In another thread, I read a user’s comment about how the lemmy experience has got progressively worse over the past few months, with a lot more trash content making it to their front page....
I haven’t seen the experience getting worse. I am amazed by the amount of shitposting subs in the all feed but it’s not a lot of effort to scroll past them.
One thing i have noticed is that folks have lost their welcoming demeanor from the initial migration and a lot more argumentative or fringe communities are highly ranked on the all feed. And users who comment something that isn’t 100% behind the prevailing belief on Lemmy will get piled on the same as Reddit. I was hoping that Lemmy would be more open to all sorts of discourse but that doesn’t seem to be the case.
FuckCars or antiwork don’t bother me, but they aren’t the kind of topics that someone who is coming from a middle of the road perspective are going to appreciate. Even more so for the full on communist communities on Lemmy.ml or others.
I think these communities deserve their voice and don’t have a problem with them hitting the all feed, I just wish they were a little less aggressive with labeling other people as trolls and downvoting or insulting them when on other instances and communities
Back in the old read it days, I would browse the local meetup subs to join events and small social outings locally - but since I’m not using that platform anymore I’m a bit lost on find about local social gatherings. I would attend r posting of bar hopping, cinema groups, and park picnics around my town; however, I can’t...
I thought I might leave Reddit entirely, but then I realized this as well. So I have taken to posting some things exclusively here, some very few things also there, and when I do post there I post here first then just share the link.
On the other hand, keeping in mind that my "here" is Kbin not Lemmy, I've more or less ceased most of my encouragement to try to get people to join b/c of all the bugs that have been present - some of which seem fixed now but overall the set of features present in Kbin is very much behind Lemmy, which is itself enormously behind Reddit still. It makes sense: people were "hopeful" about Kbin/Lemmy, but to actually realize that hope has been slow going. And that too makes sense: Ernst has had family issues that MUST take priority, although it has greatly slowed down integrations of fixes that others have offered into the main code, for a time. And too there is the fact that Kbin, like many Lemmy instances, has been under DDOS attack. These things take time to develop even under the most ideal circumstances, and all the more so in the face of such challenges. Overall, Kbin is still alpha version software at this point.
And even Lemmy is still just a beta version. e.g. just to name one example: you still cannot migrate from one instance to another across the Fediverse, so whatever instance you choose to join is basically a permanent decision - like if you ask all your friends to come with you from Reddit and then jump ship yet again, you risk alienating them by leaving them behind as you hop around looking for the greenest grass. Joining instances here is nothing at all like casually joining subs on Reddit - they will need to learn all about that, and what it means, and how to curate their experiences here, etc.
In comparison, for now at least old-reddit or even new-reddit on a mobile browser with ad-blocking meets many people's needs, especially with "everyone" more or less remaining behind on Reddit, and it is a tough sell to try to tell them to give all that up for an objectively worse UI/UX experience (the cost-to-benefit tradeoff is worthwhile to us, but is it to them?). At this point, those with the "early adopter" mindset are already here, and more importantly the content creators have already made their choices too. (Though if Reddit kills off old-reddit, that could change things in a BIG way)
I am not saying that there would be no value in such outreach initiatives, just that they have already happened and yet here we are. At this point it may be worth looking into the reasons why people who already know about Lemmy/Kbin have not chosen to come here. And on some level we just need to be okay with the fact that we are likely going to be small for a long time, especially as the code continues to be developed to help it catch up.
Unless Threads causes things to change much more quickly... which it very well could.
I want Lemmy to grow, but nobody I recommend it to is particularly interested. My husband thinks it’s really no better than 4chan or reddit. He’s never been a fan of either. He feels that the people here are too high handed and snobby and considering that 4chan has a better time dealing with trolls and (tankies) problem users because it’s hard to stalk someone on a completely anonymous web site he just feels like we’ll end up going up like a flash in a pan. Here one day gone the next. I hope he isn’t right but I also do see my fair share of what he’s talking about. We aren’t nearly as welcoming as we make ourselves out to be.
Quality is subjective. But there’s always gonna be some slag in the smelting pot. Pretending we can make a community that’s free of all of Reddit’s problems is kind of foolish.
On the other hand communities don’t just spring up over night. The kind of quality the majority of people say they want happens organically and I don’t think we can rush that. I do think that people with message boards or discords could migrate here and start their own instance or subs. That would be a good way to grow the community.
they’re using are going to be flooded with mirrored Reddit
Only if someone set this up to mirror some large subreddit, which would be frankly stupid: the service still requires a reddit API key and they would quickly go over the limits of the free tier if they pulled data from the larger subs, also instances that would be flooding other communities would quickly be banned.
This is why I am being very careful about setting this up. I am not going to set these bots to any community unless I get explicit approval from the admins and mods, and I am not going to create mirrors from any subreddit with more than 250k subscribers.
I think the use case you have in mind (creating mirror instances of niche sub) can be achived with this system, but then you’d have to run your own lemmy instance - or at least use one where you can create communities and the instance admins are welcoming to bots…
Something a bit similar to what lemmit is already doing, but more powerful with your addition of comments: read-only, best-of archives of really old content from popular subs.
10-5 year old askreddit posts for instance would be interesting blasts from the past to read today. Isn’t there already a ‘best of Reddit’ convention on Reddit itself that resurfaces such content from time to time?
I can’t stand /r/piracy anymore. it has devolved into… what’s a torrent? is this site ok? what country doesn’t care about piracy? its clear a lot of the older pirates have left. but I can’t find them. not sire how big this community is but the news post I see is 4 days old…
Since my favorite reddit app came to Lemmy I’m really keen on getting more people into the fediverse to pump up the volume of content around here. Are there any initiatives that we can assist to get folks onboard?...
I like a lot of the communities on that instance, but every once in a while I just get hit with a random wave of toxicity by them for no reason. For example, there was a post asking which communities from Reddit do you wish existed on Lemmy, and I answered honestly saying more car related communities as they are one of my...
Hi, do you think lemmy would be as popular as Reddit ? I mean, many subreddits have much more posts compared to communities on lemmy… sometimes I scroll through Reddit sub top of month and see no end. At lemmy mostly I see 10 posts monthly… I do like concept of moving to lemmy, but it might make no sense if people’s are no...
Just came in from reddit, so from a newbie point of view so far so good, altho the content and users are not as expanded as reddit i think its a matter of time. people are haphazardly looking for alternatives and the only reason people stay is because of the interaction. I for instance immediately tried looking up the threads i was subbed to reddit as well. Its there just not as big and ill gladly trade it in instead of dealing with reddit any longer.
Some Lemmings are extremely right. That is the norm on any other social media too. Luckily they were often contained on a specific instance. What I noticed tho is that at least in my german bubble the view is very, very left. That’s noticeable especially as the consensus of eg. !ich_iel seems to be extremely pro towards protestors of the last generation, which are often criticised in my real life bubble for their actions as they’re seen as too extreme. Could be that my RL bubble is just much more right than I perceive it to be, even after blending out some individuals.
The ich_iel community existed as sub on fuggid too, it was never as left tho. I guess there are much less older and therefore theoretically less tech savvy as well as statistically conservative folks people on Lemmy in general. Conservatives would probably care about new, better platforms anyway.
I have been uploading comic art images by Moebius for several weeks almost daily to the !eurographicnovels community, where I´m a moderator myself. All those images have disappeared. Modlog says the images have been deleted by “admin”. Modlog gives no reason for this but says the images were later restored by “admin”...
We can only construct our working conclusions based on the known information, which is what I’m doing.
Yes, and there is a time-sensitive nature to this stuff that needs to be quickly addressed, starting with the amount of repairs my mod and I will need to coordinate on in order for our sub not to look like a hot mess. Unfortunately, him being in a very different time zone means there’s almost nothing I can do until tomorrow morning.
This would make little difference if the community had low presence and activity, but we now have almost 300 subscribers, are growing fairly quickly by Lemmy standards, and are in the presence of ‘getting the word out.’
I understand your perspective and your seemingly benign intent, but frankly, you’re not helping. Just like instance runners and their staff, we are ALSO volunteers, aiming to serve and support our userbase, as well as doing our part to help make the Fediverse a viable Reddit-alternative. We’ve been working hard on this project, and have every right to feel aggrieved for the stated reasons.
Feel free to have the last reply if you like, but again-- you’re not helping here, and I don’t plan on responding further. Good day.
We are getting closer to the next major release. This version will have many breaking changes, so we are listing them here for app and client developers to adjust their projects....
or maybe some other terminology would be better? lots of people get confused when you ask them to choose an instance, sometimes I think even the word “proxy”, “host”, or “hub” is simpler...
I don't think it's about the term, "server" and "instance" both make sense to me. The issue is that the fediverse itself is pretty confusing.
The basics? Great: it's vaguely "IRC but persistent", all good.
But for starters it's hard to keep track of which instances actually exist - new ones pop up and old ones die at the drop of a hat.
Then there's differences in feature sets (lemmy vs kbin and whatever else) that happen to be ActivityPub compliant or whatever. kbin notably doesn't federate downvotes, for example. And all this software is still relatively immature.
Then there's the actual "who federates/defederates whom and why" debacle. This results in a lot of obvious and some less obvious visibility issues.
Then there's (other) individual instance politics.
Then there's the "meta" about all of this, which is getting confusing.
A couple of these will have parallels on e.g. Reddit - I assume this is the natural comparison to make and will keep being so for a while - like sub drama and the relationship between subs. But because the FV has this at the instance level, (and each instance has many "subs",) it's a whole level up in complexity.
Then there's how all of this makes for a pretty un-reddit-like experience - and Reddit is not the king of polish, either. While Reddit has duplicate subs, it doesn't have a design that almost automatically causes them to be created and distributed, across instances without actually correlating them afterwards. The end result is that subbing or blocking any one community will likely involve doing that manually on several instances, which is stupidly inconvenient. Also discoverability is much trickier which is worsened by the low activity.
My point is: call it what you want, but a) I don't think that's where the confusion is coming from - that's just the fediverse being confusing (and outright clunky in many regards), and b) obligatory XKCD "Standards".
J’préfèrerais plutôt l’inverse, à savoir une communauté dédiée à l’info et les généralistes exemptes d’info.
Le problème, c’est que comme la communauté s’appelle France
les francophones non-Français ne se sentent pas forcément concernés par la communauté
les Français vont avoir tendance à partager leur actualité locale, ce qui semble logique
Actuellement France est beaucoup plus grande que ForumLibre, parce que les gens là trouvent plus facilement et qu’elle rappelle le sub. Par contre, il est possible qu’à un moment donné France et FL aient à peu près le même nombre d’utilisateurs actifs mensuels, et du coup la question de savoir quelle instance est généraliste et laquelle est spécialisée se posera autrement :
Even the head mod of piracy subreddit was ousted from the subreddit for attempting to migrate the sub to a lemmy instance, and the redditors that remain there actually cheered! It’s wild, you would expect pirates, who always at risk of having their subreddit shut down, would understand the need to migrate.
Literally swap the word Fediverse in that pinned post for Lemmy and you’ll get more engagement with it. Because you’re right, even if the current reddit user has heard of lemmy and mastodon, they still most likely don’t know what the fediverse is, don’t understand the site linked to is a lemmy instance / reddit alternative. Subbed to !futurology btw, if the current activity there can be sustained I think it’ll shape up to be a nice community
I almost completely agree with your first and last points. I was trying to say if they provide the same product at the same quality and price try to prefer the co-operative. I say similar because, personally I’d give some leeway to the co-op. But there are limits and co-ops are businesses and if they give sub par products and services than we shouldn’t buy from them.
The power is held by the owners. If it’s a consumer co-operative it is controlled by the consumer and a worker cooperative is owned by the workers. So the end users of products or the ones who have jobs. It depends on how it’s structured.
I somewhat agree with your last point. The big thing is ownership is wealth and control. If you control your store you get to chose the available options if someone else owns it it means someone else has control. So I’d rather I have control over it. Again with the previous thing. If someone else can do it sooo much better than I than I should someone’s product.
But we have to be careful because you can lead to the problem with data and big tech. I use an alternative to Google Cloud that is a cooperative but I have to pay. But with Google I don’t pay but loose my privacy. In that instance you have to determine what’s more important, given what I need it for is comparable to what I need what is important and I chose ownership and privacy over having neither of those.
Realized my family was spending more than $200/mo on streaming and other media sources. Been a while, but I’m sailing the high seas again. Ethically, I agree with “Piracy.” Fuck Disney with a cactus. Functionally, it’s a service problem for me....
Woah, what system did you find? Sounds way simpler than what I’ve figured out. I’ve read posts about capturing traffic from the network tab of the web inspector but I got really mixed results. That does work, but it was enough of a pain that I explored other options.
The system I eventually found was on Android Libby store files from audiobook unencrypted. They try to hide them by splitting books up into lots of files with random names and distributing them across random folders within its data folder. It even includes some junk folders and files to try and throw you off. None of these files have files types/extensions and Libby tacks on .mp3 when it comes time to play them.
How this can be exploited: I have an android device but this can also be done with Windows Subsystem for Android, or really any other android emulator. I have targeted the parent folder to all that with Syncthing and set it as a one way sync. This way whenever audiobook files are added they are copied to one of my other devices and because it’s one way sync when my loan expires those files disappear from the Android instance, but persist on the device I’ve copied them to. Next step is filtering out all the junk files. This is shockingly easy as I just click into the windows file browser search bar and hit enter. This serves to show a list of any file of any name of any type in all sub folders. Then I just sort the results by size. Libby doesn’t bother to make the junk files the same size as the “mp3s” (remember they don’t say .mp3 yet) so it’s easy to just truncate the list when the files stop being in the kilobytes and start being megabytes.
What’s left is a list of file that want to be .mp3. I use a command line based batch renaming tool to add all the endings, and then begins the painful task of listening to each file to find where in the book it’s supposed to go. The splits do not line up with chapters, so it’s sometimes handy to have an ebook copy to search for phrases. I put them in order then load them all into audacity, merge and then use the detect silence tool set to between 2 and 4 seconds to try and detect the chapter breaks. I’ll manually clean up any misplaced breaks, export as individual files and then finally use one of the many audiobook binding tools out there to bundle it all back together. Though I mostly do that when I’m sharing the book with others. My préférée audiobook listening platform tales individual files very nicely, so I can save a step if it’s only for myself.
How has your Lemmy experience changed over the past few months?
In another thread, I read a user’s comment about how the lemmy experience has got progressively worse over the past few months, with a lot more trash content making it to their front page....
Are there any instances similar to the meetup subs (r4r) to meet people or set up gatherings?
Back in the old read it days, I would browse the local meetup subs to join events and small social outings locally - but since I’m not using that platform anymore I’m a bit lost on find about local social gatherings. I would attend r posting of bar hopping, cinema groups, and park picnics around my town; however, I can’t...
reddit r/movies isn't doing too well (old.reddit.com)
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Lemmy instances that are focused on mirroring Reddit content?
I’ve posted before about my fediverser project, and I am now looking to see who is interested in participating....
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I can’t stand /r/piracy anymore. it has devolved into… what’s a torrent? is this site ok? what country doesn’t care about piracy? its clear a lot of the older pirates have left. but I can’t find them. not sire how big this community is but the news post I see is 4 days old…
How can we boost Lemmy membership?
Since my favorite reddit app came to Lemmy I’m really keen on getting more people into the fediverse to pump up the volume of content around here. Are there any initiatives that we can assist to get folks onboard?...
A little rant about lemmy.ml
I like a lot of the communities on that instance, but every once in a while I just get hit with a random wave of toxicity by them for no reason. For example, there was a post asking which communities from Reddit do you wish existed on Lemmy, and I answered honestly saying more car related communities as they are one of my...
Do you think lemmy would be as popular as reddit?
Hi, do you think lemmy would be as popular as Reddit ? I mean, many subreddits have much more posts compared to communities on lemmy… sometimes I scroll through Reddit sub top of month and see no end. At lemmy mostly I see 10 posts monthly… I do like concept of moving to lemmy, but it might make no sense if people’s are no...
[Lemmy active users] 28th of September was the only day with more monthly active Lemmy users than the previous one, probably thanks to the release of Boost for Lemmy (lemmy.fediverse.observer)
Link to the daily stats: lemmy.fediverse.observer/dailystats...
The final nail in Reddit's coffin dropped today:
Dear User,...
Your big brain conservtive/capitalist takes will be laughed at (lemmy.world)
An admin deleted all my uploads and I have no clue why (lemmy.world)
I have been uploading comic art images by Moebius for several weeks almost daily to the !eurographicnovels community, where I´m a moderator myself. All those images have disappeared. Modlog says the images have been deleted by “admin”. Modlog gives no reason for this but says the images were later restored by “admin”...
Lemmy 0.19 Breaking Changes
We are getting closer to the next major release. This version will have many breaking changes, so we are listing them here for app and client developers to adjust their projects....
would it be simpler for people if we said "server" instead of "instance"?
or maybe some other terminology would be better? lots of people get confused when you ask them to choose an instance, sometimes I think even the word “proxy”, “host”, or “hub” is simpler...
Envie d'une communauté moins axée sur l'actualité ? Passez faire un tour sur !forumlibre French
Bonjour à tous,...
Reddit is dead. Long live the Fediverse. (lemmy.ml)
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The mayor’s office says it would be the first major U.S. city to enact such a plan.
Automated ebook advice.
Realized my family was spending more than $200/mo on streaming and other media sources. Been a while, but I’m sailing the high seas again. Ethically, I agree with “Piracy.” Fuck Disney with a cactus. Functionally, it’s a service problem for me....