You’re right, there wasn’t. I didn’t read the article at first since I thought the title was clickbait, but it seems like they’re actually saying the ratings were lower than any debate in 2015 or later. They just phrased it in a confusing way.
To the most of the world, they are “mentally ill psychopaths”, but to their rabid supporters, they can do no wrong. They will still watch them, cheer them on, and support them and vote for them…
That’s the thing, though. They don’t actually have rabid supporters. Trump does, and they want his supporters to support them.
That’s why no one is interested in watching their debates. The people who actually care about debates aren’t interested in their nonsense, and the ones whose vote they are courting are just waiting for Trump to give them the Go signal.
Yup I've looked at conservative spaces online and it's all still Trump Trump Trump! I was honestly pretty surprised that they don't want to try anyone else considering how much everyone else hates Trump but that's just how out of touch they are I guess.
I was honestly pretty surprised that they don’t want to try anyone else considering how much everyone else hates Trump
In their eyes, that’s one of his best features. The Republican party’s singular common goal these days is to be as contrarian as possible, and the angrier everyone else is with them, the better they figure they’re doing.
It showed that America, if it is going to keep its greatness, is in desperate need of new politicians or a new generation of politicians. All these people on the debate stage have no clue how hard it is out there right now or what people stree going through. Desperate people need help, solutions, and answers. These debaters/ Republicans aren’t it.
Nobody wants to watch a bunch of losers kiss the ass of an elephant who isn’t even in the room (honorable mention to C. Christie who clearly does not kiss Trump’s ass)
Chris Christie. Maybe the least smelly turd in the group. He still smells like shit and now the question is whether he’s only trying to separate himself from the others while still planning to deliver the exact same steaming mess any of them would. Is he hedging his bet that trump is falling to the charges?
Christie was a spoiler candidate in the 2016 election for Trump. I don’t know what his angle is right now, but he’s a Trump ass kisser for sure and his strong statement nonsense is some kind of game.
It also represents — by a significant margin — the lowest TV audience for any Republican presidential debate since the start of the 2016 cycle, when Trump first became a candidate.
But that’s the thing, even if they’re the VP on ticket, all they’re going to do is sink the ticket further. Voting for any of these buffoons, whether it be locally, nationally, VP or president, is just asinine. They’re all condescending as fuck and they all think we’re too stupid to realize how much they suck. It’s weird, but I miss the days of Bob Dole and McCain.
Except we all know Trump will pick his VP during an Adderall fuelled constipation party on social media. So it could be either of these morons, regardless of their debating performance (I use those words liberally).
I heard someone point out that Trump might want a dynasty and pick Don Jr. That’s probably the most likely option now that I think about it. His son is one person who will be loyal no matter what and and someone who would be even worse than him if he is removed from office.
Oddly enough it’s still not worth it if he’s there. I’ve seen the exact same scene every time I flush after dropping a deuce. Adding an unflushable nugget to the bowl doesn’t change much.
Well, obviously. Look at R polling. Trump is the clear incumbent and he’s not even on it. The clowns on the TV can pretend that they’re holier than him for showing up, but they’re irrelevant. And the D’s don’t give a shit, they’re preparing for the inevitable: running against Trump.
A few years ago, when the D candidate field was packed full to the brim, emulating the hilarious R landscape 4 years before, I thought american politics couldn’t be more of a circus. This Republican field of nobody’s with no chance going through the motions pretending there’s legitimacy in the TV media charade is even worse. At this point it’s not funny, it’s just sad, there’s not even entertainment value in watching it anymore.
You think half the voting population is racist? The fact that he’s on that stage, or Nikki Hailey was elected governor, or the last governor of Louisiana, or the FCC head under Trump exist should tell you how wrong you are. Your team does not own all the brown people.
I don’t think you deserve the down votes. However, the actions of many Republican reps correspond to direct negative impacts on non-white voters. Is that racism? Eh maybe not, Democrats are the favored party in those groups so attacking your opposition means attacking those groups, and it’s politics after all… but let’s explore.
The best recent example of that I can think of is the recent “election reform” measures. These measures have never been proven to be justified once in a courtroom. They typically target heavily urban metro areas and people living an urban life. They do this two ways primarily, first they reduce opportunity for voting by doing things like restricting the number of ballot drop boxes, reducing early voting days, and eliminating mail in voting (which results in congestion that takes folks much longer to get through the polls). The second thing they do is they add restrictions that are much easier to fill in suburban or rural life vs urban life, things like drivers licenses aren’t as common in these areas (because they don’t need to drive).
You can say none of that is racist, but it disproportionately affects non-white voters by targeting a class dominated by non-white voters: poor urbanites.
It’s the same idea behind things like the “Muslim ban”, the text doesn’t say “Muslim” but the effect is “Muslim” (in this particular case Trump said the quiet part out loud because he had before hand said he wanted a Muslim ban).
It would be one thing if there was actual data suggesting that people coming from these “Muslim countries” were well above the normal risk or if there really was voter fraud that held up in court. As it stands today though, that isn’t the case.
It’s a kind of “underhanded” racism that maintains some plausible deniability that invites a fair number of genuine racist into the party that yearn for the old days where white guys ran everything and non-whites were second class citizens that were “separate but equal.” This is why the American Nazi party saw “real potential” with Trump.
The fact that y’all didn’t shut these nonsensical policies down is why a large portion of Democrats (and people internationally) see the Republican party and its voters as acting with a racial bias/racist.
News media use to have a respectability solely by being the people carrying the torch. With every inch of our lives being saturated with what ever digital media we want to consume at any given moment the established news media has run its course. Not even mentioning all its faults and the bullshit it propagates. You had 50 years and we are tired of the show. Please cancel, do not renew.
None of the candidates are compelling or inspirational. At least Biden is good at the job and gets things done. He’s fine and competent. All I see on the Republican side are idiots yelling with no solutions or answers. I don’t even think the Republicans could be that bad if they could just get their shit together and actually try to do something for regular folks. People don’t get elevated with Republicans, they get stepped on.
Watching a bunch of assholes “debate” (read: regurgitate canned talking points on cue) who are only going to lose the primary to a bigger asshole, who is even in the room, is kinda pointless. Especially when said bigger asshole already lost one general election and may well be on track to lose an other one., So, we could either watch losers who are losing to a loser; or, spend our time more productively. Like say, insulting said losers on the internet. Not a hard choice.
While true, it’s also true many states were close individually and, because of how our elections work, the election could have gone differently if about 43,000 votes in strategic places went the other way. I’d call that close.
No need to get white into it, racist is sufficient. Trump has plenty of black and Hispanic supporters. I don’t know if they are all racists, but they are definitively assholes.
Ya, while I was being flippant about it, I do agree that Trump has a very real chance of winning the General Election. I well remember the noise over polling in 2016 and Nate Silver’s epic rant (he was right) about how the data should be looked at.
I’m curious to see how things shake out in the General Election this time around. And I wonder if Biden’s Campaign will lean into Trump’s criminal actions. In 2016, Trump’s campaign pushed the “lock her up!” narrative over Clinton’s email server. Now that we have clear evidence of Trump mishandling, hiding and attempting to hang onto clearly marked classified information (some of which is clearly SCI or NNPI), will we get choruses of “lock him up!”? At the same time, Trumpets seem to revel in Trump’s crimes and prosecution as almost a badge of honor and/or an underdog fighting “the man”. The irony of Trump pretty much being the definition of “the man” seems lost on his supporters. But hey, no one ever said politics has to make sense.
Demagogues always need to project an image of control, power and invincibility, reality be damned. I’d expect more of the same from them, and it’s why it’s important to keep pointing out their failures. By proving how weak and vulnerable they are, it helps to break the narrative they are trying to build. It’s all about perception, facts are less important than belief. But, facts can be useful in shaping belief.
I mean, I didn’t watch it either, but If you are in a state that isn’t purple, maybe you should be registered as a Republican to be part of the primary to pick the best of the worst. My state only has primary by party.
I’m in Virginia, which is pretty purple. That said, we have open primaries, but you are only allowed to vote in one. I have seriously considered voting in the Republican Primary for that reason. Biden is going to win any sort of Democratic Primary; so, not much point voting in the DNC Primary. However, I don’t expect my vote would be impactful at all. Southwest Virginia has Trump’s cock so far down it’s collective throat it stopped being oral and started being anal. Even where I’m at, we have idiots whose yards have been decorated with Trump banners for over 7 years now. If he doesn’t win the GOP Primary in Virginia, I’ll be incredibly surprised.
If I do go out to vote in the GOP Primary, I’d probably have to pick Haley, just for the fun of seeing Republicans lining up behind a woman for a reason other than groping her. Also, I think it would be hilarious to see leftist pundits twist themselves in knots dealing with the GOP having a relatively younger woman and a minority as their candidate versus the old white guy. But, with her currently polling well behind DeSantis and a very, very distant third to Trump, I suspect that has basically zero chance of happening.
Kinda. Early in the 2016 election cycle, Jeb Bush was sort leading the pack. But, by October 2015 (to compare with the current cycle), Trump was pulling ahead in the GOP Primary and held onto the lead for the rest of the Primary. He was helped, a lot, by the large GOP Primary field and lack of a clear front runner. The political environment in 2016 also favored populism and Trump tapped into that very well.
Now, this could all get upended by the various criminal charges Trump faces. While the civil charges he is liable for are interesting, that’s not a real impediment to his campaign. Hell, I wouldn’t be surprised if that ends up helping him, as he will spin it as a politically motivated attack on him by the left. But, should Trump end up behind bars during the run up to the Primary or General election, that’s going to make campaigning a bit harder. It won’t be impossible, and I’m not entirely confident it would prevent him from winning the Primary or the General Election. Though, I would think that the GOP might find a way to replace him on the General Election ballot, were he behind bars.
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