I just upgraded to a 13 from my XR with a dying battery, and while I’m glad overall that Apple has adopted USB-C, I’m glad it started at the 15 so I don’t have to buy a bunch of new cables and bricks. I have 5 cables- 1 in the house as a data cable, 2 in the house as charge cables, 1 in the car and 1 at work. Some of them are longer than others. I don’t want to have to repurchase all of that.
But if you already are part of the USB-C ecosystem, absolutely. That said- this speed limiting thing is bullshit.
Well I don’t have an original quality cloud backup. So eventually I move the DCIM folder back to my PC.
That being said. I haven’t tried “Nearby” to move a 30GB folder with hundreds of items to the PC. Maybe that works fine already. (For a few items it’s very fast as long as you have a fast WiFi network).
I’ll transfer a bunch of audio books to and from my phone every once in a while. Since they are FLAC files I certainly do appreciate the additional speed from having a protocol that’s not yet old enough to drink.
And in case someone missed the reference: USB 2.0 was released in the year 2000.
I think there are logical explanations for this as commented by others. I’m genuinely curious who’s actually transferring data from the phone port these days… it’s been years since I synced anything to my computer. My port is used solely for charging. What’s the use case? Music?
Photos and videos for professionals. These days phone cameras are good enough for at least a backup device and they’ll transfer to laptop using cable. But I’d assume those people are on the iPhone pro models
Music and photos really. But they're not common and you can do that on USB 2 speeds. For me I just take it as an opportunity to slow charge my phone. And I do it so rarely anyway, usually when I'm changing to a new phone.
Moving large FLAC files onto my phone, and sending music data through USB into an audiophile DAC/amp. The higher the transfer speeds the better when you’re moving gigabytes of data from my computer to my phone.
Setting up a network file share or FTP server or whatever and the app to access it is muuuch more effort than just plugging my phone in and using it like any other flash storage device, plus USB3 transfer speeds are better.
For me it’s just simpler and less prone to error is all.
For easy fast sharing over local LAN there are services like pairdrop.net which are far from hard to use. It may not be as fast as USB, but in most cases it works well. I just wanted to point out that sharing things over LAN is not that hard.
If you are dealing with large amounts of data I get it. I’d go hardwired too. Most people’s use case is “I took some video today and I want to mirror it to my computer”. That doesn’t sound like the case.
I struggled with iOS’ Wi-Fi syncing for almost a year before giving up on it. It was garbage (probably also by design to try to force me to pay for overpriced iCloud storage). My use case is to sync photos to the desktop photos app and music to the desktop music app.
Oh, I see typical apple anti trust: make stuff apple don’t like to offer, but kinda have to, very bad to use. Well then, have you tried this? imazing.com
Looks very nice. Maybe I will have to try it sometime.
Fortunately my use case doesn’t require frequent syncing, so once every 2-3 months just plugging my phone in when I know I’ll be at my desk at home for a while is enough. It’s shitty but it gets the job done that I need. I always prefer to stick to the native tools where possible just to stay compliant with whatever changes may come in the future.
Ah, was more talking about the 100 $ to 200 $ price tag for next storage segment on device, since you’ll have to store all pics in hi-res on device vs only “tiny” thumbnails and getting the full pic on demand.
It’s worth noting that wireless transfer does not mean “cloud storage”. It can, and often does, but it is also easy to wirelessly back up things like photos entirely locally. With most prebuilt NAS units, all you have to do is buy something like a synology, some of them even come prefilled with hard drives, and go through the wizard in the app. That’s it, and the app will wirelessly, automatically back up things like pictures to your own locally controlled storage. I’m pretty sure you can do it natively with Time Machine too if you really wanted.
Based on the presentation it seems like the USB3 controller is on-die for the A17 pro bionic chip. So rather than re-engineer the chip for the A16 they’ve shipped it on the cheap, they could add an external controller or re-engineer the die.
Ah. Well if I’m not mistaken Lemmy is mostly Android / FOSS biased so I’m not surprised some people might have the “Apple bad” mindset. Honestly why do people care what products other people use? I read a comment the other day about an Android user despairing that some feature Google is implementing (don’t remember which) might make some Android users jump ship to Apple… Ok who cares? Why so much emotional investment in something so trivial? It sounds just as crazy when you flip it, “Oh no some of my Apple friends are switching to Android or PC” …. A phone is an everyday appliance. Do you care what brand your neighbor’s kitchen appliances are? That’s how you should feel about phones IMHO.
It’s not quite that simple when you’re talking about a company with huge market share like that because the decisions they make go on to effect the market as a whole, look at headphone jacks, or screen notches for example. Not saying this is only apples fault, companies following their lead are just as bad or worse in some cases.
We can see it happening again with the removal of Sim cards, sure it won’t effect me, but if it becomes more industry standard, it will; and I like physical Sims (though that argument is not for here).
In my opinion it is important to know and criticize market leaders to try to avoid those changes becoming industry norm. To use your example, I would care about what whiteware my neighbours buy if the shitty decisions they make come back to effect me down the road. Look at the criticism of smart TVs and how hard it is to get a top featured “dumb Tvs” now.
Ah. Well if I’m not mistaken Lemmy is mostly Android / FOSS biased so I’m not surprised some people might have the “Apple bad” mindset. Honestly why do people care what products other people use? I read a comment the other day about an Android user despairing that some feature Google is implementing (don’t remember which) might make some Android users jump ship to Apple… Ok who cares? Why so much emotional investment in something so trivial? It sounds just as crazy when you flip it, “Oh no some of my Apple friends are switching to Android or PC” …. A phone is an everyday appliance. Do you care what brand your neighbor’s kitchen appliances are? That’s how you should feel about phones IMHO.
iphones are status symbols so they get to be ascribed w the same emotional irrationality that other status symbols get like cars and clothes.
Sorry I missed the “non” part. In that case either they’re using a different die which is definitely possible seeing as they’re clocked lower than the iphone counterparts or they’re utilising an external USB controller.
I’d have to see a teardown, but I’d imagine with all the extra space in the iPads, they could stick a separate controller board in there. Phones are a bit harder to do that with, especially if it’s a last minute change.
Yeah it appears like they are differentiating the high end phones with the latest SoC and giving the core phones the previous year’s chip. You get whatever the old chip had and next year’s iPhone 16 will get the A17 and all the features that includes.
It’s to force people to pay for iCloud storage rather than keep files locally on their PC. That, and nothing else. No other phone in this price range still has USB 2.0, and most haven’t for a very long time.
I don’t know any Apple users who actually use the cable. iCloud is effortless.
I don’t think it’s so much to force people to pay for storage insomuch as only people shooting 4k 60 long videos or people with very poor internet actually plug in to transfer data.
I would hate plugging my phone into my computer even if it were instant.
Because I have to think about it and remember to do it. And have enough storage in my laptop that it can store all my full res files and bring that with me everywhere.
And hope my laptop doesn’t get stolen again. Or have a plan to back that up.
I currently do literally nothing and all my photos and videos are seamlessly everywhere.
I’m not sure I understand how anyone could think syncing over a cable is a better solution.
iCloud backups and photo sync is amazing, especially while traveling. I can be almost anywhere and break or lose or hVe my phone stolen and lose virtually no data anywhere in the world.
My photos and videos are backed up as soon as I take them, not 12 hours later when I plug into a computer, if I remember to and no one steals it in the hotel room.
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