.

Lucidlethargy,

It is the core for many of them in the States, but there are plenty that are only casually racist. Those people tend to just vote with their church.

IHaveTwoCows,

More fodder for church abolition

BigNote,

That and the fact that everything about our society shits on working people and tells them that it’s their own fault that they aren’t rich like the college-educated elites who look down on them.

It doesn’t actually make any sense, but I am telling you that this is a huge part of the resentment that Trump was able to tap.

jcit878,

still plenty of cookers in Australia. they are even still protesting that shit that ended checks calendar 2 fucking years ago.

they never admit they were wrong, but you can’t shut those stupid fucks up

merc,

Cookers? What are they cooking?

jcit878,

their minds

Lucidlethargy,

Being a republican means you never have to admit you’re wrong. You just live in a whole other universe where chemtrails turn the frogs gay, and Trump is an innocent, Christ-like patriot.

camelbeard,

What I never understood (not from America), is that one party claims to really care about freedom and less involved government.

Whenever I hear that I think cool, so the freedom to have full autonomy over your body? Legal drugs, abortion, etc. Or the freedom to marry who you want, whatever gender. The freedom to legally end your own life, for example if you are terminally ill.

But usually it’s just large companies shouldn’t pay tax and we want guns, but for everything else fuck freedom.

MrVilliam,

No, you understand completely. The people voting for that party are just brainwashed morons and middle class dipshits with a few stocks who think they’ll become billionaires if only regulations were looser. You understand American politics better than like 80% of Americans.

horsey,

Also while they claim to oppose the government, somehow the military and police don’t count. Plus how most veterans vote for the party that routinely wants to reduce benefits for veterans.

irmoz,

What gets me is the obvious con of it all. They preach anti establishment rhetoric… while being the establishment. They tell people not to trust the government… while in government… and expect people to trust them. And it works.

FLX,

USA is not the center of the world

CosmicCleric,
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

USA is not the center of the world

I’d love to see a full discussion from those who are downloading and uploading that comment, to try to understand the discrepancy between the people voting for and against the comment.

spikespaz,

I upped because I don’t understand the perspective of the downies

CosmicCleric,
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

Like many things about humans, I think it just comes down to perspectives moreso than truths.

Jakeroxs,

I would think people are downvoting because it doesn’t make sense in context, like when was the OP claiming the US was the center of the world?

Jakeroxs,

Is the term Republican used outside the US? I honestly don’t know and Google won’t tell me

FLX,

Not in the same way no

spikespaz,

Dude that’s a generalization and is just not true.

Twelve20two,

While it is a generalization, it accurately covers the majority of Republicans who have been vocal online over the last few years.

spikespaz,

As far as I’m concerned each side has been just as annoying and incorrect as the other. Have you seen some of the stupid and objectively false things people say? It’s not just conservatives.

Twelve20two,

One side wants to advance and protect human rights, and the other side wants to ensure some people never have those rights. While there are boneheads on both sides, the core arguments aren’t same-same-but-different. And there seem to be way more people on the far right who are coal and in greater numbers than there are radical leftists.

NigelFrobisher,

And I don’t get why they hate the King so much either. The monarchy brings lots of tourism money into the country.

Nacktmull,
@Nacktmull@lemmy.world avatar

bUt tHeY oNLy sToPPeD tHe lOckDoWn bCauSE wE tHe aNTiVaXeR pRoTEsTeD fOr fREEdOM!!!

icdmize,

Round 2 coming soon to a face near you!

quadropiss,

I kinda wish we still had to wear masks

Arfman,

Winter time in close quarters where people are sick are the perfect time to wear

kandoh,

The facemask keeps so much heat inside my body, really shows how scarves have been fucking around this whole time.

SpezBroughtMeHere,

No one is stopping you. Go for it!

Player2,

Still ‘had to.’ It’s pretty disgusting to sit in a poorly ventilated classroom with 10 people coughing their lungs out and wiping their snot on the chairs. University by the way.

SLaSZT,
@SLaSZT@kbin.social avatar

Masks only protect other people from your own germs, not really vice versa. If I'm not sick, there's no reason for me to be wearing the mask.

It'd be nice if people showed consideration for public health but it seems like the average person doesn't give a shit and mask-wearing is now (unfortunately) a political statement, which I think disincentivizes wearing one even further for those that don't care.

IHaveTwoCows,

I like how the Japanese have always worn masks any time one of them was sick and it was never a problem for anyone. Fucking Americans are goddamn idiots and always have been. Being the biggest military as your only bragging point is proof of incompetence.

Fedizen,

US gov: Spend 10 trillion dollars on the world’s biggest military operation to prevent retaliatory attacks caused by 3 trillion in oil investments after an attack kills 3k people in NY.

Also US Gov.: Spend 2 trillion to fighting a disease that kills millions of people, give up after 2 years. Most the money actually went to business bailouts.

IHaveTwoCows,

Did you support the Iraq war at the time? Be honest

WoahWoah,

Ok boomer lol

IHaveTwoCows,

Gen X. We were stuck having to try to teach those idiots how a mouse works

Jakeroxs,

Interesting question, I know I was like 7-8 when we invaded Iraq, living in the south and definitely propagandized (I remember they played “Proud to be an American” in the cafeteria for weeks after 9/11)

I didn’t know any better, afraid of/hated Muslims and remember asking a teacher why we didn’t just nuke all of the Middle East 🤦‍♂️

I don’t remember getting a rebuke at all.

Now I see how we were all played by the propaganda machine

IHaveTwoCows,

Yes, exactly. The same people who are doing the antivax/antimask propaganda were the same ones who masturbated furiously to Toby Keith songs and called all of us who said “BAD IDEA!!!” traitors, America-haters, and every other slur under the sun. Never once have they apologized to Dixie Chicks even twenty years later having finally recognized the war for the sham it was. Still, those who hate the COVID response will still get mad as hell if you suggest cutting the “defense” budget. None of these people care about the money or the debts incurred or the astronomically high interest bill; their only concern is “will we be able to kill or punish someone?” regardless of the necessity.

merc,

Masks only protect other people from your own germs

They offer some protection to you too.

Rambi,

Yeah I’m pretty sure fffp3/N95 masks should leave you almost completely protected in normal circumstances, outside of working in a hospital or whatever.

merc,

If worn properly, which is actually pretty hard to do. Getting a proper seal on them is pretty uncomfortable, at least for me.

quadropiss,

I mean I do when I can? I look pretty in a mask

NigelFrobisher,

GEDDOVERHERE!

Blackmist,

I’ve seen Facebook nutters screaming about 20mph limits in residential neighbourhoods.

Apparently this is a Chinese scheme called “20 minute neighbourhoods” to prevent anyone travelling outside their hometown. I’m not entirely sure of the fucking mental gymnastics required for those leaps of logic. I decided not to argue, because nobody wins pigeon chess, and also she was kind of hot.

isVeryLoud,

It’s not like Canada hasn’t had 30 km/h school zone speed limits forever. They’re completely deranged, you did good not arguing.

HikingVet,

The concept of 15 minute cities is just urban planning being used as the boogeyman.

phoenixz,

And that basically is what we have in the Netherlands and it’s awesome. Literally everyone raves about how nice it is when they see it but they hate evil government 15 minute cities

merc,

It’s amazing to me how that happened. It almost feels like it’s part of some one-upmanship campaign for different propagandists.

One says “Ok, I’m going to take a boring, UN plan about sustainable development called ‘Agenda 21’ and make people think it’s some evil conspiracy, despite the full text being available online.”

The other says: “Nicely done, but you think that’s good, I can make people hate the concept of pleasant, walkable cities!”

HikingVet,

Yeah, I don’t think it’s about one upmanship, that would be almost forward thinking.

I just think it’s the old boring people don’t want to change.

IHaveTwoCows,

Dont put your dick in crazy

sin_free_for_00_days,

Bad advice. Crazy can fuck like no other. Just don’t do it at your place, and use a nickname.

IHaveTwoCows,

Fairpoint, I stand corrected. I guess using my real name and address was my mistake

Loid,

The problem of doing it at your place is that they’ll learn your address.

paddirn,

They’ll just claim that it was because of their efforts that they prevented the Islamic takeover of the US through mask mandates, when really it was all because Trump didn’t want his makeup rubbing off on his mask. One man’s vanity and the whole nation suffers.

Glide,

This.

You’re grossly underestimating these people if you think they ashamedly disappeared. They’re just convinced they won a small victory.

ProvokedGamer,
@ProvokedGamer@lemmy.ca avatar

Especially since there are people in places of the world that would kill for a vaccine

forgetmangos,

Like Africa where the overall population wasn’t able to get it and yet had a significantly lower mortality rate than the rest of the world? 🤔

CptOblivius,

70% of Africans are under 30. Age was one of the highest risk factors for COVID.🤔

forgetmangos,

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  • Mr_Dr_Oink,

    Give it a rest. You have already made it clear at this point that you are impervious to evidence. Just go home mate.

    forgetmangos,

    Maybe I need a few more “vaccines” that don’t prevent contraction or spread of a respiratory virus

    OCATMBBL,

    Oh shit, it’s almost like a lot of other vaccines, like the flu vaccine. You’ve uncovered a big government secret! The Immuminati will be by to give you a gold star tonight.

    Donkter,

    But they do mitigate rates of hospitalization and death. Pretty good tradeoff for something that’s free and doesn’t affect me otherwise. Kinda value.

    Mr_Dr_Oink,

    Tell me, would you rather catch a virus that can harm/permanently harm/kill you with or without a vaccine that can prevent it from doing that?

    Or to put in another way, would you rather run in front of a firing squad with or withoir body armour?

    Would you rather be in the rain with or wothout a coat/umbrella?

    You moron.

    CosmicCleric,
    @CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

    Thankfully we are vaccinating newborns now.

    The minimum age is six months.

    EvolvedTurtle,

    Damn lemmy is harsh on misinformation

    Tbh tho I’m down for it

    CosmicCleric,
    @CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

    Truth, above all.

    chocobo13z,

    I wonder if that’s because there’s a high rate of overall mortality, i.e. they’re only living past 30 sometimes?

    merc,

    It’s because of a drop in child mortality which hasn’t yet been matched by a drop in the fertility rate:

    newsecuritybeat.org/…/nigerias-demographic-moment…

    fred.stlouisfed.org/series/SPDYNIMRTINNGA

    coffeeaddict,

    To layman’s terms, people used to make 5 children and 3 of them would die. Then this mortality has dropped. People still make 5 children. The country has too much children. The country is really young and very few per capita are susceptible to covid.

    The opposite happens in Western countries. Old people don’t die. People don’t make children anymore. Population is really old, covid really affects a lot of people per capita.

    chocobo13z,

    Makes sense. Thanks for the info!

    IHaveTwoCows,

    FOUND ONE!!!

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