Lots of them, yes. But most of them aren’t designed there. And yes, I am aware that there are reputable Chinese brands, but the Chinese genetics are not those.
Now, is all these news nothing but propaganda? Is it for political reasons and Chinese tech products are clean and safe, just the US wants to bury the competition, I don’t think so, everyone I know owns a Chinese phone and the way these things behave makes me confirm my suspicions ( activates GPS randomly, scan your downloads, disactives privacy features… Etc )
Note : the video talks about Samsung which is not Chinese, but it’s a famous brand
Literally yes, not because chinese companies don’t spy on you, literally all companies spy on you. You prove it by linking a video about samsung. Google and Apple do the same shit. The fact that software is riddled with spyware has nothing to do with the hardware being manufactured in China. China isn’t some big bad, moving production elsewhere will change nothing. Lastly you should be far more concerned about western companies spying on you, the ones that cooperate with your local government and leave backdoors in their OS for NSA and the like. What do you think the CCP is gonna do to you? You’re outside of their jurisdiction completely.
So yes it js just propaganda, in a sense that it’s trying to make you think this kind of behavior is somehow unique to Chinese companies or a result of tech being manufactured in China.
Probably yes, but isn’t relying on a single country to get your chips, equal or even more problematic. especially when you know that that country is heavily invested in cyberwarfare, espionage and censorship.
Even their constitution states that every Chinese product ( software or hardware ), must send data it collects to the government.
What’s stops them from “chipping” every phone they export ? Or hardcoding spyware into the motherboard or CPU ? Nothing ( this is way more scarier than software level spying )
What do you think the CCP is gonna do to you? You’re outside of their jurisdiction completely.
You don’t know that 💀
it js just propaganda, in a sense that it’s trying to make you think this kind of behavior is somehow unique to Chinese companies or a result of tech being manufactured in China
This is like Apple saying your Android spies on you… lol ( I believe they did say that )
I’m aware of US privacy laws ( e.g. Cloud Act ) and technologies ( e.g. Intel ME ), yeah it’s not unique to China
especially when you know that that country is heavily invested in cyberwarfare, espionage and censorship.
Which country isn’t? The US does more spying on its own citizens than China could ever dream of doing. The UK is currently trying to pass a bill to break e2ee.
Even their constitution states that every Chinese product ( software or hardware ), must send data it collects to the government.
This is like Apple saying your Android spies on you… lol ( I believe they did say that )
Not sure where you were going with this. My point is you don’t hear any of these concerns raised about any other and as we both agree it’s not something unique to China.
The real reason why you hear a lot of talk about moving production out of China lately is simply because Chinese manufacurers have narrowed the the gap a lot in terms of chip designs and are becoming an actual threat to western comanies’ profit margins.
just so we on the same page, I’m talking about data is gathered, not whether it’s protected ( legally ) , idc
can you provide a source?
I’m not a lawyer but I think somewhere in the DSL it mentions data is collected from companies within China and outside, but why is it hard for you to swallow, knowing that US based companies ( with all the power they have, lawyers… Etc ) comply with data collection laws
Not sure where you were going with this
It’s more of a metaphor I guess, basically it’s a decoy, they tell you these people are spying on you, while they do the same or worse
becoming an actual threat to western companies’ profit margins.
Aaside from that, US officials make good points when they talk about the threat of Chinese products ( Tiktok, Huawei ) from a Cybersecurity perspective
Linking to the great firewall article is completely nonsensical in this context, and you would be aware of that if you had bothered to open the link in my previous comment.
just so we on the same page, I’m talking about data is gathered, not whether it’s protected ( legally ) , idc
Which is exactly what I’m talking about, which you would again know if you read what I linked.
I’m not a lawyer but I think somewhere in the DSL it mentions data is collected from companies within China and outside
It doesn’t, what I linked to discusses the very laws you are talking about at length if you are actually interested rather than just spouting nonsense like “it’s in the constitution”.
Just so we’re on the same page you have no idea about Chinese laws on gathering, processing and handling of data, but you heard it somewhere, repeat it, won’t bother to research further and then claim there’s no propaganda.
but why is it hard for you to swallow, knowing that US based companies ( with all the power they have, lawyers… Etc ) comply with data collection laws
Because they don’t. Evidenced by all the fines the EU is handing out to google, meta, etc. You could also look to all the stuff Snowden blew the whostle on. Do you think they just stopped doing mass surveillance on a global level?
Oh, shoot didn’t realize China is a privacy haven, maybe I should move there, maybe I should install Tiktok as well, is that what you’re saying ?
Because they don’t. Evidenced by all the fines the EU is handing out to google, meta, etc. You could also look to all the stuff Snowden blew the whostle on. Do you think they just stopped doing mass surveillance on a global level?
There is a misunderstanding here, I meant they do comply with FBI subpoena’s and they do handle data to US government and 3 letter agencies, why is it that you think Chinese companies are safe from their government ? ( I’ll rephrase it : if US gov can just order US based companies to hand over user messages and emails, why can’t China gov do the same to Chinese based companies ? considering their track record )
I did open your article BTW, it doesn’t answer this question, off course i didn’t read the whole thing
then claim there’s no propaganda
how ? When ?
Didn’t say it’s not propaganda, I was the first to suspect the news I shared to be propaganda, but that doesn’t mean there is no truth in it, that’s how you make successful propaganda, you add false narratives to the real ones, have you listened to why your government officials wanted to ban Tiktok ?
oh I’m sure it does but in my experience tea and coffee are the only products where you can cut corners by reducing costs of production and it’s actually tangible, and not merely abstract like removing brand name logo from the box
Bahlsen Schoko-leibniz. The store brand ones don’t have nearly as nice chocolate.
Conversely, after eights are garbage and the supermarket version comes with nicely tempered chocolate that does a very satisfying crackle when you bite.
Shave gel. Some soaps. Some said Old Baby Bay seasoning and I am 100% behind them on that. Toilet paper. Menstrual pads. Ritz crackers (the consistency, the flavour, the texture/mouth feel). Certain electronics. Definitely tools (I’ve broken so many pairs of diagonal side cutters and the ones that have held up the best and had the best warranty are knipex). And yeah. I buy Advil (the candy coating makes it easier for me to swallow dry and I’m pretty prone to need it for lots of pains because I’m basically a walking talking broken vessel).
DeWalt and Milwaukee. Milwaukee doesn’t last long but with their lifetime warranty I basically start every other project with a new set of tools so w/e
SD cards, SSD, USB drives, any form of computer memory really and replacement batteries too eg for cameras. I suck up the cost and buy directly from a reputable manufacturer.
Apple is kinda a mixed bag in this regard. Sometimes the extra premium you paid is worth it because it lasts ten years, sometimes it breaks in six months because a single pin got bent in some critical internal connector. And sometimes they intentionally slow down old iPhones.
There’s nothing quite as frustrating as loosing photos and footage before it’s been ingested. Always use name brand media and always duplicate it asap. Ask me how I know.
It was a cousin’s wedding. Fortunately I had two cards, filled the first and the second one bit the dust. The ceremony survived but most of the reception pictures are lost. Not the worst case but they were not happy with me. Mem cards were a lot smaller back then.
Agree for the expensive stuff, but started buying cheap usb sticks a few years back and yet to have one go bad. They aren’t as quality as fidget toys, no moving parts, but they do the job they were made for, unless you drive over them with a car or something.
I’ve tried a lot of generic ibuprofen meds (E: including gel ones) but nothing acts both as fast and effectively as advil gel pills. It very well may be a placebo, but I don’t really care so long as it works.
Can agree with the gel pills. I still do go for the normal compacted powder pills if I’m not doing much, but for a faster set-in the advil gel works the fastest.
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