Mixel,
@Mixel@szmer.info avatar

So true!!

people_are_cute,
@people_are_cute@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

It’s a shame but it’s also true none of the options are a real alternative to Twitter. Twitter’s main strength comes from the number of creators it has and the discoverability of content for general users. None have succeeded in breaking it.

Eheran,

Discoverability of content above average? On Twitter? An I doing something wrong? The only time I end up on Twitter is when someone links to it. Following or even searching in comments is essentially not possible.

PeleSpirit,

I think it’s a great platform for people who like celebrities or talking heads. I don’t care about those people so I was more into reddit where it was more like anonymous peers. Lemmy takes the place of reddit super well but I could see why Mastodon doesn’t because there are no celebrities or talking heads.

loaExMachina,

talking heads

You may find yourself

Posting on a shutdown server

And you may find yourself

In another part of the web

And you may find yourself

On a beautiful site

With a beautiful admin

And you may say to yourself

How did I get here?

Dee,
@Dee@lemmings.world avatar

This made my day, thank you.

itsgroundhogdayagain,

I miss it so bad. I try to make Mastadon work but it just doesn’t without the people I want to hear from. Just having bots echo what those accounts say along with the lack of interaction makes it less fun.

Roundcat, (edited )
Roundcat avatar

I've just learned to follow smaller accounts with similar interest. As a celebrity follow machine, it's awful because nobody is really on there officially except for a handful of people.

Hashtags are much more important on Masto too cause without an algorithm, its one of the only ways your posts are visible to others. I find with the right combo of tags though, I can get a decent amount of interaction.

There was a good solid week where most of my attention was focused on Mastodon. I guess it all depends on what you were originally using twitter for. I guess it clicked for me cause I barely used twitter to begin with.

DrQuint,

hashtag are much more important on Masto

And this is why the First Twitter Exodus was so miserable. Back then following tags or searching tags was a part of the interface but didn’t work.

kspatlas,
@kspatlas@artemis.camp avatar

Maybe try just browsing the local feed or looking up hashtags of things you like, might help you find new people

Comment105,

Maybe a monthly/quarterly coordinated push to get people to migrate would be more effective at making it push through, rather than tiny blips of “Hey, maybe Mastodon?” on occasion.

And then whenever people inevitably try it and decide not to stay, as I did, make sure to pick up on any feedback and take it seriously. Maybe after a year it’ll be a genuinely desirable alternative.

I personally think it’s a messy pile of junk.

thefartographer,

Beep boop, I’m a bot or some shit like that.

I’m sorry to hear that you are experiencing issues with I miss it so bad. This makes my face sad. I see you’ve already tried troubleshooting by try to make Mastadon work but it jus… and were perhaps unsuccessful. We’re always trying to improve, in fact we independently recently identified an issue with Just having bots echo what those accounts say along wi… and were impressed that you’d even notice such a specific issue! Less than 1% of our users are as talented and observant as you are. We truly care, so keep those comments coming and we can help you interaction makes it less fun..

Have a great day!

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OsrsNeedsF2P,

What the

thefartographer,

44 unique clicks and only 3 responses to my form… We gotta get those numbers up!!!

superkret,

It needs a Google account so I’m out.

Getallen,

??? what It just needs an email account, not necessarily google.

thefartographer,

Fuck Google, why does it need any accounts? I know I’m the one who chose to use Google, but also, fuck Google.

thefartographer,

That’s a healthy choice

ModernRisk,
@ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Curiosity, what is Bluesky? Never heard of it.

someguy3,

Jack Dorsey’s new project. Essentially a new Twitter.

soloner,

He should call it Twitter now that the name is available again. Wouldn’t that be hilarious if he just made Twitter all over again and everyone on X went back to Twitter?

I know that won’t happen but it would be super funny to see how Elon reacts to it.

jungekatz,

Unfortunately thats not how trademarks work

Rozauhtuno,
@Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

But if the rat stops using the Twitter trademark he’s gonna lose it, right?

jungekatz,

No musk when purchased twitter, the trademark was part of it , he can hold on to it as long as they want !

smileyhead,

A worse version of ActivityPub

HappyMeatbag, (edited )
@HappyMeatbag@beehaw.org avatar

Bluesky started out being owned by Twitter (pre Musk), but became a completely separate company (also pre Musk). Somewhat like Mastadon, it is intended to be decentralized. It’s still in beta, so it’s not freely open to the public yet - you have to get an invitation from someone who already uses it.

How do they plan to make money? “We’ll be publishing a blog post on our monetization plans in a few weeks, and we’ll share more then” according to Emily Liu, part of the Bluesky team.

blueskyweb.org

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluesky_Social

Resol,
@Resol@lemmy.world avatar

It’s the fediverse Lite (doesn’t work with ActivityPub, it’s its own protocol). It’s also Twitter Lite (created by the founder of Twitter, now known as X). It’s the worst of both worlds.

CanniBallistic_Puppy,

All the idiots are still on shitter and idiots are how influencers make money.

Lininop,

And then you have people on here, which are also idiots but with a superiority complex!

Roundcat,
@Roundcat@kbin.social avatar

You're talking to a site with many former redditors who left a lot of comfort and communities behind to tell the reddit staff they can't get any with infringing on users' safety, comfort, and accessibility. afaic they are superior cause by simply being here, helping fediverse grow, and interacting with reddit as little as possible, they are sending that message louder and clearer than any of the redditors who caved in their protests and remained.

I shit on former redditors a lot. I complain about some of the culture they dragged along with them that is neither conductive or helpful to creating meaningful conversation. I even complain sometimes this place can feel a lot like reddit at times. But if there is one thing I can say about much of the former reddit community here is they are people of their convictions. Their integrity meant more to them than the comfort they enjoyed on the former site.

original_ish_name,

But I am superior

Umbra,

Twitter is amazing now

TropicalDingdong,

I think it just shows how weak willed and lacking in self control people are.

Roundcat,
Roundcat avatar

As a former redditor, fair.

TropicalDingdong,

With twitter in particular, I really really don’t get how any leftists are still on there. Its like, beguiling.

Honestly, if you are any kind of a progressive or leftist or just don’t identify as a rightwing piece of shit, and are still on twitter once Elon took it over, you might be a part of the problem.

I know its an extreme take, but I’m like, fresh out of fucks.

Roundcat,
Roundcat avatar

Like I'm forgiving of artists because most of their customer base is there, and internationally, alt platforms are even more unknown. I am somewhat forgiving of journalists who want to reach the widest amount of people possible, despite the fact that Musk has been intentionally targeting and censoring journalists he doesn't like.

I really don't get a lot of leftist or liberal content creators though. Many constantly push the message that you vote with your wallet, and discourage patronizing businesses, services, or franchises that actively hate or harm marginalized people. Yet at the same time, they are using a platform owned by some who is literally trying to make the platform as hostile to marginalized people as possible. A lot of users have left twitter because they no longer feel safe using the platform. In fact, the reason you see a lot of queer people here on fediverse is because many of them are twitter refugees.

And yet many leftist and liberal creators remain on twitter, exclusively in fact. I could understand it if they pushed some content to alts to keep within reach of users that left while still maintaining their fanbase on twitter, but many of them won't even touch any of the alternatives, much less make themselves more reachable on youtube or other social platforms. By remaining on twitter, they are encouraging their userbase to remain as well, which creates engagement, which benefits ad companies who pay Musk, who funnels that into groups and causes that undermine their audience.

At this point, It is an integrity test for me. How large is this creator's following on twitter? How often does this person post and interact on twitter? and what have they said in the past about interacting with harmful brands? What's their excuse for remaining if any, and would they had accepted that excuse if the shoe was on the other foot?

I accept some people have an addiction, and as someone who tried to leave reddit many times, I know it can be a hard one to kick. But if your brand is built on integrity, standing up for the marginalized, and being ethical with your consumption habbits, remaining active on twitter is not a good look to me.

TropicalDingdong,

This is pretty much where I fall out. Twitter is largely as powerful as it is because it became a way for journalists, often leftists, to share information.

But they can’t out it down.

qwamqwamqwam,

But what about the comic?! The comic says I don’t have to change my lifestyle to align with my purported values! It absolves me of my responsibility to do anything beyond complain, no matter how trivial the change required! Doesn’t the comic say complaining about a problem is basically just as good as actually contributing to fixing it?

Rainhall,

I can’t remember if Milo or Binkley said it, but “there are no moral absolutes in a complex world.”

ThunderingJerboa,
@ThunderingJerboa@kbin.social avatar

I mean for people who aren't influencers it doesn't make much sense. For influencers, even though some people hate twitter or whatever its called now it is the place with one of the largest presences/userbases around. Many influencers use that to their advantage to grow their own userbase. Some influencers can move over and maybe convert some of their audiences over but realistically you need a very big player to do it beforehand.

thefattman,

Addiction is a helluva thing

JoYo,
@JoYo@lemmy.ml avatar

Or like all the youtubers making bank by complaining about youtube.

HappyMeatbag,
@HappyMeatbag@beehaw.org avatar

This is the very first time I’ve even heard of Firefish.

ultra,

AFAICT it used to be called Calckey

HappyMeatbag,
@HappyMeatbag@beehaw.org avatar

Oh! That’s something I’ve heard of.

flameguy21,

I’d be down to use Mastodon but no one I know uses it so there’s nothing to do. Pain.

CyberBoy,

Do what I did, make some new friends on mastodon. Theres a ton of great people on there :3

Corgana,
@Corgana@startrek.website avatar

For real. I hang out with my friends IRL, I don’t need to follow them online. I’m on Mastodon to get what they can’t offer (all my friends are idiots).

ultra,

I use Instagram for talking to friends (and others my age from my country), and mastodon for online friends, and more tech-savvy people.

Duamerthrax,

I only use twitter through nitter. I just want these people to mirror their shit to an RSS feed.

HotsauceHurricane,
@HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.one avatar

Tf is firefish?

veloxization,

Formerly known as Calckey. Twitter replacement similarly to Mastodon. Also uses ActivityPub.

Uvine_Umbra, (edited )
@Uvine_Umbra@partizle.com avatar

Using it rn, it’s forked from Misskey and is in alpha rn

It feels like mastodon but they sprinkled in a few telegram features tbh.

Much better than mastodon in terms of user experience tho

superkret,

The reason normal people don’t switch, in a nutshell.

FringeTheory999,

“youtuber” and “still uses twitter exclusively” hmmmmmmmmmm. lol.

Roundcat,
Roundcat avatar

Well it's not like the Youtube comment section is where I would expect anyone to safely interact.

AI_toothbrush,

When people dont wanna switch to madtodon because its another app and too lazy to set it up but everyone suddenly starts using threads when facebook releases it.

FlaminGoku,

It’s a lot easier when it’s a seamless transition vs a new platform. Also, it seems like the usage took a nosedive.

stebo02,
@stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I’m glad it did. Imagine: People keep complaining about Xitter, refuse to use Mastodon, then suddenly all migrate to Meta because new platform hype. This almost actually happened and I think the only reasons it didn’t is that Threads is inaccessible in Europe and from what I’ve heard the app was crap.

Hudomi,

Too many people are just so basic they won’t even consider trying anything but “mainstream”. If Lemmy or Mastodon became mainstream platforms, you can bet they would come in masses because “there’s where everyone’s at.”

SneakyWeasel,

Really, I’m still on Twitter because I follow a lot of my favorite artists there, and they sure don’t have Mastodon.

Getallen,

Consider a custom client like Quacker if you only lurk.

Holzkohlen,
@Holzkohlen@feddit.de avatar

Artists are the only thing I miss. Yes, I did already find a bunch of new ones on mastodon, but it’s still not nearly enough.

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