I’m not really sure what to say about Nothing as a company, after two generations of devices so far.
The price isn’t right, the quality isn’t really there, the entire back panel is a massive gimmick, and even the 2 is still missing features, which I won’t buy a phone in 2023 without.
What’s worse, is that they’re trying to stand out quickly by offering potentially groundbreaking things, while in reality they’re built on something fundamentally broken, like Sunbird.
In the case of the Nothing 2, specifically, the lack of a high IP rating is a huge dealbreaker. The latter will be personal preference, but I did not like the camera performance. That can be improved with software upgrades, but when we spend this much money on a device, I just don’t want to drop money on a promise of something
I believe the ip rating they are referring to has to do with the level of waterproofing in the phone. Like how the iPhone has an IP68 meaning that it is water resistant up to 6 meters for 30 minutes in fresh water.
In this case it’s “Ingress Protection” rating - as in how well it prevents water and dust from getting inside the phone when exposed.
Edit: since I’m on hold and bored, here’s the Bard description of the rating system
The Ingress Protection (IP) rating system is a two-digit code that tells you how well an enclosure is protected against dust and water. Here’s a quick breakdown:
First digit: This is for solid objects, like dust, fingers, or tools. It goes from 0 (no protection) to 6 (dust-tight).
Second digit: This is for water, like splashes, rain, or immersion. It goes from 0 (no protection) to 9 (protected against high-pressure water jets).
So, an IP67 rating means the device is dust-tight and can withstand being submerged in water for a short time.
Here are some real-world examples:
IP44: Splashproof phone, suitable for light rain or spills.
IP65: Dustproof camera, good for outdoor use but not submersion.
IPX7: Waterproof smartwatch, can survive a dunk in the pool.
IP68: Rugged phone, can handle being underwater for extended periods.
Remember, IP ratings are just guidelines. Always check the manufacturer’s instructions for specific usage advice.
Do you own one? i bought the phone 1 to use as a work phone and its been pretty stellar tbh. Not something to use as a daily, I’d prefer a flagship for that but the phone has been really good to me
The phone is great for someone who wants a phone that still feels premium while being willing to sacrifice some of the frills like a slightly better camera, higher water resistance, etc
If they do that, they can be sued. That’s the point of an enforceable license. It’s not just an honor thing, or you could be sure Microsoft wouldn’t abide by it.
An import ban for not respecting the laws of the country you’re trying to import to sounds reasonable. Look at all the Chinese variants of games, it’s only fair to have some give and take.
Nothing Technology Limited (stylised as NOTHING) is a British consumer electronics manufacturer based in London. It was founded by Carl Pei, the co-founder of the Chinese smartphone maker OnePlus. Investors in the company include iPod inventor Tony Fadell, Twitch co-founder Kevin Lin, Reddit CEO Steve Huffman, and YouTuber Casey Neistat.
Lol, are you joking? I’ve been 50W wirelessly charging my phone for YEARS. One of my current phones does 67W wireless charging and 120W wired charging. The other does 50W wireless and 67W wired but that’s a limitation based on other design features, this is like the bottom spec acceptable now…
The only people excited for 10 year old technology are Apple fanbois that don’t understand the world has left them behind.
Almost all the phones not destined for the boring American market. Most Xiaomi, Huawei, and Oppo phones as an example.
Xiaomi has demonstrated 200W wired charging (20V @ 10A) and 120W wireless charging which is really 134W wireless charging capable as dual 67W into a 2 cell battery charged independently.
It’s amazing and I can’t understand life with a 10W charger like apple people or “fast” 15W charging… I can plug in my big foldy phone after draining it on a long flight and get 50% added in 10 minutes. My smaller phone, 100% from dead in less than 15mins. And the batteries still last years. My MI 9 and 11 are still kicking. Those are 3 and 5 years old and abused daily with 100% charging at max wattage.
I’ve looked at a couple Oppo phones, can’t remember why I didn’t switch to them. Possibly because GSM, and I’ve had bad experiences with GSM in the US.
For phones available in the US, the Pixel 8 and Pixel 8 Pro do 18W and 23W wireless charging respectively when using the Pixel Stand 2. I don’t really see why you would want to do more when wireless charging is so inefficient and thus generates so much heat. Every high powered wireless charger needs fans to keep both the charger and phone cool enough during charging. Even wired charging can start making a phone heat up quickly above 20W, though PPS chargers that can vary the voltage on the fly have helped improve that situation a lot.
Most of the features already exist in extended Qi 1.5 standards. These are not new features, they are a consolidation.
And just so we’re clear, I’ve designed in and designed for Qi specs. I’m very familiar with the landscape. It’s a marketing nothingburger to appease idiots that don’t understand what already exists. You aren’t going to get actual new tech in this release or the next (which is already almost finalized just not public).
I’ll be honest, having had something like that in the past and having had it for a kindle… I still don’t get the point.
It’s… “neat”. Neat is how I would describe it. All "ooooh"and “aaaaah”. And then you forget about it 5 days later and it would matter fuck all if I had it at that point or not, my brain never actively differentiates the minute detail of engaging charging any more.
Of course that doesn’t make it a bad thing either. I just don’t get the hype, basically. I suspect it’s good if you inherently need the part where it’s held still, like in a car mount?
I just plug a cable in, tbh. Or have a stand the phone sits on, which automatically aligns it with the charging circutry, too.
That’s wht I mean. It’s neat. It solves the problem of needing a specific stand for a specific phone to ensure alignment. Of course in an age of 3D printing, a 3D-printed stand that aligns the USB-C cable actually works exactly as quick when putting the phone down, so eh. So yeah. Neat. But is it in any way transformative? No, not at all. In fact a day after I no longer notice it existing. Which speaks to good technology, sure, but also means I struggle a bit to understand why people make a bit deal out of:
I didn’t either until USB C became standard on phones. I’ve had 3 USB C port failures in 3 years. Wireless charging has saved one phone so far. The others I just replaced.
The other use-case is the car, it’s nice to be able to get in and set the phone on the magnetic mount and have it charge without connecting a cable. Makes getting out simpler too. Just grab the phone and go.
Never had a USB port fail, no. And to be fair, lack of easy repairability is a separate and much bigger problem. On the FP4 I have, I doubt a broken charging port is a big problem, considering how easy the camera was to replace.
Also, do you keep sand in your pocket? Like, just how?
I have a phone that is almost 4 years old and had USB-C only laptops since 2014. Not once did I have a problem with dust or let alone any kind of failure of an USB-C port. This is just absurd.
Wouldn’t say it’s impossible. I’ve done it pretty often at work (tech support) and at home with sim eject tools, pointy tweezers, knitting needles etc. 5 minutes of patience and the port is like new. Just need to avoid the centre where the contacts are.
I’ve been using USB-C on all my phones and most laptops since 2015. One of the phones I used for 4 years and plugged in multiple times per day, and I’ve never had a USB-C port fail.
I really like the idea, but I have no use for it. AFAIU wireless charging is pretty inefficient, and I’m happy to plug my phone in. I don’t need to mount my phone anywhere. I don’t want to stick a wallet on the back of my phone. I don’t want a pop socket.
Again, the idea seems neat, it just isn’t part of any of my use cases.
Not OP, but I’m using a Pixel 7 Pro with this phone charger in my car. My wife doesn’t have wireless charging through her phone, so she just added a magnetic ring to hold the phone and charge it over USB-C. The magnetic field is quite strong, I don’t have the feeling it will fall by accident.
If I could get Android Auto (out whatever it’s called) to attach to my head unit wirelessly, I’d get one of these in a second. But I still need to plug my phone in for directions.
I have a Magsafe compatible Rokform case for my S23U. It works great except that Samsung only allows 15w charging for Samsung chargers, so I can only charge at 10w. All the same, I have a plug in my USB port and only charge wirelessly.
If you think you hate 2 minute long voice records in text chat, get ready for 2 minute long texting on voice calls. I understand this is more for accessibility to people with speech impairments but at that point why call instead of texting anyways?
Not exactly (I don’t think). You could choose pre-written responses, but only after the initial spiel about the screening and eventually you’d have to either hang up or answer the call. This is more like you can just pick up the call and text whatever.
I can picture a future where people don’t bother with that. Similar to how we slowly abandoned landlines to go 100% mobile, I can imagine people going to data-only plans.
I’m about to get a phone for my kid starting high school next year, and frankly, I can see already see a case for just getting him a data plan.
I tried it out during the initial drama and was astonished to see it still missing such a basic accessibility feature. Their app lead said it would be looked into… But it seems like such a wild omission.
I use it every once in a while when I do a presentation in Teams at work and I need one webcam to show my mush, and another to demonstrate whatever device I’m presenting: I use the cellphone to capture close-ups of the device and focus on features people ask me to show, scrcpy sends the camera capture to a v4l2 device, and Teams uses the v4l2 device as a regular video source.
Create a work profile managed by Shelter. then install the sketchy Microsoft app - along with all the other sketchy apps you don’t trust - in the work profile where they won’t have access to any of your important data or contacts, won’t have any permission you don’t want to give them, and where you can freeze them and neuter them completely when they’re not in use.
Here’s a good howto for Shelter and work profiles. Work profiles are great: they’re just as good as separate accounts to keep unstrustworthy apps from accessing data you don’t want them to get at and putting you under surveillance, but they’re a lot more flexible than separate accounts.
Work profiles are a standard Android feature that everybody who cares about privacy should use.
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