SameOldJorts, to asklemmy in Defederate from threads/meta

Enshitification. pluralistic.net/2023/01/21/potemkin-ai/#hey-guys

Are lots of websites really going downhill and/or closing or does it just seem like it to me? (kbin.social)

Like many people I'm here because of reddit going to shit. Twitter has increasingly been shit. gycat is shutting down in September. To me it seems like lots of bastions of social media are crumpling, but as a previous active reddit user, I've been personally effected. Is this just a frequency illusion or has something changed in...

nothingcorporate, to tech in Are lots of websites really going downhill and/or closing or does it just seem like it to me?

This is the enshittification of the Internet. Cory Doctorow wrote about it here: https://pluralistic.net/2023/01/21/potemkin-ai/#hey-guys and it explains why this was always going to happen.

ccunix, to nostupidquestions in Why all of a sudden tech companies are not being favorable to their users?

Original on Cory Doctorow’s own site here

theothermatt_b, to nostupidquestions in Why all of a sudden tech companies are not being favorable to their users?
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Another step in the enshittification cycle just happened to affect three companies that you noticed at the same time.

Another day, another big website taking steps to make their user experience actively worse.

pluralistic.net/2023/01/21/potemkin-ai/-guys

HuskyTranslator, to RedditMigration in What’s with social media companies trying to destroy themselves recently?
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It's the inevitable enshitification of platforms due to capitalism, explained here: https://pluralistic.net/2023/01/21/potemkin-ai/#hey-guys better than I ever could

Yewb, to news in IMF reports inflation driven by corporate profits

My thesis is amazons fucked up business practices driving a significant portion of inflation.

Read this

https://pluralistic.net/2023/01/21/potemkin-ai/#hey-guys

Great read

shepherd, to kbinMeta in Is kbin.social anti-corporation? Should it be?
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@Biscuit Right!?

This is a slight tangent now, but Tik Tok's Enshitification by Corey Doctorow describes another great example of long-timeline corporate "playbooks" or patterns that are... not good but increasingly common. That's where Reddit seems to be going unfortunately, but at least we can see why.

elvith, to technology in Discord is opening the monetization floodgates: get ready for microtransaction stores and paid 'exclusive memes'

Or as Cory Doctorow calls it - "Enshittification". They're now in the second stage - open the gates for other companies to market to Discord users:

Here is how platforms die: first, they are good to their users; then they abuse their users to make things better for their business customers; finally, they abuse those business customers to claw back all the value for themselves. Then, they die.

I call this enshittification, and it is a seemingly inevitable consequence arising from the combination of the ease of changing how a platform allocates value, combined with the nature of a "two sided market," where a platform sits between buyers and sellers, holding each hostage to the other, raking off an ever-larger share of the value that passes between them.

https://pluralistic.net/2023/01/21/potemkin-ai/#hey-guys

Milan, to RedditMigration in Is this the beginning of the next tech bubble bursting?

"enshittication" is actually a term coined by Cory Doctorow in this article: https://pluralistic.net/2023/01/21/potemkin-ai/#hey-guys

It's a great read.

Why does it feel like we're at a point where every social media + other digital media are making shitty decisions and falling apart?

I mean there's Reddit ofc, as well as Twitter in its entirety, Discord is implementing some dumb updates, there are issues with Tumblr as well as everything to do with Meta, and I'm sure there are plenty more (and I haven't even touched other digital media, for example the Sims). Why is it all happening in the span of about a...

wrath-sedan, to nostupidquestions in Why does it feel like we're at a point where every social media + other digital media are making shitty decisions and falling apart?
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As a phenomenon you'll see a lot of people call it "enshittification." The term seems to originate with Cory Doctorow who writes, "Here is how platforms die: first, they are good to their users; then they abuse their users to make things better for their business customers; finally, they abuse those business customers to claw back all the value for themselves. Then, they die."

The whole article on his blog is worth a read here: https://pluralistic.net/2023/01/21/potemkin-ai/#hey-guys. His Mastodon handle is @pluralistic if you'd like to follow his work there (woohoo federation!).

DocMcStuffin, to nostupidquestions in Why does it feel like we're at a point where every social media + other digital media are making shitty decisions and falling apart?
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They’ve also made a lot of shitty decisions. Reddit decided to invest in NFTs when they had cheap money. That’s been about as successful as a lead balloon. That also burned a bunch of user good will in the process. Meta went all in on VR and the Metaverse. They’ve admitted that’s been a bust. This seems more like an A and B with A being cheap money evaporating and B being bad decisions.

I’m reluctant to call the latest Reddit thing enshittification, but it really seems like they’re between steps 2 and 3.

On a slightly different note, does any think enshittification will be the word of the year?

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