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GarbageShoot, in But first they would need to invent some tape

I’m sure an invisible mouse with an evil, human-level intelligence in its head and a total commitment to do the latter’s bidding would have gone much better than what happened

Evilsandwichman,

And thus the first ‘cranium rat’ was born, except this one can go invisible too.

huf,

the ring isnt conscious though, so i dont know what you mean

GarbageShoot,

Doesn’t the ring sort of connect the subject to Sauron or something? On a Plot level, I thought that was the whole point (thematically, the sheer power is the real reason, of course).

usernamesaredifficul,

the ring definitely has it’s own influence on its subject

chaorace,
@chaorace@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Nope. Sauron isn’t even aware of when someone wears the ring. The ring basically only has a handful of effects:

  1. (Slightly) bends fate to favor Sauron’s interests (e.g.: bouncing in a particularly fateful direction, shining in a particularly noticeable way at a specific moment). This is basically the only thing it can do without an owner.
  2. (Slowly) amplifies the wearer’s worst personality traits (e.g.: greed, powerlust, paranoia, hatred). The ring has enough agency over which traits it brings out to subtly favor Sauron’s interests, though this varies by individual and the extent of exposure.
  3. Grants the owner wraith-like powers such as: invisibility, unnaturally long lifespan, and understanding of black speech.
  4. Grants Sauron (or an equally skilled warlock) immense infuence over the owners of the other rings, including mind reading and partial control.

tl;dr: The ring exists as a tool to control the other wearers and is functionally useless to Sauron when he’s not wearing it. The other properties of the ring basically amount to a contingency plan… though it’s not actually well established just how intentional vs. accidental some of these auxiliary effects were.

Omega_Haxors,

Just a passerby who could give less fucks about the series but I am really into what you’re talking about. Please, tell me more.

chaorace, (edited )
@chaorace@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I’d love to… but unfortunately that’s more-or-less the extent of what Tolkien has ever written about the One Ring. Tolkien was ultimately writing about Sauron (i.e.: the lord of the rings) and the evil miasma besetting Middle Earth which the lord personally embodied. Viewed through that perspective, the ring is merely a storytelling tool for imposing Sauron’s shadow upon our heroes without compromising his dramatic weight as the big bad.

With that being said, the One Ring became foundational in shaping the modern incarnation of what TV Tropes has dubbed the “Artifact of Doom”, though I’m more partial to the OSP classification of “Cursed Artifact” which focuses more on specifically malevolent & varyingly sentient magical artifacts (e.g.: the Monkey’s Paw, the Picture of Dorian Gray, Nightblood, Gonne, SCP-055). One of the curses (heh) of this particular trope is that it’s quite hard to stake the dramatic weight of a full narrative upon them, since they tend to lose their mystique as the audience gets more familiar – this works very well for short stories, though!

The concept of “fate warping” power, on the other hand, has caught on significantly less in western fantasy. This is actually kind of odd by historical standards because we can see similar explorations of the concept in both eastern and western mythology (e.g.: the (Chinese) Red Thread of Fate vs. the (Greek) Thread of Human Fate). It’s actually a bit of an unexplained mystery as to why the theme only fell out of favor in the western traditions!

Weeb that I am, I would be remiss not to mention the intricate mechanical and thematic power of fate in JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure – specifically in the context of Araki’s (fantastically bizzare) commentaries on justice, power, truth, and inequality which take center stage in parts 4-6. One of my favorite stories of all-time is the weighty JoJo Part 5 epilogue – “Sleeping Slaves” – because it makes such an eloquent and powerful statement about the roles of fate & heroic self-determination in the preceding story.

Omega_Haxors,

Thanks for breaking down why I got into it.

neuracnu, in I wonder if anyone has managed to break this record since
@neuracnu@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

We had an Xbox hooked up to a wall mounted TV in our company break room. I used to show up first in the morning and play movies and streams on it for people to breeze by and see throughout the day. I could easily see someone doing this in a game store or gaming cafe.

HubertManne,
@HubertManne@kbin.social avatar

ive put it on for background in the house.

bassomitron,

This is probably the real explanation. I’ve been in several local small businesses where they’re constantly streaming the same TV shows/movies every time I go in there.

EmergMemeHologram,

Yeah LOTR is great because you’d only need to change the movie twice in a full 8 hour shift (for Netflix standard editions)

tacosplease,

My wife puts Harry Potter movies on for background noise. We probably play some of them 100 times per year if not more. We only watch maybe 2% of the time though.

DroneRights,

The hero of those movies is a slaveowner

red,

And?

DroneRights,

Slaveowners are bad, and movies that glorify them are bad. The movies are bad.

red,

You are obnoxious, and your opinion is the stupidest thing I’ve heard all week.

Disliking pure fiction is one thing, but whining about it to random people online is borderline batshit insane. Take your meds.

DroneRights,

Your response to someone not liking a movie on the internet is to accuse them of and shame them for unmedicated mental illness?

red,

You roughly deserve the same amount of respect you give, so an appropriate retort in line with your tone. From one point of view.

DroneRights,

So you think that shaming mental illnesses is an equal amount of respect with supporting the rights of slaves not to have their oppression glorified?

red,

It appears my earlier comments were difficult to understand. I thought I was clear and succinct. Perhaps read them again?

Then again it’s unsurprising that you are asking for a verification, given that you felt it necessary in the first place to inject a retarded complaint about a fictional story to a random comment, in shitpost, on Lemmy.

DroneRights,

I gather from your use of a slur that I was correct in my assessment that you’re ableist and pro-slavery scum.

Mac, in Fuckin project managers

Yeah but they habe an MBA so 🤷‍♂️

Keep pulling on those ropes.

Rudee, in Antidepressants or Tolkien

21/24

I should be ashamed for not knowing all the kings of Gondor

DieguiTux8623,

Some are really challenging, my score was lower…

ech, in It’s Tuesday

It’s Tuesday

How much hobbit weed you been smokin’, mate?

bobs_monkey,

Not gonna lie, I had a twinge of anxiety there for a second

fsxylo, in But first they would need to invent some tape

Was magic ring ever explained on a technical level? I thought all we know is it wants to be with sauron and it makes angels shit themselves.

For all we know putting it on a mouse gives everyone mouse nightmares and make them worship the mouse as mouse king before they take it straight to sauron.

NigelFrobisher,

Do you not have the Official Middle Earth Technical Manual?

Nouveau_Burnswick,

I’ve got the Original Equipment Manufacturer’s factory service manual.

The OEMOMEFSM.

teft, in Toss me
@teft@startrek.website avatar

Please place them gently in the collection chute.

ChillPenguin, in Does it ever end?

My wife fell asleep the first time through. So this is a very real situation for me haha.

some_guy,

Because you need to be sure she’s reacting “correctly”?

imaqtpie,
@imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works avatar

Objection, leading question

synae,
@synae@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I fell asleep the first time, my wife didn’t.

On her side, she was much more of a Tolkien nerd at the time, though I think I’ve surpassed her (an indictment of myself, I assure you).

For my part, I was burned out from classwork and did not experience anything from Moria to Amon Hen. Like, I didn’t even remember that I fell asleep - or rather, waking up. So it wasn’t until I saw it again that I realized I missed Galadriel and a whole lot else. This exacerbates my confusion about what’s in the theatrical/extended, to say the least.

cheesymoonshadow,
@cheesymoonshadow@lemmings.world avatar

My husband and I stood in line to watch each movie twice in the theater when they came out. And we’ve watched it all through on DVD multiple times.

We do have interests and hobbies that don’t jive but LOTR is definitely one we share.

Macaroni_ninja, in Got better
@Macaroni_ninja@lemmy.world avatar

Lemmy needs more quality Monty python memes.

ickplant,
@ickplant@lemmy.world avatar

That would be sweet.

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA,
@HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world avatar

We are the fellowship that says “give me the ring or I’ll stab you”

teft, in A good food guide to middle earth
@teft@startrek.website avatar
DavidGarcia, in Fuckin project managers

orcs should unionize

EmergMemeHologram,

so, we are agreed, should an orc be injured on the job the employer is obligated to have his blood distributed amongst the fellow orcs in order if most seniority, while his work will be distributed by least seniority, unless none are qualified to do it, in which case the union shall create a new posting for all the register to…

DV8,

You should read the Last Ringbearer if you haven’t.

MamboGator, in No excuses
@MamboGator@lemmy.world avatar

They cut the scene where Aragorn tucks the fellowship into bed and kisses all their foreheads, the cowards.

Maalus,

God I read “fucks” and almost got whiplash from recoiling so hard

AllonzeeLV, in The Return of the Repressor

It’s not easy being green.

NaibofTabr,
BilboBargains, in But first they would need to invent some tape

But that mouse would have become more powerful than you could possibly imagine.

Viking_Hippie,

And would sing 🎵 HERE I COME TO SAVE THE DAY! 🎵

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/7725c583-51a6-4965-a073-d412ba45edd4.jpeg

this_1_is_mine,

Mighty mouse. Faster than a bullet and stronger than a locomotive.

GreenMario, in It's called a boom stick
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