taladar,

I am on Lemmy (here and a few other instances) but when I get into discussions in comments here I am starting to wonder if I should just quit the whole social media concept altogether. So far I have mostly stayed since I still need to get some news from somewhere but RSS might be a better option in the long run.

PrivateNoob,

How do you perceive the average discussion on Lemmy, if it makes you to leave this site?

MyDearWatson616,

The average discussion is like 8 comments.

socsa,

And 5 of them are just whining about capitalism

droans,

I’ve been called a centrist because I called for socialized healthcare, cheaper education, higher taxes on the rich, and putting the needs of people above the desires of the companies.

Apparently that’s not liberal enough for a lot of users.

kariboka,

Ive been called tankie for the same reason

rufus,

Ehm. I think you should visit other communities then. And skip the instances filled by trolls and those people. I’ve had a different experience here on Lemmy.

1984,
@1984@lemmy.today avatar

You made 38 comments in two months yourself, so… Maybe contribute?

I don’t mean to upset you, but honestly, we get the experience we create here. We can’t be passive and expect others to create interesting content for us.

dmrzl,

Tbf the user you responded to neither complained nor claimed to expect anything from anyone. They simply stated a pretty spot on observation.

1984,
@1984@lemmy.today avatar

Ok sure. But my point is, we really get what we create here. People shouldn’t complain about not much posts or comments if they don’t contribute to them themselves.

rufus,

Idk. Some people have the motto, only speak up if you’re sure you have anything of value to say. I think that’s okay, too. Many people spam their opinion everywhere. Or just write low-quality comments that don’t really contribute. It makes it more content, but mainly more noise. And that’s not necessarily a good thing.

1984,
@1984@lemmy.today avatar

Sure. Memes is one thing I see a lot on Lemmy, and I unsubscribed to some communities because it just took over. To me that’s low quality, but to others it could be the best content ever.

rufus,

Yeah, I’ve heard several people complain about the meme communities. There are a few that post lots of stuff and overshadow the real stuff. If you don’t happen to find out how to do it, I can understand why you’d be annoyed and not join Lemmy.

But I was talking more about low quality content like writing a cheap joke that is very obvious. Or being the 10th person to just agree in slightly different words instead of upvoting the first comment. Or having meaningless arguments. I kinda do all of that. But it’s more a social media thing and wasted time, than something advancing society or my own life.

And some other people just write 5 comments a month in topics they really know something about, and use their spare time to read the remaining Terry Pratchett novels instead.

1984,
@1984@lemmy.today avatar

I do it too… It may be low quality but its kind of like meeting friends - not everything someone says is going to be very interesting but at least it’s socializing…

rufus,

That’s true. And there are a few positive aspects. I like talking to different people across the globe. I wouldn’t know about the struggles of everyday American life or the UK healthcare fuckups if I wasn’t here. And sometimes you get into an argument and get to learn stuff. It’s just still a form of social media. I think you still got to pay attention not to overdo stuff and participate in the conversations that are good for you. It is still easy to waste your time. Albeit not as easy as doomscrolling on Reddit or YouTube.

can,

I’ve gone back and forth on this. I figure as long as there’s a comment they’ll view it and then maybe leave a higher quality one of their own.

ZenkorSoraz,

^This here

can,

I’m doing my part 😔

1984,
@1984@lemmy.today avatar

Indeed :)

PrivateNoob,

I mean that’s fair, but this comes with a low populated community. Hopefully it will change for the better.

taladar,

The average discussion is fine, mostly I don’t like how certain kinds of comments make me want to respond over and over again with certain people while we are going in circle, neither convincing the other.

PrivateNoob,

That’s understandable, but we don’t need to always convince the other one or ourselves. It’s perfectly okay to just get more knowledgable and that’s it.

legenderic,

I’ve been ramping up my RSS feed collection constantly just to see that the majority of trustworthy sites are paywalled by now. I’d love to see some sort of “Netflix for news” (i.e. one subscription, multiple sources) but that’s yet to come, I’m afraid.

Maybe if feedly pro were to implement (ai generated) summaries of my favorite sources, I’d be willing to subscribe there.

Until then, I’ve grown a taste for podcasts. Those are mostly free with large overlap in content I’d have to pay for for if I read it myself. Kinda funny…

intelati,

I’m trying (and mostly(?) failing) to transfer the energy/thought into Arch/Programming (check my instance)

Social media/Doomscrolling is just so utterly easy

ilex,
@ilex@lemmy.world avatar

I log on about one a week. I forgot why I showed up. I replied to replies and then started scrolling.

Goddamn it. I came here do do something. Fuck.

mPony,

Good! Use your distracted feelings, boy. Let the scroll flow through you!

Terevos,
@Terevos@lemm.ee avatar

I’m still on reddit. But only like 5 subs. (stuff important to me that goes way beyond reddit’s idiocy)

So I’ve unsubscribed to everything except those.

My front page on reddit is great. I literally only get those 5 subs.

alphacyberranger,
@alphacyberranger@lemmy.world avatar

Lemmy is getting a lot of content these days. So I’m happy with it.

RootBeerGuy,
@RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Yeah, it was a bit weird at the start with all those emtpy communities and you didn’t quite know if any are taking off.

Now a few months later you can stop going to those that still remain empty or are just reddit repost bot cementeries.

Not as much variety as reddit but also not sure how anyone could expect that within a few months.

I am just amazed how many people still put up with the official reddit app.

alphacyberranger,
@alphacyberranger@lemmy.world avatar

If one thing the 2 years of covid taught me ,it’s that “people are lazy and stubborn”. We could have forced u/spez to go back but instead most people just decided “nah it’s fine, we’ll get used to it”. The same with working from office. Just why? The damn CEOs and the other fossils in upper management are stubborn to change.

DeltaTangoLima,
@DeltaTangoLima@reddrefuge.com avatar

sub.rehab is a good place to look for former Reddit communities that made the move.

mPony,

that site has a great interface, lots of ways to sort data in useful ways.
Other sites could learn a thing or two from whoever did their UI

boatsnhos931,

HOOOOTIE WHOOOO

Haui,
@Haui@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Another ex redditor here. The issue seems to be that a lot of people created communities but never bothered to post something. Even my little ubuntu server community has nearly 90 subscribers by now.

We should work on more visible „you‘re here, what to do next“. Something like „go to communities tab, all, subscribe to each one you like“, missing any? Make them yourselves, but dont forget to post on them since very few people will subscribe to an empty community. 10-20 posts over a month should be a good start. Generally avoid bots since they dont boost interaction at all (my personal impression).

Or a reminder for people who have made communities but no posts. That would stress them a bit I suppose but I thought I‘d bring the idea to the table.

Anyway, have a good one. :)

schnurrito,

I didn’t frequently post new threads on reddit either. The great thing about the structure of reddit and Lemmy (as opposed to that of e.g. Twitter/Mastodon) is you don’t really need to have your own ideas what to post, you can look at what others have posted and then react to that by adding your thoughts. But of course if everybody did only that, then there wouldn’t be anything to react to, and that may be kinda the problem right now.

imaqtpie,
@imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works avatar

Yeah I’m definitely much more of a commenter than a poster. In the early weeks I was really trying to post but I kinda ran out of steam.

But of course if everybody did only that, then there wouldn’t be anything to react to, and that may be kinda the problem right now.

You’re right, we have plenty of users with insightful viewpoints, but there is a dearth of posts and content for them to talk about. Also, let’s not forget that the sorting algorithm isn’t great right now and a lot of people aren’t seeing enough of the content that does exist.

Haui,
@Haui@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Exactly. You hit the nail on the head imo. I didn’t even think about this particular mechanic until you mentioned it.

People are so used go „reaction content“ and „reacting“ passively that this place does not grow as fast as it probably could if people were more creative. Creativity is like a muscle. If you don’t train it, it’s really weak.

So, I think it’s very much a good idea to put some easily visible „suggestion“ somewhere that this place will improve as much as you make it by posting original content ie questions and ideas.

droans,

A large issue is that what would be one subreddit is now a dozen different communities. What would fix this is allowing communities to “federate”.

Let’s say you had [email protected] and [email protected].

The mods could have the option to consolidate with each other. Each would have to agree to the move and could revoke that access at any time. If one instance goes down, the other still retains their posts. Both of them would still exist on their own, but anything made on one would automatically be published on the other.

This could have multiple levels.

At the most basic, posts are just automatically brought over between each community. The mods can take action that only affects their local instance.

You can then add an option to federate with the other community and any community they federate with. Mods are presented with options to disallow some of those communities if they choose.

Each community can then set moderation levels and permissions. There could be an option to retain moderation on federated posts made on the other instance for their local posts. IE if [email protected] removes a post made on [email protected], [email protected] can choose to have it removed there.

You can also choose to grant full mod powers to other communities. So if [email protected] removes any post, even one made on [email protected], it would automatically be removed from [email protected].

This would alleviate the fractures caused by multiple communities without losing the benefits of federation.

Haui,
@Haui@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Thats a neat idea. Maybe make a feature request on github? This stuff needs to be brought to the devs attention.

akakevbot,
@akakevbot@sh.itjust.works avatar

This is a really interesting idea. It would address one of the biggest hurdles I’ve had with full Lemmy adoption. I find a lot of the communities for many topics can be fractured with seemingly duplicative communities. It could also allow the larger user base to decrease the dependency on a particular instance.

bionicjoey,

I think a lot of people don’t realize just how much content on Reddit was being posted by bots. Also, the culture here is a lot more accepting of posting and commenting days or weeks apart, more like an old-school forum. Whereas on Reddit I would have thought someone was weird if they were commenting on a post I made a week ago, here it’s not that weird. It means discussions can go on a bit longer.

Haui,
@Haui@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

I agree 100%. Commenting on an old post was different over there. But I think my original point still stands. Peeps who want this place to thrive need to make a post every now and then. :)

TeaHands,
@TeaHands@lemmy.world avatar

What sort of communities are you looking for, OP? Maybe we can give you a hand getting settled in.

Papanca,

As an aside; i really like

!trendingcommunities

It’s a great and easy way to get an overview of new communities or communities with some new activity. I check interesting communities and if i like them, i subscribe. There is also a community where you can ask for a certain community. I asked once and someone replied and pointed me to an interesting community:

!requests

TeaHands,
@TeaHands@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah trendingcommunities is great! Was very proud of !knitting for getting in there last week lol.

That second link though is the bot spam instance where you can request a subreddit for it to just mindlessly repost. Most people already have it blocked. There are probably places to request real communities too but I don’t know them off the top of my head!

Papanca,

Haha, yep, joined the knitting one, even though i’m on a hiatus. Still nice to see people show off their work.

I had no idea about that instance; i joined once, asked for a community and someone immediately shared one, so i thought it was very helpful. Thanks for letting me know!

Brawndo,

We exist!

tryagain,

Aloha.

MagneticFusion,

still here

EyesEyesBaby,

Still here my man

RedditRefugeeTom,

Sup dood.

emptyother,
@emptyother@programming.dev avatar

A lot of communities went to Discord for some reason. I don’t get it, its not the same as reddit at all.

ProdigalFrog,

Yeah, r/mealtimevideos officially adopted Discord, and when I brought up Lemmy to the mods, they said none of them knew much about it, so they skipped over it I guess.

Thankfully we do have !Mealtimevideos and !mealtimevideos, which I try to keep stocked with interesting stuff.

gkpy,

nice. i didn’t know about the lemmy equivalents of mtv!

do you know why i can’t subscribe to the community on lemmy.world?

ProdigalFrog,

Is it saying you’re not logged in when you go to it? Or is the subscribe button just grayed out?

gkpy,

greyed out subscribe button

ProdigalFrog,

Huh, I’m note sure why it wouldn’t allow you, it should be available to anyone, and I seem to be able to subscribe to it with my alt Kbin account. You might want to send a message to either the lemmy.world or lemmy.ml admins for help.

nieceandtows,

Hey I’m starting to use it for my meal times and it’s very useful. Thanks for the content

ProdigalFrog,

You’re welcome ^^

PrivateNoob,

Wow didn’t heard of this community yet. Thanks!

bubbalu,

AS reddit was born out of the forum, more and more convoluted-feature-laden discord servers will arise out of reddit

FredericChopin_,

👋

daredevil,
@daredevil@kbin.social avatar

Greetings from kbin.social

Arotrios,
@Arotrios@kbin.social avatar

Woot Kbin Gang! Holds the best parties by far. You get lemmings and mastodons all rocking out as Reddit burns. This occasionally gets messy (mastodons get pregnant, lemmings get flat), but damn is it fun.

Being able to follow other users makes a huge difference to content discovery - there's a lot of immediate content you're missing out on if you're only on Lemmy, and Mastodon users miss out on most of the long form content and discussions.

NumbersCanBeFun,
@NumbersCanBeFun@kbin.social avatar

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    Ditto. Originally started with Beehaw but preferred kbin and the UI/extra features, so stuck around here on kbin.social. As for Twitter I hopped to Mastodon with little issue aside from having to move instances once.

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