They still won’t admit they were wrong. They don’t possess the willingness to self reflect whatsoever. Imagine living such an empty husk of an existence.
It wouldn’t really be self reflection, because these people don’t really believe the nonsense they say.
When they say the government is going to stay locked down forever, they don’t mean it literally. To them “lock down” is a vibe and “government” is a vague Them that controls the world. As long as the vibes are fucked and They are in charge, it feels correct.
I still wonder why Bill Gates even cares what those living in trailer parks with their Trump flags breeding non stop when it comes to “tracking”. If anything birth control would be a better conspiracy here to slow the march towards the movie “Idiocy” as usually more educated choose not to have kids or lots of kids.
Ohhh Darryl and Jeana went to Walmart again, good thing I put this tracker in. They’ve never been more than 300 miles away from home but now I can always find out where they are!
It’s not like they literally carry a device with them all day that tracks every move they make, what they say, or what they’re doing already
Reality is this is an English thread, I don’t speak or read whatever language that is.
And don’t tell me to use Google Translate, this phone is degoogled and I ain’t about to change that to read a foreign article when I live in and experienced the USA side of things.
I saw a early video from a “medical expert” the government was trying to “silence” we would all be dead within 6 months from the first jab containing cancer, ground up aborted baby fetuses, Aids, Cancer and Alzheimer’s. I usually joke due to the Alzheimer’s I’ve forgotten to die more than once now.
Most have moved on to Trans hate, bathroom use, child groomers and kidnapping. After reading Carl Sagan’s Demon Haunted World, it seems there are old themes religions have used to invoke emotional responses from the masses to maintain control. These conspiracy types have stolen the same plays for their causes to great effect as who does not think child grooming and kidnapping is terrible?
It doesn’t require much thought or research to be moved with this kind of raw emotion and in the 90s these child abuse themes were hard to confirm on a grand scale but also invoked the same responses as alien abductions once did.
not only was it an idiotic thing to believe, but the sheer joy many of them said this with, like they actually would revell in delight at the thought of “vaxxers” dying everywhere. real charming people.
another reason I will never give a cooker the time of day, other than to mock them and watch them get shouty and mad
And now that all their friends, family and coworkers who got the vaccine aren’t dead they’re kind of shitty about it. Any reasonable, decent human being would be so overjoyed and relieved that they were wrong. But they’re not, they’re annoyed. And now I’m supposed to carry on and trust them like they care about people other than themselves.
I saw a minivan go by just the other day that had large homemade foam (?) syringe on top of their car with the word “genocide” painted on. They’re still waiting for it to happen.
Unironically my health seems to be better for completely unrelated things. It’s not the vaccine that did that, it just happened, but according to these novax I’d be a mutant by now. Also people stopped talking about it, the only people who still insist on the covid thing are these novax conspiracy nuts.
My cousin ranted about COVID and evil masks and Fauci. He then started talking about how he installs 5g antennas for a living and is blown away that people believe conspiracy theories about 5g, and how sometimes his favorite news programs bad mouth 5g, but they’re ignorant and should listen to experts. I lost a little hope that day.
On the other hand, I can imagine that if one has fallen into the conspiracy rabbit hole, not done anything to reduce risk like getting vaccines or masking, or even going out of your way to avoid taking those precautions, then losing some family members to covid might make doing those mental gymnastics much easier. Because if one admitted one was wrong after such a thing happened, that would also mean accepting the idea that one might be partially responsible for the deaths of one’s own family members, and that is such an awful truth to accept that I can easily imagine someone desperately clinging to any belief that would make it not so, regardless of how absurd it was. Indeed, the longer one hangs on to it afterwards, the worse one’s actions look once you abandon the conspiracy theory, and so the motivation to cling to that belief no matter the evidence just would get stronger.
My boss lost his sense of smell (it’s been over a year). He copes by saying he’s never been much of a foodie! He tells employees not to take covid tests.
They withheld any information about C-19 to US citizens until into 2020. Yet I found myself sick with ‘influenza’ for Christmas 2019.
That was the closest thing worth calling a ‘hoax’, the fact that it came out in 2019, but the US public wasn’t even made aware of it until later into 2020.
By then people were already sick, and it was spreading out of control. Lockdown was about a joke at that point, they waited too long for lockdown to do a damn thing.
BTW, it didn’t affect me any worse than any other case of a strong cold or the flu, though I totally realize it affected others differently.
I definitely heard about it on NPR in Christmas 2019. Not invalidating your experience, but I definitely heard about it on NPR. People were watching it
Can’t say I’ve ever heard of NPR before today, might have been handy to know before I decided to go to the hospital over a large cyst on December 19, 2019, that’s probably where I got it.
Anyways, from Wikipedia…
“The World Health Organization declared the COVID-19 outbreak a Public Health Emergency of International Concern on 30 January 2020, and a pandemic on 11 March 2020.”
By then I had already got it and had already recovered. When I finally heard about it on the news, I was like ‘well ain’t that fucking cute, a day late and a dollar short’
Live in the US. I saw the news covering it in 2019 and showing footage of people passing out in China. China was the one downplaying it to the world back then.
I have a cousin who still insists that her mom died of pneumonia and that it wasn’t COVID. Her husband is currently in prison for storming the capitol on January 6th, which tells you all you need to know. It’s weird because she’s the only one in my extended family who’s even remotely into far right craziness.
I wish. They still protest against the lockdowns every saturday down here in Melbs. You know, the lockdowns that are long over. But they want those freedoms that aren’t being restricted in any way, shape or form, dammit!
I’ve seen the anti-vaxxers out and about. They have all these photos of people on little sticks and you think it’s going to be people who allegedly died of vaccines, but when you get up close it’s all stuff like “Marie had the Moderna vaccine. A day later she sprained her ankle climbing down off a horse.” “John had a sniffly nose a few weeks after Pfizer.”
“I know people who got the vaccine and died right after”
Ok. And I know 1,000,000x more people that didn’t get the vaccine and died from COVID. Even if they died from the vaccine (they didn’t), the vaccine is safer.
There is genuinely a small percentage of the population who is severely allergic to the vaccine. It happened to someone I know. She didn’t die of course - but yeah, was in hospital for a while and couldn’t take the subsequent shots after that first one. It was pretty rough.
Happily, the vaccines were administered in the presence of health professionals with a proper plan in-place especially to deal with these cases. They’re aren’t jabbing people with cow medicine they bought off the black market in their own back yards.
Allegedly there are two known instances of people in the US dying due to complications from the vaccine, though one of them wasn’t the mRNA vaccine that the anti-vaxxers were most scared of. Compare that to the over 1 million people who died from COVID.
I would even bet that she wasn’t allergic to the scary-sounding part of the vaccine, the mRNA. I would bet it was something like the fats the vaccine mRNA was suspended in, or the sugar/acid stabilizers in the solution that made up the majority of the liquid.
I am not medical at all, so don’t take me as any kind of expert. But it would have been Pfizer - the first shot 40-somethings in Australia received. Is that one even mRNA based?
In laws were making noises about ivermectin, we actually managed to knock that one square on the head when we casually mentioned “Oh yeah, that’s the stuff we used to give our rats” looooool
Now they have their “say no to the voice” rally with actual literal Nazi’s. I mean conspiracy theory territory can get alt-right very quickly but to have actual Nazi’s at your rally… You fucked up.
Honestly at this point you need to send some mental health professionals after them. They clearly aren’t doing well and lockdowns broke something. Given the state of mental healthcare in Australia though good fuckin’ luck.
My ex-stepdad was (supposedly from his mouth but I went no contact with him once he left) a huge conspiracy theory person. Vaccines cause Autism, Alex Jones was a huge presence in my house, anti-anything left of centre. Funny thing is, he’s Canadian. But when he spoke to my mum about something she had contacted him about, he mentioned to her how the last lockdown at the time was what did it for him. And now he’s “supposedly” not a massive conspiracy theorist nut job. So what I’m trying to say is, yes, I agree, we need mental health professionals working with these people. Because if I can go off my ex-stepdad and his problems, then I’m sure there’s a large majority of these dickheads who are probably of similar or worse mental health.
I’ve got some of this lot on my LinkedIn, of all places, all hoping to one day stop being openforwork by non-stop posting conspiracy theories where potential employers can see it. Their latest thing is that they saw The Hunger Games and decided that 15 minute cities means walled-off districts rather than simply not having to drive everywhere to get what you need.
This is how it works now. Anything suggested to make the system a little bit better will piled on by arguments that make no sense, and don’t even seem to be attacking the actual idea.
The bad part is that otherwise sensible people allow it because it’s “rUdE” to say that loudly proclaiming that your neighborhood will be walled off forever is patently stupid.
The worse part is those same otherwise sensible people have zero qualm having a damned cow on you if you mention increasing public transit or Healthcare and all of a sudden don’t mind at all saying an idea is fucking stupid. 🤷
It’s amazing to imagine an oppressive government wanting everyone to wear masks forever without a religious demand for modesty. Like you have surveillance that relies on facial recognition.
It’s crazy how if we had all managed to stay away from each other for roughly a month, we might have eradicated the flu and possibly the common cold as well.
I mean if you also separated all the other animals that can get the flu from each other, including most mamals and birds, then sure, you might be able to get rid of the flu that way, but good luck actually doing that.
COVID mortality basically dropped to a rarity with the vaccine. You can also check public data and see the population of non vaccinated against vaccinated. There is plenty of data to show the vaccines are working. Don’t trust the talking heads, check for yourself!
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