Imperial_Genesis,
@Imperial_Genesis@lemmy.world avatar

I’m actually looking forward to checking it out on Steam, then I don’t have to fiddle around anymore with Lutris on my Linux box and I can just use Proton normally within Steam itself.

half_built_pyramids,

Quite a treasure you have there in that horadric boob

Carighan,
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

This is really good and really bad news.

On the plusside, it really seems like running Battle.net is not a requirement, and it just logs in the bnet account once ingame. Two thumbs up. More availability and people being able to use Steam as a somewhat sensible launcher instead of the frankly annoying Battle.net, even better.

On the downside, I guess this also confirms beyond the investors call that OW2 is bleeding players quickly - and for good reason, since they’ve shown they cannot handle the fundamental design changes from the switch to 5v5 at all.

InverseParallax,

Ow1 with flexible teams was fine, I get why they added the restrictions, but they didn’t help.

Ow2 is pointless trash.

pory,
@pory@lemmy.world avatar

Overwatch 2 failing is bad news? It’s everything wrong with GAAS development. If it eats shit and dies, the industry can only take away good lessons from it.

Boiglenoight,

I was burned on the notion that I could no longer play Overwatch 1. I have 2 copies, one PC and one PS5, that are just coasters now. Granted things are digital these days, but restoring OW1 would be a good first step.

Blackmist,

They’ll learn lessons, just not the ones we want them to.

RetiredMedic1776,

Considering how poorly their dev’s have been since Activision-Blizztard went woke (around when Vanguard came out) it’s no surprise they are trying to maximize their market. Back when WoW was the undisputed champion of all things MMO’s they never would have considered doing this.

Diablo 4 is garbage, they literally destroyed the concept of seasons that was what kept people playing Diablo 3 for so long.

I’m actually kind of surprised that they aren’t showing up on the Microshaft store first.

JoeyMoo,

I don’t understand what the word woke is supposed to mean here…

tswerts,

I’m not a hardcore gamer but I’m a fan of cloud gaming, first Google Stadia (rip) and later Gforce Now. And Gforce Now supports Steam games so the more games available in the Steam-catalogue, the better.

Katana314,

Well, not all Steam games. Funny thing is, launcher isn’t even totally the barrier to getting a game in GFN; UPlay and Epic have games available in GFN as well. Whenever I’m away from home and decide to use cloud, I mostly end up playing Ubisoft games through them.

ieightpi,

i’d be okay with having diablo on my steam library. too bad i bought them all on battle.net…

Powerpoint,

If it goes how Bethesda did you’ll migrate your library over

Saneless,

That’s what happened to Destiny 2 from battle.net to steam, expansions and all.

But different sitch I guess, Activision was selling the IP

UltraMagnus0001,

The company that makes Doom lets you use steam and allows you to transfer your data.

Hyperi0n,

Microsoft.

EssentialCoffee,

You still have to use Battle.net, so that’s an absolute no-go from me.

Glad they’re giving folks options though.

ProxyZeus,
@ProxyZeus@lemmy.world avatar

You need a battlenet login, but not the launcher

CaptPretentious,

Doesn’t the launcher also double as their anti cheat system? I thought the launcher also managed Warden

ProxyZeus,
@ProxyZeus@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t think so, but also I thought most of ow2 anticheat was serverside

Hyperi0n,

Warden works on Battle.net the server not the launcher. Very few games have Warden.

Syrc,

I love this! Finally there’s going to be actual statistics to see how much their games are actually dying.

Samuraipizzacat,

Bwahahaha. I was already back and forth with wow for the longest time after wotlk but you could see the direction change and I was a huge overwatch fan. It was my new TF2. But damn it was like coming out of childhood and realizing your favorite hero was not who you thought he was. I’m still holding out hope for valve. They aren’t public (I don’t think) and gabe has made some very good business decisions. Not to mention the steam deck has done more to take market away from the guilt windows has on gaming. This is a wild time to be alive.

SimplyATable,

Valve is just about the only company I somewhat trust. Pre-ordered the highest version of the steam deck, and the way they handled the entire development process solidified my faith in them

Samuraipizzacat,

For real, they’re like one of the only companies I know left that just do their thing and not step on anyone’s toes. Also the sly push to Linux gaming from creating the steam deck and having people want to make it compatible. Most my machines are Linux now. I only have 1 gaming windows PC left. I wanna learn by immersion.

SimplyATable,

I’m glad the steam deck took off and actually did well. I think it made a lot of positive changes overall in gaming for linux and handheld consoles. Now I just have to hope they bring back the steam controller

bleepbloopbleep,

Never touched my Blizzard Account again after the sexual harassment and paygap scandal.

I’ve put 15 years of lifetime into my druid… It still hurts a little because I’ve loved WoW for a long time.

So Blizz switching to Steam couldn’t interest me any less.

BakedGoods,

Same after they kowtowed to China about Hong Kong and Taiwan.

Wrench,

Ditto. I won’t even give them usage stats on games I had previously purchased. Nothing to take to the board and say “we have returning users that we hope to convert into sales!”

Nacktmull,
@Nacktmull@lemmy.world avatar

Such a shame that nobody cares - because Blizzard has been irrelevant for a long time

Kerred,

Isn’t Diablo 4 one of the top profitable games this year (if you include extra transactions), and are there deets on how much Overwatch 2 makes in a month?

Naturally gamers here don’t care, but I imagine much like Madden or Fifa the mainstream buys tons of Blizzard stuff.

When I did in home jobs decades ago there were quite a few people who played Warcraft and not even remotely familiar with other games let alone how to use their PCs

pizzatime,

your last sentence still sums up wow players decades later

Kerred,

Oh, ha.

I do run a game store nowadays and it’s interesting to see diehard board games on message boards get confused why their favorite games sell so poorly compared to more mainstream titles. 😌

Pumpkinbot,

“Profitable” does not always mean “good”.

Kerred,

The slogan since the antiquity

NuPNuA,

No, but it does mean “not irrelevant” which was OPs claim.

SCB,

Yeah but it’s also the best Diablo game ever made. 1 is the only one even close.

Hyperi0n,

Diablo 2 Resurrected is the best. Followed by Diablo 2 and then the original Diablo. Bottom 3 are Diablo 4 Diablo 3 and Diablo Immortal.

SCB,

We all have our takes.

Mine goes D4>=D1 > D3 >D2 (and I assume D2R)

No idea on Immortal from me, haven’t played it. Seems interesting but I’m weird about getting diablo on a phone

Widowmaker_Best_Girl,

They made a really hot character in Overwatch though. I’ll give them credit for that.

stephen01king,

Which one, specifically?

smacks,
@smacks@lemmy.ml avatar

Check his username lol

Widowmaker_Best_Girl,

Widowmaker. Hence the reason for my username

stephen01king,

How can I be so blind lol

Goblin_Mode,

I saw a comment the other day that said something to the effect of “shout out to r34 artists I didn’t even know overwatch was a real game until 2 years after it came out”

Widowmaker_Best_Girl,

Dude, Rule 34 artists made me utterly obsessed with the character and I still have never played either of the Overwatch games.

In fact, I know I would probably even hate playing as Widowmaker since she’s a sniper and I am garbage in that role lol.

NuPNuA,

I mean Diablo 4 is going gangbusters right now. They may be irrelevant to your tastes but clearly they’re pretty popular with gamers as a whole still.

Nacktmull,
@Nacktmull@lemmy.world avatar

I fully agree. My statement was meant to be subjective. Gaming became so mainstream, they can sell anything and make millions as long as the games have new shiny graphics. For me as a former Diablo2 player, Blizzard became irrelevant with Diablo3 being a huge disappointment and PoE coming out. As you say that is ofc just my opinion.

Sniatch,

Man I was really hyped for Diablo 4 but I think I just finished act 3 recently and I’m already bored. I don’t know what it is that makes the game so soulless to me

jugalator, (edited )

I agree but I’ve been around from Diablo 1 original launch and in my fourties now so I was just chalking it up to me growing out of it (“it” being Diablo and maybe gaming at large). I’m really bummed about it though because I expected a completely different feeling, even buying my console largely for it. Diablo 2 Resurrected cheated me, maybe out of nostalgia. I found that one really fun and thought D4 would learn D3 lessons and be amazing. But I barely feel anything playing through its campaign. It just feels like work. That I’m following a carefully planned treadmill and pacing with the monster scaling and all. In a grey world with generic monsters. Maybe it’s me, maybe it’s the game, maybe it’s both, but it’s made me finally begin disregarding Blizzard Entertainment games…

nac82,

Its dead after the story. They nuked endgame content imo.

Was not happy with the patch notes but signed in with my 4 friends. We beat the start of the new season stuff, then immediately saw how shit the season was about to be.

Basically after 2 short missions, you do NMD only. Helltide is worse than useless, which sucks because it was my favorite solo casual grind for endgame.

All 5 of us were off the game within an hour. We decided to go back to playing old games. 2 of us went back to playing Diablo 2 lol.

Diablo 4 is hot garbo rn.

CaptPretentious,

How much of that was just nostalgia and hype though. How much staying power does it actually have.

Hyperi0n,

D2R was amazing and D4 has a huge player base.

InternetTubes,

Burned my Battle.Net account when they shat on Taiwan advocacy, not keen to return given all the bullshit that has continued popping up about their abusive workspace environment. Maybe they can go to GOG and shit on Devotion together?

MeanEYE,
@MeanEYE@lemmy.world avatar

Awww, they are such a good guys. They are doing this for us and they want to make sure they respect user’s choice. Totally it’s not the fact Overwatch2 is not earning anything and other games have been in decline since Activision merger.

NuPNuA,

Probably more just prepping for the MS deal to be finished as they’ve promised to bring games to other platforms/launchers.

MeanEYE,
@MeanEYE@lemmy.world avatar

With ActiBlizz it’s all about money. Just look at D3 auction house. They purposely dropped wrong items to players in order to force them to use auction house. When it was found out they backtracked. But it’s always been like that. Same with WoW and mounts. Etc. They keep milking everything.

I have never thought I’d see the day when I think MS is the good guy in a merger.

changingfmh,

Great news for Linux users! Bnet was one of the better launchers, but having a launcher for 5 games is a bit silly.

noobdoomguy8658,
@noobdoomguy8658@feddit.de avatar

There’s nothing stopping them from pulling of a Rockstar move and still requiring you to use a launcher when you start the game in Steam.

XLRV,
@XLRV@lemmy.ml avatar

Yeah, but it’s a bit easier to install the game directly from Steam instead of installing Bnet as a non Steam game and then downloading the game on Bnet.

russjr08,
@russjr08@outpost.zeuslink.net avatar

So far that is not the plan - they could change it of course I’m sure, but it won’t be this way at launch.

Lenins2ndCat,
@Lenins2ndCat@lemmy.world avatar

Desperate to find new Overwatch players I’m guessing. It’s been a massive failure.

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