rip_art_bell, to firefox in YouTube Says New 5-Second Video Load Delay Is Supposed to Punish Ad Blockers, Not Firefox Users
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The Enshittification* of everything continues

  • pluralistic.net/2023/01/21/potemkin-ai/-guys
wubsbian, to random

Today I decided to check on my small Bionicle parts for the first time after moving since I'm considering getting more. Ended up putting together a creachure and curing my depression.

gabboman,

@wubsbian editing is hell but yeah is on the roadmap

-I-have-to-tell-everyone-who-has-seen-your-post -this-is-the-new-post -aaaaa

Rolando, to memes in Then and now

before Google exploited the popularity

A classic example of enshittification stage 1 and 2, for those unfamiliar with the term.

CharlesMangione, to privacy in Meta payment message

Enshittification happened.

Here is how platforms die: first, they are good to their users; then they abuse their users to make things better for their business customers; finally, they abuse those business customers to claw back all the value for themselves. Then, they die.

Camus, to france in «Je trouve ça scandaleux» : le ras-le-bol des Français face à la hausse des prix des Netflix, Spotify ou Disney+
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C’est effectivement l’emmerdification: pluralistic.net/2023/01/21/potemkin-ai/-guys

zero_gravitas, to technology in Reddit is removing ability to opt out of ad personalization based on your activity on the platform

Here is how platforms die: first, they are good to their users; then they abuse their users to make things better for their business customers; finally, they abuse those business customers to claw back all the value for themselves. Then, they die.

I call this enshittification, and it is a seemingly inevitable consequence arising from the combination of the ease of changing how a platform allocates value, combined with the nature of a “two sided market,” where a platform sits between buyers and sellers, holding each hostage to the other, raking off an ever-larger share of the value that passes between them.

From pluralistic.net/2023/01/21/potemkin-ai/-guys

massive_bereavement, to lemmyshitpost in And now Bezos is trying to insert ads everywhere
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I present to thee enshittification.

admin, to technology in The enshittification marches on – use Signal [WhatsApp]
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How do you define enshittification?

I don’t. I use Doctorows definition.

If anything, if you prefer signal to WhatsApp (I do), you should be happy with its enshittification - because that means it’s killing itself. But it’s not, and it’s already shit, and its users are okay with that.

adding paid promotions to something that never had them is always the beginning

  • They’re not paid
  • They’re not promotions
  • It’s opt-in

It’s basically a way to keep up with events you’re already interested in (your favourite band, local soccer club, etc). You’re complaining about an optional feature you don’t want to use, that doesn’t even exist yet, and misrepresent it as ads.

UlyssesT, to technology in Internet developments have gone from exciting to dreadful.

Optimization is the natural path of all things commercial

That’s an enshittified way of describing enshittification.

pluralistic.net/2023/01/21/potemkin-ai/-guys

UlyssesT, to technology in Internet developments have gone from exciting to dreadful.

Enshittification will continue until passion improves.

pluralistic.net/2023/01/21/potemkin-ai/-guys

ICastFist, to technology in It's not just you — no one is posting on social media anymore
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Yup, here’s the tasty salsa - pluralistic.net/2023/01/21/potemkin-ai/-guys

cygnosis, to mildlyinfuriating in "Sponsored recommendations": I pay for Spotify Premium, and yet somehow I'm still the product?

Enshittification in action.

“Here is how platforms die: first, they are good to their users; then they abuse their users to make things better for their business customers; finally, they abuse those business customers to claw back all the value for themselves. Then, they die.”

Facebook, TikTok, Amazon, it’s everywhere. Once a platform has lock-in from users it turns its attention to vendors. Then once they’re locked in it rakes in the profits until nobody can tolerate it any more and something else takes its place.

12 reasons to stop using Goodreads - selected by Goodreads staff (help.goodreads.com)

It could be kind of lame to poke fun at a site that I don’t use (anymore), but I find this funny enough to share: Goodreads has started changing and updating their site last year, but apparently they’ve broken a ton of things in the process, and now they’ve published an announcement with the list of 12 bugs they’re...

Sinnerman, to books in 12 reasons to stop using Goodreads - selected by Goodreads staff

But what are the chances that StoryGraph will undergo enshittification?

pimeys, to mildlyinfuriating in YouTube recomending shorts above videos to premium
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If you haven’t already, read the article Tiktok’s enshittification from Cory Doctorow. This is enshittification in action what YouTube is doing.

Anonymouse, to technology in Meta to end news access in Canada over publisher payment law (The Guardian)

Based on my limited understanding after reading one article and listening to one talk show on public radio, the issue seems to be that the “tech giants” are displaying full (or nearly full) articles from news outlets without providing revenue to the content creator or links to the original article. If all news outlets disallowed full article replication through copywrite or other legal means, this whole thing would be over, but that’s hard to organize, so they ask the government to help.

To say that the tech giants are providing advertisements isn’t a fair representstill. They’re providing the whole product. The process of how we got here is outlined in Cory Doctrow’s “enshittification” essay. (I’d copy and paste the whole essay here just for irony’s sake, but I’m feeling lazy.

I’m not quite sure how to feel about this whole thing, especially when you consider that public libraries are doing the same thing.

narwhal, to reddit in Now that the dust has settled, what went wrong with saving 3rd party apps?

Nothing went wrong. Reddit’s desire to monetize simply trumps everything.

We were witnessing enshittification process in full force.

scribs, to memes in Internet in 2023 be like
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here’s the actual link and not the Wired reupload: pluralistic.net/2023/01/21/potemkin-ai/-guys

scubbo, to memes in Internet in 2023 be like

You’re both wrong, this is the real link: https://pluralistic.net/2023/01/21/potemkin-ai/#hey-guys

ChaoticNeutralCzech, to fediverse in Is lemmy growth coming to a halt?
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Depending on his share of the company (which may change after going public), he might be forced to resign. However, I don’t think that would reverse the process as he apparently surrounded himself with like-minded people (similarly, Neal Mohan continued Susan Wojcicki’s work as well)and the movement towards profitability at all costs and https://pluralistic.net/2023/01/21/potemkin-ai/#hey-guys is natural course of action for the company following its bottom line.

ajsadauskas, to technology
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Hi, we're a tech startup run by libertarian Silicon Valley tech bros.

We're not a newspaper, we're a content portal.
We're not a taxi service, we're a ride sharing app.
We're not a pay TV service, we're a streaming platform.
We're not a department store, we're an e-commerce marketplace.
We're not a financial services firm, we're crypto.
We're not a space agency, we're a group of visionaries who are totally going to Mars next year.
We're not a copywriting and graphic design agency, we're a large language model generative AI platform.

Oh sure, we compete against those established businesses. We basically provide the same goods and services.

But we're totally not those things. At least from a legal and PR standpoint.

And that means all the laws and regulations that have built up over the decades around those industries don't apply to us.

Things like consumer protections, privacy protections, minimum wage laws, local content requirements, safety regulations, environmental protections... They totally don't apply to us.

Even copyright laws — as long as we're talking about everyone else's intellectual property.

We're going to move fast and break things — and then externalise the costs of the things we break.

We've also raised several billion in VC funding, and we'll sell our products below cost — even give them away for free for a time — until we run our competition out of the market.

Once we have a near monopoly, we'll enshitify the hell out of our service and jack up prices.

You won't believe what you agreed to in our terms of service agreement.

We may also be secretly hoarding your personal information. We know who you are, we know where you work, we know where you live. But you can trust us.

By the time the regulators and the general public catch on to what we're doing, we will have well and truly moved on to our next grift.

By the way, don't forget to check out our latest innovation. It's the Uber of toothpaste!

@technology

Idontoah,

Here’s the source of that term. pluralistic.net/2023/01/21/potemkin-ai/-guys

Excellent article.

zurohki, to technology in Over just a few months, ChatGPT went from correctly answering a simple math problem 98% of the time to just 2%, study finds

Stage one and stage three enshittification. You forgot the bit in the middle where they chase business customers.

Evergreen5970, to technology in The Coming War on General Computation [2011]

I’ve seen this guy’s stuff floating around on the Fediverse recently—first the enshittification article and now this. Seems pretty interesting, thank you for sharing!

Kichae, to reddit in Here's How Reddit F**ks Advertisers

That's stage 3 enshitification for you.

A clear victory for the free fediverse: Meta now says integrating with ActivityPub is "a long way out" (privacy.thenexus.today)

When Meta launched their new Twitter competitor Threads on July 5, they said that it would be compatible with the ActivityPub protocol, Mastodon, and all the other decentralized social networks in the fediverse "soon"....

Elevator7009, (edited ) to fediverse in A clear victory for the free fediverse: Meta now says integrating with ActivityPub is "a long way out"

So you want the users, but not them to enshittify it

What I meant by “enshittification” is this:

This is enshittification: Surpluses are first directed to users; then, once they're locked in, surpluses go to suppliers; then once they're locked in, the surplus is handed to shareholders and the platform becomes a useless pile of shit.

The linked article explains it a lot better with a specific example in my opinion, but the example is pretty long, so I just provided the quick definition from the article.

I am very much not talking about “oh no the normies are coming, polluting our beautiful pure place with memes and innocent questions about how things work that we superior people already understand.” I am also not talking about people I think are shitty, you handle that by defederating instances with a high volume of shitty people and blocking and reporting the shitty people you still come across. I really shouldn’t have said

Only gatekeep the place from people who will try to enshittify it

because what I actually meant here was gatekeeping it from corporations who will try to enshittify it. Like Meta. I misspoke and I apologize for that.

[enshittification process] They Don't Want Us And We Don't Need Them | Defector (defector.com)

The piece argues that many tech companies and media businesses have turned against their users in an attempt to extract more value. Executives like David Zaslav are criticized for their cynical approach that aims to drain the culture’s “dream reserve” for profit. This enshittification process happens when platforms abuse...

JustBrian7872, to technology in [enshittification process] They Don't Want Us And We Don't Need Them | Defector

Agreed, in the text the original article is linked where Cory Doctorow coined the term enshittification - I enjoyed reading that article.

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