I wonder how many non-nsfw streamers are rejoicing because they no longer have to be paranoid about modded games and nudity. Prior to twitch relaxing rules regarding nudity, you could get banned for a split second of nudity in a modded game, and official nudity/sex scenes in M-rated games were playing with fire (technically allowed, but up to an admin’s discretion if you were trying to “stream porn” or just playing the game as intended). At least I’m assuming these new rules will include further relaxing the game content rules. It wouldn’t make sense to allow full “artistic nudity” if you’re still banning streamers because of a few frames of modded tiddy.
I remember watching a streamer do a nudist run in. CK2 or CK3 (forget which), and they were super nervous about what might show up on screen on accident.
Imo, that’s just ridiculous, so I’m glad they have relaxed the rules a bit. That said, I’m also sad that Twitch is courting so much non-gaming content, they really should just have that under a different brand. Maybe labels will help, but I really don’t want to have to wade through so much non-gaming stuff to find a new streamer to watch.
3; 2 didn’t have body models, only 2D faces (and event artwork, but there was no nudity in that).
3 has full 3D body models, which are used for events, court, and so on, and it’s not unusual to encounter characters (often your own) who prefer to be in the buff, for religious or cultural reasons or due to specific events, traits, or bugs.
The art isn’t suggestive in any way either, yet streamers were still worried about getting strikes because of it. So I’m glad the rule is loosened up a bit for that reason, not as happy about the non-gaming applications though (that should be on a separate sister-site; maybe social.twitch.tv or sexy.twitch.tv).
I can’t wrap my head around this point of view, could you help?
Why is this asking to be regulated just because of kids? They are also on lemmy, reddit, twitter, youtube, etc so why not shut the internet down to shield them from seeing boobs or whatever. Why should this not be on the parents?
It wouldn't be as much as a problem if it was tucked away somewhere in Twitch, but these nudity streams will be broadcast to the front page. Kids can find whatever they want, sure, but that doesn't mean we should be sticking it in their faces when they come to a traditionally non-porn livestreaming platform. If they come to watch some people play games, they are going to be met with tits completely out of the blue. It is an issue, the excuse 'but kids can go watch porn anyway' doesn't cut it, because they weren't even supposed to be looking for porn in this instance.
Do parents just ban them from using Twitch? Or should Twitch have better systems in place to make it harder for kids to stumble across porn?
but these nudity streams will be broadcast to the front page
That is not the case though
Streams that are labeled as including Drugs, Intoxication, or Excessive Tobacco Use; Violent and Graphic Depictions; Gambling; and/or Sexual Themes will no longer be included in homepage recommendations shelves due to the visual nature of those topics.
Oh the irony, up until now it was basically a bannable offense to be caught topless on stream even if you were a dude, now they’re allowing borderline camwhoring (on a website full of children mind you). Really, the only moral or ethics these companies believe in is money.
Other policies that were once prohibited and are now allowed with a label include “fictionalized …fully exposed female-presenting breasts and/or genitals or buttocks regardless of gender,” “body writing on female-presenting breasts and/or buttocks regardless of gender,” and “erotic dances that involve disrobing or disrobing gestures, such as strip teases.”
Doesn’t this pretty clearly allow Vtubers to get as horny as they want? Their avatars are all fictionalized, but that feels like it’s going really far over the line of what Twitch used to be.
I’m kinda surprised there’s no NSFW version of Twitch tbh, I’d imagine it would be the easiest pile of money if they could capitalize on how much porn these Twitch gals are doing as a separate brand or something.
EDIT: Should clarify, I meant an Amazon-owned NSFW Twitch using Twitch branding. I know cam sites exist and also got lucky on Omegle a few times.
Exactly. The twitch thot meta is entirely successful because they don’t have to compete with people posting actual porn, and that they aren’t posting on a porn site such that it’s less likely to be restricted, and gets full publicity
I think it has to do with the fact that some investors, payment providers and banks refuse to associate with anything that could be seen as sex work. That was why even OnlyFans was about to ban sexually explicit content 2 years ago.
Yes, the clearest way would be to launch a separate “Twitch 18+” or smg, offer integration of accounts for users and content creators, and go ahead. But they don’t actually want to do that, they want to blur the line, capitalize on the thirst of the audiance, without fully committing to the idea for PR reasons.
If they’d just actually manage the endless copy spam channels in some categories that make browsing a chore, that would actually be an improvement. And the underage kids that suddenly show up. All they need is a couple of people dedicated to monitoring and banhammering a few particular categories and it would be mostly taken care of.
bottom part: “Streams labeled as including Mature-rated Games and Profanity will not be affected by this update unless the streamer has also selected one of the labels bolded above.”
Add this with AI being used to generate nude photos from images of people and they’re just setting themselves up for a ton of legal ramifications not to mention serious ethical ones.
I’m fine with that, provided they lock it behind a separate paid tier payable only via credit card. That’s the best age gate imo because you have to be 18+ to get a credit card and parents should be tracking their statements anyway.
People looking for that tend to be the ones most likely to throw money at strangers. Oldest profession continues to be the most predictable among its clientele.
It’s hard to do that officially when a big chunk of users are minors. Neither Twitch nor the streamers of this content want to admit that they make money serving softcore porn to kids. Cause that’d be weird.
Can you imagine going back in time and telling your dad while he’s playing on his commodore 64, “In the future sex and video games will go hand in hand.”
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