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Perhapsjustsniffit, in [discussion] Who thought this was a good idea?

All the old guys here are salivating for these and buying them up so fast. It’s fucked. You’re 70. You drive 20kms an hour under the speed limit and can’t lift over 10lbs. What the fuck do you need this ugly thing for?

CeruleanRuin, in [discussion] Who thought this was a good idea?

Doesn’t look any stupider than all the supercabs out there, kept spotless and without a scratch on their beds by shrivel-dicked truckbros who wear ball caps and wraparound sunglasses regardless of the time or weather.

M0oP0o,
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Yes they all look and are functionally silly.

papertowels, in [discussion] Who thought this was a good idea?

Looked through the comments and was surprised to see nobody brought up the ford maverick - starts at 25k, 40 mpg for the hybrid version.

M0oP0o,
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Comparing apples to apples, since the price of the Ridgeline here is $50k the maverick starts at $34,795 here, and the hybrid starts at $35,295 according to the ford website.

Still a lot better on both price and fuel (if true), but the four doors, huge size (about the same as the ridgeline) and short (4.5 foot) bed still make me sad. If they had a two door long bed version it would be cool though.

papertowels, (edited )

Just to make sure you’re doing a fair comparison, how much is a new Odyssey where you’re at?

I’m seeing the Honda Odyssey you’re comparing things to cost 37k USD new, where the ford maverick starts at 24k new. At less than 2/3 the cost of what you’re comparing to, the maverick seems like damn good value. At that price point you’re comparing it to sedans like the Honda civic or Toyota Camry.

The maverick carries 4 folks with better mileage and can moonlight doing truck things.

M0oP0o,
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$54,096.25 for the Odyssey here, and that is kinda insane.

3TH4Li4, in POV , your secretary bought a new car for her daily commute to the grocery stroad.
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That’s no car. That’s a tank for people with fragile egos.

harry315, in Dubai Metro to have new 30-km Blue Line - News | Khaleej Times

I like the irony. The people earning a non negligible amount of their income through cars get a modern train line to commute

FerNZA, in Dubai Metro to have new 30-km Blue Line - News | Khaleej Times

Part of the 2040 plan. I saw a video on youtube of the planned extension that would be a lot more rail, but I don’t know if that is still coming.

Treczoks, in Because people can't seem to visualize it

Coincidentally it is the same space that is used by bikes. Or does the artist picture them as combat-biking on the pavement?

herrwoland,
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Bikes take much less space and they will go around people, it’s not uncommon for roads to be shared for bikes and pedestrians at the same time. On the other hand you risk getting hit by a car if you walk into the streets, thus the metaphor of falling down a chasm.

Treczoks,

Bikes take much less space and they will go around people,

Well, I seriously doubt that bikes generally go “around” people. For pedestrians in a pedestrian environment, a bike is about as dangerous as a car is for bikes on a road.

you risk getting hit by a car if you walk into the streets

Just like you risk getting run over by a combat-biker in the pavement, the pedestrian zone in the city, or a pedestrian crossing. And don’t tell me those things dont happen - I see them every day.

yA3xAKQMbq,

For pedestrians in a pedestrian environment, a bike is about as dangerous as a car is for bikes on a road.

Numbers, please.

Just like you risk getting run over by a combat-biker in the pavement […] I see them every day.

Numbers, please.

herrwoland,
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I don’t know where you come from (I guess US?) but I live in a city that has a very long bike lane shared with pedestrian sidewalk and I take that road very often, nothing ever happens. Worst case scenario I just ring my bicycle bell and they move aside, which is a plus because I love ringing my bell :)

Treczoks,

I guess US?

Nope. Europe.

Worst case scenario I just ring my bicycle bell and they move aside

That’s what I’m talking about: Bikers complain about cars, but totally ignore their relationship to pedestrians. “I ring my bell and let them hop away”…

herrwoland,
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You qre a very angry person. Absolutely nobody has any issues with what I described 🤷‍♂️

Treczoks,

I’m not angry. I just describe facts that you obviously don’t like.

psud,

When pedestrians occupy the full width of the path, what do you expect me to do but ring my bell to ask for room to pass them?

Treczoks,

Asking for room is OK. But the usual tone is “jump out of the way, or else!”. Just today there was a letter to the editor in the newspaper about reckless bikers in a busy underpass here. Admittedly, this underpass is to narrow for it’s use, but this women regularly observes bikers who speed up down the ramp to the underpass and basically plow through the pedestrian passage at full speed from both directions - and the passage is just 3m/10ft wide.

psud,

That sounds like really bad pathway design, I presume the underpass has a downhill entry and uphill exit, encouraging cyclists to gain speed on entry to make the exit easier

I would complain about that underpass rather than the people using it the obvious way

Treczoks,

Actually, it does not encourage cyclists to speed down there. It is a pedestrian underpass, and the signs say that cyclists must dismount. But cyclists being cyclists, they don’t.

djsaskdja, in The dream 🚲

Is it unattended? Looks like someone is standing right in front of it taking a photo for Twitter.

roo, in The dream 🚲
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It might have a tracker.

ElCanut,

You have to be very brave to keep your 15k bike with an airtag only

roo,
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In Singapore?

Not in Singapore, but I see a lot of people in my area doing this. I’ve always wondered how the unafraid part works when the bike is obviously over $5k.

Annoyed_Crabby,

Where you wanna go after stealing it?

lemann,

Unfortunately wouldn’t deter anyone where I live… addicts will flip that for $20 within an hour, and go get their drug fix, before the owner even has a chance to catch the thief

Even worse are the organized criminals driving around in SUVs looking for high end bicycles, a good few videos of them all over xitter sadly, brazen enough to follow people home and rob them in their driveway

OsrsNeedsF2P,

Yet people complain when Singapore has death penalty for drugs 🤔

Deceptichum,
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Gee almost like there’s a stage between streets filled with addicts and murdering people.

Y’know like decriminalising and rehabilitation.

But I guess valuing life is hard for some people.

essteeyou,

Death penalty for drugs, chewing gum is illegal, porn is illegal, mandatory national service if you’re a (male) citizen… If you keep looking it looks less and less like a good trade.

tocopherol,
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Yeah because that’s horrific? What point are you making?

can,

Death penalty for anything is abhorrent

First,

What country is this, so that I never travel there?

ThePrivacyPolicy,

The first paragraph is just about every city in Canada right now. Can’t even mow our front lawn with the garage open because they run into your garage and snatch it before you can run after them. Although I haven’t heard of quite the extremes of the second paragraph here yet.

calavera,

Probably most major western cities

lemann, in The dream 🚲

Not my kind of bike personally, but damn that looks nice 😍 the matt black one in the back looks hella stealthy too

PochoHipster, in The dream 🚲

Singapore laws play for keeps tho

baldingpudenda,

1 to 2 years for selling gum. 100 to 500 USD for chewing.

Carvex,

Jaywalking? Fuckin life with no parole.

ChicoSuave,

Not looking both ways before crossing a street? Straight to jail.

Assman,
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Not holding the door for an old lady? Public lashing.

MeanEYE,
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Sounds reasonable.

shottymcb,

They’ll chop off your wiener for looking at naked women.

MeanEYE,
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Naah, it’s always women’s fault. Don’t you know that. /s

BradleyUffner,

No, not chewing. POP’n.

He had it com’n. He had it com’n. He only had himself to blame.

Carlo,

I think this is the only comment I’ve ever seen anywhere referencing Chicago. Congratulations! Your prize is the knowledge that my wife and I still occasionally use jazz-hands as code for “that person had it coming.”

FlyingSquid,
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Broadway Chicago reference good. Movie Chicago reference… go listen to the Broadway soundtrack and hear how it’s supposed to sound.

Carlo,

Fair enough. I enjoy musical theater, but that one never grabbed me. So the movie’s my only point of reference, and I wasn’t a big fan. Don’t think it deserved to beat out Gosford Park or Fellowship of the Ring for best picture.

FlyingSquid,
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Honestly, if the only way you know the music is from the movie, I’m not surprised it didn’t grab you.

Gigan, in Chicago Doesn’t Own Its Own Streets
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I heard about this situation a couple years ago and thought it sounded like a terrible deal for Chicago. Turns out it’s even worse than I thought! Hopefully the city can find some way to mitigate the damage caused by it.

ManosTheHandsOfFate,
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I was living in Chicago at the time. Everyone knew it was a terrible deal but Mayor Daley ruled the city with an iron fist and did whatever he wanted.

brawleryukon,
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Mayor Daley ruled the city with an iron fist and did whatever he wanted.

Exactly. Just ask Meigs Field.

intelati,

Story still pisses me off to the day I heard about it.

TL,DR: in the dead of night bulldozers physically tore up portions of runway. Standing 50+ airplanes. FAA approved using taxiway to evacuate

ChonkyOwlbear,

I always appreciated it because it’s probably the only time a politician specifically fucked over the ultra rich for the benefit of the general public.

snooggums, in Chicago Doesn’t Own Its Own Streets
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Yet another example of how terrible privatizing public infrastructure turns out in most cases.

quindraco,

And how terrible cities are. And how terrible First Past the Post is, which is what enabled an incompetent mayor to rule qith impunity.

ChicoSuave,

Cities are fine. Cities built around cars sucks. Cities built around people are phenomenal.

Moneo,

I’m going to optimistically assume that’s what they meant. Our cities fucking blow.

quindraco,

Yes, they do.

Diplomjodler, in The dream 🚲

The secret ingredient is surveillance.

netchami,

We have that over here too

glasgitarrewelt,

That’s why there aren’t any thieves in London. With surveillance you can live the best of lifes, free and save. /s

MindSkipperBro12, in The dream 🚲

All you need is to completely disregard human rights and Singapore is pretty decent.

netchami,

The same goes for the UAE or Saudi Arabia

corus_kt,

I live in Singapore; this comparision is deranged. The worst you could say for SG are draconian drug laws, we aren’t upholding slavery and slaughtering journalists/opposition parties in broad daylight. This is like equating Taiwan to Palestine or South Korea to North Korea for fuck sake

can,

The hardest of drugs: chewing gum

AdamEatsAss,

It’s like gateway drug of crimes. JK, It all goes back to litering, gum has lots of wrappers and the inedible gum itself. No gum helps build the SG culture of zero tolerance for crimes. If you teach children even the smallest of crimes have serious repercussions they will be less likely to commit future crimes. At least that’s the idea, it’s easier in a rich country where people have their basic needs fulfilled.

can,

Sounds like it would teach them to fear and blindly trust authority. Which I’m sure sounds fine to them.

STUPIDVIPGUY,

That’s definitely one way of viewing it. I’m definitely anti-authoritarian, but the city-state has the right to agree upon a strict set of rules and standards of behavior and to hold people accountable to uphold peace and order. It’s a trade-off for a life in a much more stable country compared to the US where there is always a risk of people infringing on public peace. Ranging from simple things like littering, obnoxiously loud music in public, to something more dramatic like robbery, or even getting caught in a mass shooting because some depressed guy in his early 20s bought a gun from walmart. Say what you will about their government structure but none of these things mentioned are an issue in Singapore.

can,

The states are a pretty low bar

STUPIDVIPGUY,

They are drastically different places, that’s why I compared them

can,

I guess, but I’m quite happy to not be living in either.

shottymcb,

You can swallow gum. Not sure why that myth exists. It’ll pass whole and come out with the rest of your shit.

Obi,
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But why.

AdamEatsAss,

You can swallow a marble too, that doesn’t make it edible.

can,

If you swallow the occasional one it’s fine but probably not if you make a habit out of it.

vivadanang,

for the most part I agree, and I grok SG’s laws on free speech as a concession to too many religious folks bottled up in too small an area. ok.

but.

Death for marijuana? REALLY? Like… DEATH?

That’s where it goes off the rails for me. deport somebody, put 'em in jail for a few years, sure, have your rules…

and fuck, cocaine? opium? heroin etc? I guess if you really need to but the mary jane? naw man… just… naw.

fan of the country, been for business, love the food, but won’t visit for personal travel because of this.

corus_kt,

I agree with you - hell, we fucked over our best athlete (Joseph Schooling) just for partaking overseas - nobody gets a pass.

Cringe2793,

He’s not even “our” athlete. He was trained and brought up overseas. Just happened to be Singaporean by birth.

Annoyed_Crabby,

Other than the gross attitude toward people from weaker country and their treament of maid as if they’re dog, what other human right issue they have?

MindSkipperBro12,

They love executing people and long prison sentences like it’s medieval era.

vivadanang,

marijuana? DEATH

Annoyed_Crabby,

Well i blame the US for influence this part of the world with their war on drug campaign, and the fear of drug is the direct result of opium war. It’s not even that long ago that US started to legalise recreational use of marijuana, it’s kinda condescending to it in such simple way.

At least there’s been multiple talk by the government of Malaysia (where i’m from) to decriminalise drug, not sure about Singapore.

vivadanang,

US foreign and domestic policy certainly deserves a share of the blame. And we don’t even have universal legal access here, it’s a shit show.

Annoyed_Crabby,

Yeah. The issue with Singapore is they have extremely strong ruling party and nepotism run strong, so the old perspective will take some time to ease out. If there’s more and more evidence piling up on medical use i’m sure they will move to decriminalise.

The only country to have legal recreational marijuana in South East Asia is Thailand, though they’re about to pull back the decision.

vivadanang,

dang, that’s a shame for Thailand - new junta, new rules I guess.

Annoyed_Crabby,

Well they aren’t junta, they legitimately won an election. I think you’re confused Thailand with Myanmar lol

vivadanang,

everyone’s a junta. we’ve got the dem junta and conservative junta’s over here vying for power. don’t take it personally.

MindSkipperBro12,

I thought it was mostly with the British and forcing Opium on the Chinese.

Annoyed_Crabby,

Yes, but the story and fear never left the community, it passed on for generations and spread across the south east asia.

WhiteHawk,

well, that *technically *doesn’t violate any human rights, i guess

DragonTypeWyvern,

If you don’t consider living a human right

WhiteHawk,

Not sure it’s that simple, since liberty is also a human right, so punishing crimes with prison would also violate human rights if you follow that line of thinking

SlikPikker,

Mostly it does since most “crimes” and nonsense

WhiteHawk,

A few? Sure. Most? Definitely not.

Cringe2793,

“other than abusing people from other countries, what other issue do they have”

Annoyed_Crabby,

Hey that’s antisemite.

TimewornTraveler,

I love that I can feel your vernacular in your writing. please never change. /gen

loutr,
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