AgentGrimstone,

Frozen burger patties. You can taste the money going down the drain.

Franzia,

This shit was asked a week or two ago. Go away advertiser.

jeffw,

It was a common question on Reddit too. Just thought it would be fun

space,

Tech products. It’s not worth the risk of getting some Chinese spying crap. Even chargers and cables have the risk of damaging your hardware.

adam_b,

Yeah, but all tech products are sourced from China no ?

Pirasp,

Lots of them, yes. But most of them aren’t designed there. And yes, I am aware that there are reputable Chinese brands, but the Chinese genetics are not those.

rockandsock,

I’m hoping you’re a victim of spellcheck and meant generics.

Pirasp,

Yes, I meant generics. Spelling on phone keyboards is rather difficult when your thumbs are as wide as mine…

adam_b,

I mean even if it was reputable, doesn’t mean it’s trustworthy, in fact it’s quite the opposite, and even if it was designed elsewhere, the manufacturing process still happens there, which is concerning to say the least, that’s why Apple wants to start manufacturing in the US, and UK ( and other Eu countries ) wants to remove huawei 5g networks,

Now, is all these news nothing but propaganda? Is it for political reasons and Chinese tech products are clean and safe, just the US wants to bury the competition, I don’t think so, everyone I know owns a Chinese phone and the way these things behave makes me confirm my suspicions ( activates GPS randomly, scan your downloads, disactives privacy features… Etc )

Note : the video talks about Samsung which is not Chinese, but it’s a famous brand

Saizaku,

Now, is all these news nothing but propaganda?

Literally yes, not because chinese companies don’t spy on you, literally all companies spy on you. You prove it by linking a video about samsung. Google and Apple do the same shit. The fact that software is riddled with spyware has nothing to do with the hardware being manufactured in China. China isn’t some big bad, moving production elsewhere will change nothing. Lastly you should be far more concerned about western companies spying on you, the ones that cooperate with your local government and leave backdoors in their OS for NSA and the like. What do you think the CCP is gonna do to you? You’re outside of their jurisdiction completely.

So yes it js just propaganda, in a sense that it’s trying to make you think this kind of behavior is somehow unique to Chinese companies or a result of tech being manufactured in China.

adam_b,

moving production elsewhere will change nothing

Probably yes, but isn’t relying on a single country to get your chips, equal or even more problematic. especially when you know that that country is heavily invested in cyberwarfare, espionage and censorship.

Even their constitution states that every Chinese product ( software or hardware ), must send data it collects to the government.

What’s stops them from “chipping” every phone they export ? Or hardcoding spyware into the motherboard or CPU ? Nothing ( this is way more scarier than software level spying )

What do you think the CCP is gonna do to you? You’re outside of their jurisdiction completely.

You don’t know that 💀

it js just propaganda, in a sense that it’s trying to make you think this kind of behavior is somehow unique to Chinese companies or a result of tech being manufactured in China

This is like Apple saying your Android spies on you… lol ( I believe they did say that )

I’m aware of US privacy laws ( e.g. Cloud Act ) and technologies ( e.g. Intel ME ), yeah it’s not unique to China

Saizaku,

especially when you know that that country is heavily invested in cyberwarfare, espionage and censorship.

Which country isn’t? The US does more spying on its own citizens than China could ever dream of doing. The UK is currently trying to pass a bill to break e2ee.

Even their constitution states that every Chinese product ( software or hardware ), must send data it collects to the government.

This is false as far as I know, can you provide a source? China has some of the strictest laws on data protection, you can read more about it here: academic.oup.com/idpl/article/12/2/75/6537091?log…

This is like Apple saying your Android spies on you… lol ( I believe they did say that )

Not sure where you were going with this. My point is you don’t hear any of these concerns raised about any other and as we both agree it’s not something unique to China.

The real reason why you hear a lot of talk about moving production out of China lately is simply because Chinese manufacurers have narrowed the the gap a lot in terms of chip designs and are becoming an actual threat to western comanies’ profit margins.

adam_b,

China has some of the strictest laws on data protection

Is that so ? , protection from who ?

just so we on the same page, I’m talking about data is gathered, not whether it’s protected ( legally ) , idc

can you provide a source?

I’m not a lawyer but I think somewhere in the DSL it mentions data is collected from companies within China and outside, but why is it hard for you to swallow, knowing that US based companies ( with all the power they have, lawyers… Etc ) comply with data collection laws

Not sure where you were going with this

It’s more of a metaphor I guess, basically it’s a decoy, they tell you these people are spying on you, while they do the same or worse

becoming an actual threat to western companies’ profit margins.

Aaside from that, US officials make good points when they talk about the threat of Chinese products ( Tiktok, Huawei ) from a Cybersecurity perspective

Saizaku,

Linking to the great firewall article is completely nonsensical in this context, and you would be aware of that if you had bothered to open the link in my previous comment.

just so we on the same page, I’m talking about data is gathered, not whether it’s protected ( legally ) , idc

Which is exactly what I’m talking about, which you would again know if you read what I linked.

I’m not a lawyer but I think somewhere in the DSL it mentions data is collected from companies within China and outside

It doesn’t, what I linked to discusses the very laws you are talking about at length if you are actually interested rather than just spouting nonsense like “it’s in the constitution”.

Just so we’re on the same page you have no idea about Chinese laws on gathering, processing and handling of data, but you heard it somewhere, repeat it, won’t bother to research further and then claim there’s no propaganda.

but why is it hard for you to swallow, knowing that US based companies ( with all the power they have, lawyers… Etc ) comply with data collection laws

Because they don’t. Evidenced by all the fines the EU is handing out to google, meta, etc. You could also look to all the stuff Snowden blew the whostle on. Do you think they just stopped doing mass surveillance on a global level?

adam_b, (edited )

Oh, shoot didn’t realize China is a privacy haven, maybe I should move there, maybe I should install Tiktok as well, is that what you’re saying ?

Because they don’t. Evidenced by all the fines the EU is handing out to google, meta, etc. You could also look to all the stuff Snowden blew the whostle on. Do you think they just stopped doing mass surveillance on a global level?

There is a misunderstanding here, I meant they do comply with FBI subpoena’s and they do handle data to US government and 3 letter agencies, why is it that you think Chinese companies are safe from their government ? ( I’ll rephrase it : if US gov can just order US based companies to hand over user messages and emails, why can’t China gov do the same to Chinese based companies ? considering their track record )

I did open your article BTW, it doesn’t answer this question, off course i didn’t read the whole thing

then claim there’s no propaganda

how ? When ?

Didn’t say it’s not propaganda, I was the first to suspect the news I shared to be propaganda, but that doesn’t mean there is no truth in it, that’s how you make successful propaganda, you add false narratives to the real ones, have you listened to why your government officials wanted to ban Tiktok ?

nudnyekscentryk,
@nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info avatar

Coffee and tea. Otherwise I always buy store brand because it comes from the same factory.

el_abuelo,

Coffee and tea doesn’t?

nudnyekscentryk, (edited )
@nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info avatar

oh I’m sure it does but in my experience tea and coffee are the only products where you can cut corners by reducing costs of production and it’s actually tangible, and not merely abstract like removing brand name logo from the box

Smeagol666,

Peanut butter. Generic peanut butter is downright nasty. Skippy or Jiff for me.

EddyNottingham,

Skippy or Jiff

I thought Skippy and Jiff were generic, isn’t good peanut butter the stuff that only has one ingredient: peanuts?

caesaravgvstvs,

Bahlsen Schoko-leibniz. The store brand ones don’t have nearly as nice chocolate.

Conversely, after eights are garbage and the supermarket version comes with nicely tempered chocolate that does a very satisfying crackle when you bite.

FireWire400,
@FireWire400@lemmy.world avatar

Everything made by Nestle is automatically garbage, unfortunately…

caesaravgvstvs,

You caught on to my covert anti nestle propaganda 🤭

But also the store brand after eights in Germany are great

FireWire400,
@FireWire400@lemmy.world avatar

I really wish there was a decent alternative to KitKats, the no-name stuff just is nowhere near as good (at least the ones I’ve tried).

caesaravgvstvs,

I hear you as I crunch on a delicious “Lion brownie edition”

FireWire400,
@FireWire400@lemmy.world avatar

Lion brownie edition

Don’t tempt me…

atrielienz, (edited )

Shave gel. Some soaps. Some said Old Baby Bay seasoning and I am 100% behind them on that. Toilet paper. Menstrual pads. Ritz crackers (the consistency, the flavour, the texture/mouth feel). Certain electronics. Definitely tools (I’ve broken so many pairs of diagonal side cutters and the ones that have held up the best and had the best warranty are knipex). And yeah. I buy Advil (the candy coating makes it easier for me to swallow dry and I’m pretty prone to need it for lots of pains because I’m basically a walking talking broken vessel).

TacoNissan,

Yummmm Baby season

wuphysics87,

Tool. I only use Dewalt and Kobalt

robotopera,

DeWalt and Milwaukee. Milwaukee doesn’t last long but with their lifetime warranty I basically start every other project with a new set of tools so w/e

Admetus,

Used to be Heinz but now they’ve replaced tomato with more brown sugar or something so it tastes bland.

JohnFoe,

Try the Heinz Simply line. Personally, I find it tastes better than the classic which has turned bland.

Cryan24,

Redbull.

Cysioland,
@Cysioland@lemmygrad.ml avatar

Coffee. It’s always from a proper indie roaster and not the store brand

kucing,

Switched to beans years ago. Now I can’t drink instant coffee anymore or else I got stomachache.

EddyNottingham,

Yes! This is the only way to go 😀

multicolorKnight,

Q-Tips. Paper shafts, plenty of fuzz on the ends.

qevlarr, (edited )

Netherlands represent!

Coca Cola
Hela curry ketchup
Albert Heijn frikadelbroodje
Ben & Jerry’s ice cream

protput,

Zeisner curry ketchup is the best though! Don’t know if you can buy it in the Netherlands.

I’m definitely trying the frikandelbroodje next time I’m at Albert Heijn. Don’t know if the Belgian one has all the same products.

e_mc2,

Hema rookworsten FTW

Manmikey,
@Manmikey@lemmy.world avatar

SD cards, SSD, USB drives, any form of computer memory really and replacement batteries too eg for cameras. I suck up the cost and buy directly from a reputable manufacturer.

CeruleanRuin,

Electronics in general are you get what you pay for. It might work just as well for a while, but cheaper components will almost always fail quicker.

Xavienth,

Apple is kinda a mixed bag in this regard. Sometimes the extra premium you paid is worth it because it lasts ten years, sometimes it breaks in six months because a single pin got bent in some critical internal connector. And sometimes they intentionally slow down old iPhones.

PraiseTheSoup,

Apple products are so incredibly overpriced, they are never worth the money.

InputZero,

There’s nothing quite as frustrating as loosing photos and footage before it’s been ingested. Always use name brand media and always duplicate it asap. Ask me how I know.

EddyNottingham, (edited )

Oh no, whose wedding shoot did you lose? 😄

TheGreenGolem,

*whose

EddyNottingham,

Alright alright, I corrected it 😅 thanks haha

InputZero,

It was a cousin’s wedding. Fortunately I had two cards, filled the first and the second one bit the dust. The ceremony survived but most of the reception pictures are lost. Not the worst case but they were not happy with me. Mem cards were a lot smaller back then.

EddyNottingham,

Glad you survived the bride and groom’s wrath! 😄

Viper_NZ,

Dual memory card camera. Copy after each shoot onto two different storage devices. (Eg laptop and external drive).

InputZero,

Would have been nice at the time, but unfortunately wasn’t affordable yet.

Thisfox,

Agree for the expensive stuff, but started buying cheap usb sticks a few years back and yet to have one go bad. They aren’t as quality as fidget toys, no moving parts, but they do the job they were made for, unless you drive over them with a car or something.

blanketswithsmallpox,

Huh, I’ve never had any problems going bottom of the barrel on anything PC related besides micro SD cards for home security and dashcams.

Most power supplies that aren’t just ripped out of some unknown piece of tech are great these days too.

Pirasp,

That is very highly dependent on your definition of great. Compared to cheap ass shit 20 years ago, sure. But compared to quality today, no.

saigot, (edited )

I’ve tried a lot of generic ibuprofen meds (E: including gel ones) but nothing acts both as fast and effectively as advil gel pills. It very well may be a placebo, but I don’t really care so long as it works.

AgnosticMammal,

Can agree with the gel pills. I still do go for the normal compacted powder pills if I’m not doing much, but for a faster set-in the advil gel works the fastest.

DickShaney,

I think that’s just them being gel. There are generic gel pills that in my experience work just as fast.

RGB3x3,

Most places have a generic gel version. It’s literally the same thing, so it’s worth saving the money.

But of course, you do you.

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