queermunist

queermunist, 6 months ago

The flood of new users overwhelmed the existing culture for online forums and the ability to enforce existing norms.

That’s not really true, in hindsight.

The real problem was that the tools for enforcing existing norms and protecting forum culture didn’t exist yet. Look around today, though, and you can certainly find forums and boards and other online spaces where a distinct culture exists and its norms are enforced.

queermunist, 6 months ago (edited 6 months ago)

“Never Again”

queermunist, 6 months ago

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queermunist, 6 months ago

banned on Reddit in 2019 for fascist propaganda

lol is this what you think happened?

queermunist, 6 months ago

I mean, the blackout helped lemmy take off and reach a huge audience that I’m not sure it would have ever had before.

queermunist, 6 months ago

With Zionists every accusation is a confession.

queermunist, 6 months ago

China providing full employment to Uighurs: genocide

Israel committing war crimes on a captive population: ???

queermunist, 6 months ago

Dronies stay mad 😎

queermunist, 6 months ago

Just told me to shut up for being a “tankie”

tbh it was nbd they didn’t need to remove it lol

queermunist, 6 months ago

Hong Kong is fine 🙄

queermunist, 6 months ago

That booch shit is gross dude 😒

queermunist, 6 months ago

There can be nothing new or original out of AI because all of its inputs are stolen from what already exists. Real creativity comes solely from humans. Also, that clip - the song, singing, and visual - is dreadful in every way.

This needs to be hammered into techbro’s heads until they shut the fuck up about the so-called “AI” revolution.

queermunist, 6 months ago

I’m sorry, anyone who says these so-called “AI” are capable of creativity are being hoodwinked by marketing. This is an algorithmic probability engine, it doesn’t think and it doesn’t have an imagination. It just regurgitates probabilistic responses from its large data set.

queermunist, 6 months ago

I’m excited for how these tools will be used by human creators to accomplish things they could never do alone, and in that aspect it is a revolutionary technology. I hate that their marketing calls it “AI” though, the only intelligence involved is the human user that creates prompts and curates results.

queermunist, 6 months ago

“Roomba in the style of Van Gogh” is a new combination of existing things, but it can never create something truly original. Derivative.

queermunist, 6 months ago

I would never call an actual technician a techbro! Techbros are Rick&Morty ledditor “fuck yeah science!” dorks.

queermunist, 6 months ago

The human imagination also involves the phenomenal experience. You do not just record the data coming at you and regurgitate it, you experience it and then your experience further changes the data itself. We call this “subjectivity” and it’s where creativity comes from.

I am not saying that machine creativity is impossible. What I’m saying is these LLMs are not creative because they don’t even know what they’re doing and they don’t even know “they” are doing it. There’s no “there” there. No more creative than rolling dice.

queermunist, 6 months ago

And here come the techbros to dehumanize themselves.

You and I feel. We don’t just generate outputs from inputs, we experience them. The color red isn’t just a datapoint recorded by photoreceptors, it’s a phenomenal experience that “I”, the self, experience as a being-in-the-world. Further, the color red that I experience is not the same as the color red you experience, even though it’s the same color at the same wavelength. Everything we think and feel relates to everything else, and while I can imagine how you might experience the color red and you can provide me with data points to make it easier for me to imagine it, that imagination will always be tainted by my own subjective experience.

queermunist, 6 months ago

Good job tearing down that strawman! 🙄

queermunist, 6 months ago

Experience is ongoing learning through the subjective self. When you experience the color red you do not just record it with your photoreceptors, and your experience of the color red is different from mine because we don’t just record wavelengths of light. We don’t just continue to learn from continual exposure to new data, we also continue to learn from generating our own data. In this way our subjective experience is qualitative, not simply quantitative. I don’t just see the specific light wavelengths, I experience the “redness” of red.

When LLM is trained on that kind of data it just starts to hallucinate. This is promising! I think the hallucination phenomenon is actually a precursor to creativity and gives us great insights into the nature of subjective experience. In a sense, my phenomenal experience of the color red is actually much like a hallucination where I am also able to experience the color’s “warmth” and “boldness”. Subjectivity.

queermunist, 6 months ago

LLMs aren’t intelligent. They’re jumped up chatbots lol

queermunist, 6 months ago

What I’m saying is LLMs do not actually do that. They’re less creative than most animals, even if they’re more technically capable.

I’m not just a meat calculator, I’m also feedback loop of meat endlessly calculating itself. That’s what subjectivity is. When LLMs do this they hallucinate, and ironically while this is considered undesirable I think that’s actually closer to creativity than the song this AI wrote.

queermunist, 6 months ago

I don’t think I’d actually call that shallow thought “creativity”.

Think of a word association game. I don’t think the first word that pops up in my head is creative at all, it’s just a thoughtless reaction.

That’s what LLMs are doing. Without that reflection and depth it’s just a direct input->output

queermunist, 6 months ago

I put “AI” in scare quotes specifically because I do not believe we are having an “AI revolution”. These are not AI.

I think AI can exist but that’s not what we have right now. What we have are jumped up algos that can somewhat fake it.

queermunist, 6 months ago

I’m so sorry you feel that way.

queermunist, 6 months ago

the statement “real creativity comes solely from humans” Needs Citation.

Yeah, I’d actually make a more limited statement. Real creativity requires the subjective experience and the ability to generate inputs solely from subjectivity i.e. experience the redness of the color red. AI could definitely do that, which is why LLMs are not AI imo

queermunist, 6 months ago

I believe a real AI would be able to generate its own inputs without humans to give it input. It would have an actual subjective experience, able to actually imagine new things with zero external inputs. It could experience the redness of the color red.

queermunist, 6 months ago

When an LLM feeds on its own outputs, though, it quickly starts to hallucinate. I think this is actually closer to creativity, but it betrays the fundamental flaw behind the technology - it does not think about its own thoughts and requires a curator to help it create.

I’ll believe something is an AI when it can be its own curator and not drive itself insane.

queermunist, 6 months ago

I see it an more an inability to analyze, evaluate, and edit.

I believe that’s vital to the creative process, but yeah, I basically agree.

queermunist, 6 months ago

The very fact that “babies have some sort of spark before they learn anything from other people” shows there’s something missing.

I think intelligence requires the ability to think about your own thoughts and then draw new conclusions. LLMs can’t do that.

queermunist, 6 months ago

Without humans to curate the inputs and outputs, LLMs hallucinate and go insane. I think this is the precursor to creativity, but they need the ability to curate themselves (i.e. the ability to think about their own thoughts) before I’ll call them intelligences.

queermunist, 6 months ago

current LLMs and ML don’t understand concepts, which is their main issue

This is a relevant issue to the question!

If I take a dose of LSD and paint the colors I hallucinate, is that creative? I’d argue it’s not.

Only when I, the subjective self, curate my own thoughts and sensations can I engage in a creative process. I can think about my own thoughts without going insane (how do the colors make me feel, what do the colors mean?) and that’s a fundamental part of creativity and intelligence. Conceptualization is key to subjectivity.

I don’t think this is far off. I just don’t think we’re there, either, and we should be skeptical of marketing hype.

queermunist, 6 months ago

Anyone who has had discontinuation syndrome knows the experience of “brain zaps” - basically feels like an electric shock toy going off inside your head somewhere behind your eyes/sinuses. Is it anything like that?

queermunist, 6 months ago

I don’t think copyright should exist, but as long as it does I lean towards “no” because AI images are just copying with extra steps imo

queermunist, 6 months ago

Well yeah, the ones who defend Israel support its terrorism. They love it when Palestinian men, women, and children die.

queermunist, 6 months ago

The same as I do now, because that’s my deepest neurotic fear. 😄

queermunist, 6 months ago

How? There’s multiple lanes of traffic I need to cross to get to the door!

queermunist, 6 months ago

I actually have no idea how to solve this issue. Maybe a government buy-back or something? I can see pig farmers doing the same thing if we ever succeeded on that front.

queermunist, 6 months ago

Combining with /u/[email protected]

Pay families to adopt one dog by giving them all the support they need to care for and love their rescue pet.

queermunist, 6 months ago

Yeah Israel strictly controls coverage of their war on Gaza and subjects all footage to military review. It’s fucked.

queermunist, 6 months ago

I’m aware but tbh unless that’s actually connected to a wider tunnel network it’s still just a large basement.

queermunist, 6 months ago

I’m sure once they’ve had time to build a “Hamas command center” they’ll show us pictures to prove that their war crimes were justified.

queermunist, 6 months ago

China isn’t in the habit of bombing cities into mass graves so kinda different.

queermunist, 6 months ago

Well it seems like they’re trying to push Gaza’s refugees into Egypt, so they might have a final solution to the Palestinian question.

queermunist, 6 months ago

I would say the concept of genocide didn’t really exist before the concept of the nation-state, which is a relatively recent development that happened to coincide with the so-called “discovery” of the New World. That’s hardly the USA’s invention though! Europe pioneered the concept and used it to colonize all over the world.

queermunist, 6 months ago

lol okay yeah, started within the last 1000 years

queermunist, 6 months ago

No, cracker, you are not the victim of racism.