Rentlar,

Had mine last month (Canada), over at a conservative’s uncle’s place but things turned unexpectedly…

I was going in expecting a left vs. right kind of political shouting match between my cousins and I against my conservative relatives.

What ended up happening was everyone was unified in a shouting match against my dad… who was the only one convinced that the future generations won’t be going to shit if we stay the status quo.

TheDoctorDonna,

At least both sides can agree on something? Not something productive, but it’s something!

corsicanguppy,

won’t be going to shit if we stay the status quo.

While proven improvements are good, simply changing things because it sucks right now is not a great idea.

There is no problem so bad that it cannot be made worse, and the cons are banking on you not knowing that.

Rentlar,

Well here’s the thing. I find these relatives and I come to a similar conclusion, albeit through different paths. My ideas are that the wealthy elite use labour exploitation and obfuscating it through “technology”, to keep their wealth and keep us poor, hungry and easily controlled. My conservative family claims that through some strange brew of government regulations, restrictions to freedom, immigrants, woke education, and that kind of stuff that the wealthy elite use to control us. So (my relatives at least) are actually somewhat reasonable and attentive to my rants and I similarly try to show how I understand them to a point when they talk about trade and exploitation. I have to still explain away their misconceptions, like having to say that 400ppm+ of Carbon is a problem for our planet even if air is 20% oxygen.

zeekaran,

Despite the quality of the guests, there wasn’t one.

FARTYSHARTBLAST,
@FARTYSHARTBLAST@kbin.social avatar

It was something about whether a reference was from one movie or another. I don't really remember the specifics, but the food was good and I enjoy not having a dysfunctional family!

CommanderM2192,

My family is extremely left wing and religious right wing. So…

“Not enough Israeli civilians are dying.” “Palestinians shouldn’t exist.” “Hamas isn’t evil.” “Trump won the election.” “Jewish culture is a Western invention.” etc

Fun times. Probably my last Thanksgiving with biological family.

xkforce, (edited )

So everyone holds atrocious viewpoints just on opposite teams.

CommanderM2192,

Pretty much. What makes it worse is just about everyone was more moderate a decade ago. Everyone’s just gone off the deep end. Never would have thought I’d hear these things from them back then.

FlashMobOfOne,
@FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world avatar

Probably my last Thanksgiving with biological family.

Stopped spending all holidays with my bio family three years ago.

Do it.

It’s wonderful.

Wumbologist,

Anyone else grow up hearing about that one crazy, estranged aunt/uncle who cut ties with the family years prior, only to eventually understand, then become them?

Buddahriffic,

And you make contact and they turn out to be entirely reasonable and someone you’d prefer to spend time with over any of the main family?

Personally, no, but I’ve seen it a lot browsing the drama subs on that old site.

gum_dragon,

Growing up my dad always complained about his in-laws and would say “be careful, when you marry someone you marry their family!”

And he’s right! I married into a wonderful family that I spend the holidays with.

FlashMobOfOne,
@FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world avatar

And if they ask why, be honest about it. Don’t be cruel, but be honest.

wheeldawg,

One never heard anyone on either side say Hamas isn’t evil or not not enough Israeli civilians are dying.

That’s not a left wing thing, your family is properly fucked.

CommanderM2192,

I have to respectfully disagree. It’s not a “general” leftwing thing. But it certainly is an extremist leftwing thing. Would you consider someone who believes all women should be able to get abortions, China is one of the best countries in the world, and Obama was one of the best presidents we’ve had in half a century a rightwinger? There are quite a few extremists on the left who will happily tell you about a certain race is a “problem”. Not much different than Nazis imo

your family is properly fucked

Agree there 100%.

Rhaedas,
@Rhaedas@kbin.social avatar

Relevant XKCD, just yesterday actually.

Cocodapuf,

I think that actually happened last year!

DirigibleProtein,

Whether Petbarn is, or should be, open on Xmas day. My stepson is yelling and stamping his feet, absolutely certain that they are, and if not, they should be, on the off chance that someone needs to buy pet stuff.

FlashMobOfOne,
@FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world avatar

None.

I spend Thanksgiving at home, alone, with my dogs. It is the absolute best.

RanchOnPancakes,
@RanchOnPancakes@lemmy.world avatar

Turkey. Fried or Baked. Baked won, as is right.

SpaceNoodle,

Smoked.

TheRaven,
@TheRaven@lemmy.ca avatar

Boiled

BackOnMyBS,
@BackOnMyBS@lemmy.world avatar

Fermented

ProfessorGumby,
@ProfessorGumby@midwest.social avatar

Alive and uneaten

freeindv,

Barely warmed up on the radiator

Rentlar,

Microwaved

BackOnMyBS,
@BackOnMyBS@lemmy.world avatar

you’re disgusting

Ookami38,

Medium rare

enjoy_slurm,
@enjoy_slurm@lemmy.world avatar

You may be saying boiled in jest, but boiling a turkey whole in crawfish boil makes a nicely spiced turkey that will never be too dry. I’m not sure of it is just a Louisiana thing, but I came across a recipe a couple years ago it turned out to be a big hit.

nomecks,

Rotisserie. The only way to cook a turkey.

BallShapedMan,

My kid argued with me about what one sixteenth of a pie looked like when he was serving me. He tried to give me one eighth and I was already full!

morphballganon,

If that was the biggest argument that happened, your family is doing alright.

BallShapedMan,

We are, they are good humans!

MoreThanCorrect, (edited )

Brother in law adopted a young dog a week ago.

Very nice pitbull that got along well with people and the other dogs at the gathering, including ours. It had been adopted and given up two times in its life already for no reason of its own (emergency in adopted family life then an unexpected passing of the next adopter). It emotionally bonded so quickly to my brother in law.

Issue is, my brother in law is a mess himself. Young with a lot of personal issues, barely home, and not able to commit to taking care the pup. He impulse adopted the dog and really realized that this past week.

He decided this morning to give it back to the shelter. We, along with other family members offered to take the dog instead of giving it up. He’s a great dog and only needs a bit of training that is expected with any young pup. Brother in law, stubborn as he is, outright refuses any option other than giving it back to the shelter. No care for the realistic hard chance it will have getting adopted again after being given up for a third time. The pup has a real chance for a good life but no, shelter it must go.

The oven also died so no buns.

Edit: We are planning on getting in contact with the shelter he adopted from to see what our options are if he is returned there. We expect to have to fully adopt with everything that entails. We’ll be out some money but the pup will be in an active home instead of a 8x4 cell.

Hopefully there is some thinking done tonight and the pup will be rehomed without the shelter step.

trash80,

Brother in law, stubborn as he is, outright refuses any option other than giving it back to the shelter. No care for the realistic hard chance it will have getting adopted again after being given up for a third time.

If someone wants the dog, why not just adopt it from the shelter?

SpaceNoodle,

Additional friction, fees, and the real chance that the shelter might not put the little guy back up for adoption.

trash80,

Maybe so. I think getting in touch with the shelter and explaining the situation would be worth a shot. They may have some advice.

SpaceNoodle,

Yeah, it might work out if you can get in touch with them ahead of time.

Great username BTW

trash80,

Thanks.

driving_crooner,
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I think is safer for everyone involved that he returns the animal to the shelter and then adopt it from there. It’s better legally for everyone.

meco03211,

Brother in law, stubborn as he is, outright refuses any option other than giving it back to the shelter.

It’s hard to admit you’ve made such a big mistake. The magnitude of the solution directly relates to the magnitude of the mistake. If you got a jacket that you wind up not liking, no one would be put out if you returned it to the store. He’s only stubborn because he’s trying to convince himself he didn’t fuck up that bad.

conciselyverbose,

A dog isn't a jacket.

meco03211,

That was the point. Most people understand that. I’m saying the brother in law is trying to convince himself his mistake is on the same level as getting a jacket you don’t like.

Orbituary,
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People who treat animals like they’re objects belong in a shelter. They should not be allowed to care for pets.

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