More dog owners are questioning vaccines like rabies after COVID

More than half of U.S. dog owners expressed concerns about vaccinating their dogs, including against rabies, according to a new study published Saturday in the journal Vaccine. The study comes as anti-vaccine sentiments among humans have exploded in the wake of the COVID-19 pandemic.

Pets are now often considered to be a member of the family, and their health-care decisions are weighed with the same gravity. But the consequences of not vaccinating animals can be just as dire as humans. Dogs, for example, are responsible for 99% of rabies cases globally. Rabies, which is often transmitted via a bite, is almost always fatal for animals and people once clinical signs appear. A drop in rabies vaccination could constitute a serious public health threat.

In the new study, the authors surveyed 2,200 people and found 53% had some concern about the safety, efficacy or necessity of canine vaccines. Nearly 40% were concerned that vaccines could cause dogs to develop autism, a theory without any scientific merit.

scytale,

Welp, looks like rabies is gonna have a huge comeback. I bet there’s a huge overlap with antivaxx owners and unleashed pets too.

bernieecclestoned,

As the disease progresses, the person may experience delirium, abnormal behavior, hallucinations, hydrophobia (fear of water), and insomnia. The acute period of disease typically ends after 2 to 10 days. Once clinical signs of rabies appear, the disease is nearly always fatal,

Fisk400,

I believe the current survival rate is 29 people ever.

blanketswithsmallpox,
@blanketswithsmallpox@kbin.social avatar

Sauce. It's a bit old at 2020 though so there are probably a few more.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7266186/

ech,

It’s a bit old at 2020 though so there are probably a few more.

Well the average is 1 survivor every 167 years, so I’d say that’s charitable.

blanketswithsmallpox,
@blanketswithsmallpox@kbin.social avatar

Well the average is 1 survivor every 167 years, so I’d say that’s charitable.

This is nonsense lmfao. Why you even said this after I linked a literal study about the surviving cases is beyond me.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabies

ech,

30 survivors in 5000 years = 1/167. Apparently it’s about 4000 years, so 1/133. My bad.

blanketswithsmallpox,
@blanketswithsmallpox@kbin.social avatar

Do you believe the earth is 5000 years old or something?

The first unvaccinated person to live from rabies was in 2004 due to the Milwaukee Protocol.

2023 - 2004 = 19. 29/19 = 1.53 survivors per year.

ech,

You’re taking this way more seriously than it was intended. It was an off the cuff comment. I just took the known history of rabies and divided it by known survivors.

utopianfiat,

Only 5 of whom had no long-term damage.

PetDinosaurs,

It’s really sad too.

One interpretation of the cause of this problem is that vaccines are just too effective. No one has polio, not to mention even chicken pox.

A resurgence of rabies (or, god forbid, small pox) will clear that up real quick.

Then again, too much of this planet have been fed a steady diet of propaganda for most of their adult lives.

blanketswithsmallpox,
@blanketswithsmallpox@kbin.social avatar

Ahem.

Fwiw the last big smallpox outbreak was in 1962.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1079469/

PetDinosaurs,

And? All that needs to happen for a major world outbreak now that almost no one has any immunity is for it to escape from a lab or a vial in cardboard box somewhere.

How many millions died from COVID? Try billions.

Let me tell you what, that would sure reduce our carbon footprint and the price of housing.

Furball,

Smallpox can never return. It is gone forever

PetDinosaurs, (edited )

It’s extinct in the wild. It’s still frozen in labs, and the soviet union made it in vast quantities before falling apart. There’s also samples sitting around that are occasionally found.

It’s not completely gone. That’s why they still vaccinate you for it when you join the military.

A simple search would tell you that there is a great deal of controversy over the fact that this virus is not gone forever.

Try to be better and not amplify false statements.

Furball,

I don’t think that anyone plans on releasing smallpox from labs. That wouldn’t benefit anyone.

PetDinosaurs, (edited )

Who said anything about planning?

Bytemeister,

Oh, hello! It must be your first time coming to Earth and meeting humanity.

Riyria,

I literally saw lady letting fucking hellspawn of a child COVERED IN CHICKEN POX run around barefoot at Aldi a few weeks ago. I was so panicked I didn’t know what to do because I didn’t even see them until I was walking out so I just got out as fast as I could. My wife has never had chickenpox, and adult chickenpox can apparently be much more deadly, so it was definitely kind of terrifying.

CaptainAniki,

Get the damn vaccine.

Riyria,

I’ll have to check to see if she’s gotten it. I can’t imagine she’s gone this long without getting chickenpox and not being vaccinated for it, but I don’t think the chickenpox vaccine was as widely known of when we were kids in the 90s.

gornar,
@gornar@lemmy.world avatar

There’s an adult vaccine, get it and fear not: webmd.com/…/chickenpox-varicella-vaccine-guidelin…

utopianfiat,

cocks shotgun not if I can help it

Son_of_dad,

Cats too. I hate that people let cats roam, it’s irresponsible and shitty to just let your pet out to do whatever it wants with everyone else’s property. And now there are gonna be unvaccinated, rabid cats roaming and infecting it further.

Hey maybe the apocalypse is coming and this is the start of a zombie/aggressive rabies outbreak!

systemglitch,

I’d let my cat out if I had one. They deserve to explore and be happy

lolcatnip,

They die much younger on average if you do that.

systemglitch,

True that.

Claidheamh,

They deserve to explore and be happy

Do they deserve to explore and suffer horrible injuries and/or death? All the while decimating local bird populations, and, if not spayed or neutered, creating more kittens to live lives full of suffering and hardship?

systemglitch,

Yep

Claidheamh,

Good thing you don’t have cats then, sounds like you’d be an irresponsible owner.

systemglitch,

If you say so friend.

systemglitch,

I thought you would love to know… haha, we are e now irresponsible cat owners. ;)

Claidheamh,

Why would I like to know that you’re proud of potentially causing suffering to your pets and other animals?

Even just today I had to rescue a kitten who had been yelling for hours near my house because their owners let them outside. At least she was microchipped so we could find them easily, but she was not happy about it at all. Came running after me as soon as she saw me, and ran inside the house when I opened the kitchen door.

systemglitch,

Never change.

Son_of_dad,

Can you imagine if dog people just opened their doors at night, let their dogs fuck off to wreck property, kill pets, get killed themselves, and destroy native birds and animals? They’d rightly be called out and have their pets taken away. Take care of YOUR pet and keep it on YOUR property. I’ve had issues with neighbor cats causing damages to my property, and if your pet becomes my pest, I will treat it as such.

I remember a neighbor’s cat once almost tore through my window screen to get at my pet parrot. If that cat had made it inside my house and attacked my pet, he would not have made it out alive.

systemglitch,

Dogs and cats are not the same. And that sucks.

I’m also glad I don’t know you and I bet that is mutual. We can celebrate this non-familularity.

asunaspersonalasst,
@asunaspersonalasst@lemmy.world avatar

If only we can tell their dogs to not bite people for no reason…

Gerula,

It’s kinda good, we need mechanisms which can keep natural selection on its track …

bamboo,

I don’t want to be naturally un-selected because my neighbor’s rabid dog bit me.

Gerula,

You’re right, but hey, we have to be inclusive with every idiot …

lambda,
@lambda@programming.dev avatar

Or un-naturally selected? 🤔

elevenfingerfrk,

Get a gun. Shoot their dogs. Problem solved 😁

random65837,

Except for when you’re in jail for shooting their dog.

elevenfingerfrk,

I mean, I didn’t say there weren’t consequences lol

random65837,

I’m with ya, but you know how that argument will be flipped.

Treczoks,

So they want to play with their dogs life like they do witb their unvaccinated kids?

random65837,

No doubt our pets are realistically over vaccinated, just like people, but fucking Rabies? That’s really not one to gamble with, too realistic of a chance of it happening.

Zeragamba,
@Zeragamba@lemmy.ca avatar

At least in Canada, rabies vaccines are legally mandated

elevenfingerfrk,

This is a problem that’s going to solve itself as soon as their dogs get rabies.

randalthor17,

Do these people actually want to experience rabies, a disease with 99.9999999999% death rate, for themselves? Well, good luck for them, and natural selection will prevail.

limelight79,

Unfortunately the dog is probably more likely to bite someone else, not a member of the family that refused to vaccinate him.

deconstruct,

I feel sorry for the dogs that will suffer because of this nonsense.

SatansMaggotyCumFart,

At least they won’t be autistic.

bernieecclestoned,

I hear it turns dogs gay or something

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

And magnetic. You don’t want a magnetic dog.

ech,

Sure as hell do. Shoe-in for frisbee throwing champs.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, but then they go in the kitchen and get near the knives. Then you have a knife dog.

ares35,
@ares35@kbin.social avatar

have their own identity, they'll sniff and hump anything

Nougat,

Mine has dogtism.

snooggums,
@snooggums@kbin.social avatar

No, that is Attention Deficit Hyperactive Dog (ADHD)

instamat,

You’re going to deny them all that 5G coursing through their veins? Think of the speed increase!

Rubanski,

Babe wake up, 6G vaccines just dropped

TheBenCommandments,
@TheBenCommandments@infosec.pub avatar

I feel sorry for the humans that will suffer from incurable diseases like rabies because of this nonsense.

ImpossibleRubiksCube,

OK grandma.

LaunchesKayaks,
@LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world avatar

I know several people who don’t vaccinate their pets. I don’t hang out with them if their critters are around. It’s not worth the risk.

I had half my face ripped off by a dog when I was a kid, so I take rabies very seriously. I got jumped by 3 raccoons a while ago and went through the rabies vaccine process as a precaution.

I get my animals every vaccine that my vet offers. Gotta protect their furry lil dumb asses

Tavarin,
@Tavarin@lemmy.ca avatar

My cats are 100% indoors, and I still got them all their vaccines. It would be ridiculous not to.

LaunchesKayaks,
@LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world avatar

Exactly. My cats don’t go outside at all and they have everything. Who knows what I or my dogs could drag inside on our feet.

regalia,

These people are more inbred then a pug

Samanthastanky,

I’ve recently encountered a cat rescue that rehomes their feral cats without giving them their rabies vaccines and NOT disclosing this. Ask me how I know and am 11 needles deep…they asked me to lie to public health and maintain that rabies isn’t actually necessary and I wasn’t really put at risk (?!)

It’s fucking ludicrous and public health barely responded.

I am all for saving and rehoming ferals but holy hell VACCINATE AGAINST RABIES. The reason it’s not as prevalent is BECAUSE OF THE VACCINES.

deconstruct,

This is awful!

Can you complain further up the chain, at a county or state level?

geekworking,

The truly ironic thing is that the fact that vaccines worked so well at eliminating so many horrible diseases is why these chuckle fucks don’t think that they need vaccines.

If they never saw a loved one killed or permanently fucked up from disease it must not exist or it’s no a big deal. They are completely oblivious to the fact that vaccines are the reason why they never saw the suffering and death first hand.

Urbanfox,

The sentiment is different now though around becoming unwell with one of these diseases. They’ll argue they caught it from vaccine shedding rather than naturally so it will just make them even more psychotic on the antivax soapbox.

Andrew Wakefield has a lot to answer for by rocket powering our regression in modern medicine.

twistypencil,

Yeah, I feel like anyone who denies a vaccine should be forced to watch a graphic video about people who suffer the effects of measles, mumps, reubella or rabies or whatever they are wanting to deny and then can make their choice if they want that, or to believe a Baywatch star regurgitate nonsense

lorez,

Oh, but if this goes on they’ll definitely see the effects.

Bytemeister,

Unfortunately, Herman Caine awards are a thing. There were plenty of honorable mentions where the person caught COVID, went through a long, expensive, and arduous recovery, and they are still staunchly anti-vax. The damage the far right media has done to the world will take at least a generation of aggressive countermeasures to correct.

books,

There should definitely be laws about vaccinating dogs against rabies.

LaunchesKayaks,
@LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world avatar

I think there are? At least I think there is in PA.

AngryCommieKender,

Every state in the union except Kansas has a law on the books, though New York seems to have some technicality going on.

powershotsmn.com/rabies_laws_by_state.html

Many do allow medical exemption though, so these nuts have a loophole in many states.

lntl,

this headline is meant to get a rise out of readers. are these numbers greater than they used to be? we can’t say they’re on the rise without a prior measurement

Fades,

Maybe don’t stop reading at the headline then, or better yet read the actual fucking paper they reference.

If you truly cared the answers are there

lntl,

the number is not in the article op posted. op didn’t post a link to the paper, my comment is on the article not the paper.

your tone sucks. people don’t deserve to be spoken to that way and your actions have consequences. do better.

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