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irmoz,

If you wanna be pedantic, it’s chiptune. You use trackers to make chiptune. And scene music is a niche within a niche.

irmoz,

Only much later did “chiptune” become a catch-all for all old computer music

It’s much later now m8

irmoz,

Chiptune only “specifically” means music produced the same way as retro games, which necessitates a tracker. If they’re using a standard DAW, then it’s basically “cheating” lmao.

irmoz,

Trackers are direct replications of the software used to make retro game music.

irmoz,

Haha how weird and quirky! A game from 2013? No one’s ever played those before! You must be so special and unique! But not as special and unique as me, playing games from the 80s! Oh wait. There’s nothing special and unique about any of this.

irmoz,

But I AM! Enjoy things! Just don’t expect to be called special because you do.

irmoz,

They’re presenting themselves as something “different” from other gamers… How is that not presenting yourself as unique and special? It gives “I’m not like other girls” energy.

irmoz,

Exactly! You never see someone saying “haha, watching a 50 year old film, oh crazy me!” when watching Star Wars.

irmoz,

“Im not as impressive as I first look”

It’s not impressive either way, so why are they bringing status into it whatsoever? Older games are not “less impressive” to play, and that mindset should not exist in the first place.

irmoz,

Encouraging people to be themselves and not determine their worth based on the age of the games they play? Yes. People are more than this. It’s sad as hell to put yourself down just because the game is old.

irmoz,

Dude, this joke is both old and inaccurate.

irmoz,

Not when they are terminally ill, elderly and on a pension.

Not… what?

Other people are allowed to have illnesses and conditions

Ok?

one person with an illness is not an excuse to take advantage of the vulnerable.

Then… stop letting them take advantage of you?

irmoz,

You changed your tune pretty fucking quick. What happened to his terminal illness being used as an excuse?

irmoz,

I don’t understand the request

slides closer

irmoz,

You have more understanding of this situation than the brainless executives demanding that the survey be included.

irmoz,

Still more focused on results than profits tho, and more accountable

irmoz,

some of those 30% choose to not own a house

[citation needed]

And even if true, what do you think is driving that decision? Decisions aren’t made in a vacuum. I posit - it’s the financial burden.

irmoz,

there’s always a significant additional bureaucratic cost when selling a house and buying another one.

This really only affects landlords and estate agents. Most people looking for a home are looking for a place to stay for life, and any “bureaucratic cost”, if you’re purely talking about red tape, form-filling, phone calls etc, is more than worth it for a lifetime home. Again, citation needed. If you’re talking about a literal monetary cost… whoa, look at that - capitalism!

renting has at least a single clear benefit beyond just being able to afford it: greater flexibility

“Flexibility” is a daft measure, only useful for people who plan to move often, which, again, is not common, except in the case of people needing to move often for work, which - hey, it’s capitalism again!

Also, the financial risk is almost zero when you rent.

“Almost” is doing a lot of work in this sentence. The risk of being made homeless by your landlord for petty reasons is a pretty clear risk. Having your rent hiked is a financial risk. Having to bite the bullet and choose an expensive place to rent because it’s the only one reasonably close to work is a financial risk. Being under someone’s thumb to provide them income is itself an inherent financial risk.

And by the way - what do you think causes the financial risk of home ownership, since you’re so intent on proving my point for me?

irmoz,

Try and think a little more deeply. An accident in itself is not a financial risk. Even flooding isn’t inherently a financial risk. Do you know what is?

Also, “market changes” is a part of what I’m pointing at ;)

It’s capitalism!

irmoz, (edited )

fosforus uses deflection!

It’s not very effective!

Answer me instead of making bad jokes, coward.

By the way - are you unaware of the incredible self own inherent in this? In your attempt to “recommend” a book for more information on these issues, you recommend “basic economics”. Well…

https://i.imgflip.com/894jl5.jpg

irmoz,

The very first thing they said was “what history? What economics?” - so yeah, they’ve asked for information.

irmoz,

Dude. It was entirely a deflection. Answer my fucking comment. I have literally no need whatsoever to respect your “recommendation”. It was an attempt to avoid answering my statements and nothing more than that. So go ahead, answer. Or are you too scared?

Also, I have Cowbee’s statements to lean on, which you yourself conceded to, to know what the book is like.

irmoz,

Still not an answer. You can say all you like, but until you answer you are only continuing to deflect.

irmoz,
irmoz, (edited )

That is a hypothetical about outside observation, with no look inside. Programmers and engineers do get to see inside, and they know exactly how a computer works.

There is absolutely no opportunity for a processor to learn a single thing from any of the data it shuffles. It only ever sees its binary representation - it could “read” Hamlet 1,000,000,000,000 times and not “know” who wrote it, since it never at any point saw the words.

irmoz,

This is gobbledygook. They don’t know which processes they fire and when, but they know exactly which processes they have. None of them are processes to actually interpret language - only processes to reproduce representations of language. And even if they could coherently interpret language, that still is a long way off from consciousness.

Generative AI is still using the same software and hardware as Microsoft Word. Don’t mistake fantasy for reality.

irmoz,

Is English not your first language? This isn’t unclear at all.

irmoz,

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Humans work with language itself: letters, words, speech. Computers work with binary representations of language: just 0s and 1s.

irmoz,

Firstly, written language can be represented in binary without any loss of information.

It’s still not language, though. It’s just binary.

Secondly, audio of spoken language can be represented in binary with so little loss it’s indistinguishable to humans.

Still not language.

written and spoken language are also just representations.

Of what? What does this need to be translated to for humans to understand it?

irmoz,

You’re making a stretch here. Language is not a representation - it is the thing being communicated. If you really want to get down to it, there’s some debate as to whether we communicate the exact same thing - qualia being what it is - but there is nothing shared beneath language for it to be a representation of (partly because of qualia, in fact).

This “different representation” is not an actual layer of meaning - it is just the mere act of recognising the language.

irmoz, (edited )

Abso-fucking-lutely, this, all the way.

People aren’t “work-a-holics.” They ain’t there because it’s their dream. They’re there because they need absurd amounts of money to survive in this neoliberal capitalist dystopia.

Those that say they rise and grind and love it are faking it til they make it. They’ll never make it, and will fake it to the grave.

irmoz,

Is this a reference I’m not american enough to understand? Why would throwing a cake at some US politician have any effect on world peace?

irmoz,

Nowhere near equally. “Halloween music” is much rarer, and doesn’t get blasted in shops and on the radio 24/7 for a month. “Halloween films” are also barely a thing, and horror films don’t count.

irmoz,

All these people complaining about the strictness of labels clearly didn’t read the bar at the bottom.

Labels are not boxes, they’re communication tools that can evolve over time.

In other words - they’re not rules, they’re guidelines!

irmoz, (edited )

These do not contradict whatsoever. The words can have precise meanings without people precisely defining themselves by them. Sheer pedantry. Also, the ending statement does not say the words “mean whatever you want”. That’s just you lying.

irmoz, (edited )

That’s not quite true, though, is it? The idea that one gender is better than the other is kinda the problem you’re fighting against, isn’t it? Flipping it around doesn’t solve the issue, it just inverts it.

That being said, I do think groups of women are better at cooperating than groups of men. Groups of men tend to try to one-up each other and compete, rather than cooperate.

irmoz,

You are such an absolute hypocrite. If you’re really a feminist, you’re doing a piss-poor job at it.

Don’t accuse someone of bad faith when you’re here pretending there are no implications behind the term dickhead.

irmoz,

Do you often accuse women of being dickheads who are part of misogyny?

Just gonna say - they seem insufferable, so they probably do. But also, women can certainly be part of misogyny. That doesn’t mean you aren’t right, though, about them assuming by default you’re a man.

irmoz,

Don’t play dumb. You’re challenging patriarchy (or at least putting on the airs of someone who does), so by defualt you’re a feminist.

irmoz,

Wtf is wrong with your brain, mate?

Do you really think literally everyone on Earth challenges patriarchy? No. Hardly anyone admits it exists. That’s kinda the point of feminism, galaxy brain. Being aware of it and challenging it is pretty much all it takes to be a feminist.

irmoz,

…The fact Andrew Tate exists and is popular is kind of a clue, isn’t it? Barbie tried to address the concept of patriarchy - and to be fair, has been quite successful financially, and a damn good film - but the general public is barely any closer to accepting that women don’t yet have fully equal rights.

irmoz,

This is seen in human society, and is called a Cargo cult

irmoz,

Yeah, fair, just figured it was a relevant term

irmoz,

Rhetorical question haha, I know it’s bullshit. Popups take effort to create, you can’t just accidentally add them.

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