threeduck

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threeduck,

Un-normalise the word normalise.

threeduck,

I mean, I feel like all the older generations said a good pair of shoes would net you $300, that’s gotta have increased with inflation now. It’s probably worth investing a LOT of money into good shoes if you spend a good chunk of life in em

threeduck,

Our PT system (Melbourne Australia) is privately owned and costs $5 each way. Consider not paying and paying a fine if caught - it often works out cheaper. Fines are $200, and I’ve only had my ticket checked maybe 4 times in 6 years. Odds are good!

threeduck,

My brother convinced me not to, as Coles and Woolworths are often franchised by families. Head office takes their cut regardless, whatever you steal comes out of the franchise owners wallet. Happy to be proven wrong as I’d love to knick from em.

threeduck,

Refrigerate your mangos before eating! So much nicer than a lukewarm mango.

threeduck,

Flyscreen on my windows has stopped me ever needing to kill flies.

threeduck,

The Mrs and I have agreed we’ll never buy and rent out an investment property, even if it makes financial sense.

To fight with other investors over someone else’s first home to boulster my own portfolio and then harvest other people’s wages because I had a higher initial deposit seems dirty to me.

I refuse to pull the ladder up behind me if and when we can buy our first home.

threeduck,

Being complicit in the system is what props it up. If everyone acted like my partner and I, there would be no housing crisis. Your “the system is broken so I might as well take advantage” mindset is the cornerstone of so much wrong in this planet. It’s why slavery existed, it’s why factory farming exists, it’s why child sweat shops still operate, it’s why global warming runs rampant. Your hamburger analogy also isn’t very applicable. A hamburger salesman provides me with a product that I choose to occasionally enjoy. If hamburgerlords suddenly bought up every hamburger and started scalping them, I’d go without hamburgers. Whereas you’ve used your wealth to scalp houses, something people can’t go without.

threeduck,

It sounds like your morals are beholden to whatever reprehensible things are allowed by the government, if you are competitively incentivised. If slavery became legalised today, would you buy yourself some slaves to make sure you’re keeping up with the Jonese’s? Just because the government allows you to negatively gear and buy stacks of houses off of an initial investment, depriving others of their first home - solely because you legally can - doesn’t mean you have to, or should. This opulence of multiple home ownership, where you literally charge your tenants more than your mortgage costs, profiteering during a housing crisis, is really reprehensible. Look, I’m sure if we were at the pub together we’d have a great time, but buddy, you’re objectively an immoral person.

threeduck,

Pure speculation here, but I feel like it’s an American thing. With the minimum wage over there being stupid low, coupled with “grind-set culture”, the young generation is doing everything it can to make money to meet their fame-obssessed ideals. The effort to reduce sex-worker stigma probably helps a lot too.

threeduck,

“Being rich” is idealised by Americans, their culture is baked in it. The Kardashians, every YouTuber flaunting their exhaustive fortunes, people showing off wads of cash on Snapchat/Instagram. The whole bit about having an android phone being a turn off, which seems to be almost entirely isolated to Americans. If I had to guess, I’d say it stems from African Americans requiring money to “escape the hood”, and that culture permeating to other ethnicities (likely via music). If my theory is correct, then it would follow that people might go to greater levels to attain wealth in a culture that idealises it so heavily. Did that explain my viewpoint?

threeduck,

Yeah possibly. Although rents over there aren’t any worse than here in Sydney Australia, or Auckland NZ, and yet 45% of onlyfans content creators are American.

threeduck,

Cost of living troubles aren’t unique to America, and yet 45% of OnlyFans content creators are American. There’s something else at play, and I’d argue it’s cultural.

threeduck,

The success of this veneer is indicative of my point. You can’t hand wave social media away, this upcoming generation is deeply involved in it. The success of these trends means they’re being actively consumed. There are loads of studies suggesting youth develop mental health disorders as a direct result of seeing (often financial) success amongst peers on social media. I did posit that my point was fairly speculative, but at least I cited commonplace social trends bolstering my point. You’ve just said “no, not true”.

threeduck,

It Takes Two too often borrowed from that “well that just happened!” school of comedy that I just couldn’t stand. Not all the time mind you, but enough to bother me.

threeduck,

OP can’t inb4

threeduck,

Ouch my ligaments.

No more murderin’ for meeee

threeduck,

Thanks, I watched the entire thing.

threeduck,

And if you espouse untoward opinions, we can have you put down

threeduck,

There often more caffeine in a standard coffee than half a litre of monster energy drink.

threeduck,

It was a joke Mark. A Christmas joke.

threeduck,

A triple-A game is only available and free to you because people like me pay for it.

If everyone acted like you, the AAA game industry wouldn’t exist.

I’m not trying to be disparaging, but no pirate should be proud of their theft.

threeduck,

But then why pirate the game?

threeduck,

Got em

threeduck,

I suspect it’s less of a trigger warning, and more of a means to reframe perceptions of food.

Like, if TV commercials just started putting little “viewers may find the following depictions of dead animals disturbing” stingers before a commercial of a family eating steaks, it might change perceptions over time.

threeduck,

You had a brand new car that only lasted 10 years?? What are you doing to your cars??

My friend has a 1993 Toyota Land Cruiser that the mechanic said drives like new.

I have a 2008 Nissan 350z that I’d expect to get another 10 years out of.

threeduck,

Fable 1 got a remaster

threeduck,

I pre-ordered a pair of shoes online and the website asked for a tip.

In Australia.

threeduck,

Jennens, they’re platform shoes to give me a few extra inches in height.

Guess “name and shame” might be particularly accurate here

threeduck,

The incoherent ramblings of the ill informed.

I think most of the people you’re yelling at don’t actually eat animals. It’s not “don’t do it in front of me”, it’s “don’t do it”.

threeduck,

I dunno, I’m not american. Google it

threeduck,

Bustin’

threeduck,

It’s weird because this one doesn’t even have a joke. It’s just stating a bad thing. You could literally sub in any current concern:

“We should extract oil to create motor vehicles”

“What if those motor vehicles create pollution?”

“Shut up”.

threeduck,

I exclusively drink dog milk, it’s actually sweeter than dairy.

It’s a bit sad when you have to keep immediately taking the puppies away from the female dogs and they sniff around and search for them for months and months, howling and barking.

But it’s a whole lot cuter than cows when you kill the male dogs (because they don’t produce milk), it’s cute seeing them wag their little tails right before the bolt to the brain!

Plus dog milk is better for the environment! Not as good as plant milk, but the idea of consuming plants is “ick”.

threeduck,

Ooh, which of my arguments are shallow? Go on hahaha there’s literally no defense against veganism beyond “I just don’t care about the destruction I leave in my wake”

threeduck,

I like the idea that we can end life as soon as it’s deemed “unproductive”. You’d hope an alien life form that finds us is more empathetic than that wouldn’t you.

threeduck,

a lot of livestock is less intensive

Haha it’s literally the opposite. Plant based agriculture grows 512% more pounds of food than animal-based agriculture, with 69% of the land. Animal agriculture uses more water, emits more greenhouse gas, uses more land, and produces less of the world’s nutritional needs. You may be referring to “regenerative farming” with animal excrement fertilising soil, but crop rotation and reduced over-tilling is equally efficacious.

Almond milk uses more water

Wrong again. It takes 628 litres of water to make a litre of bovine milk, 371 for almond milk, and 28 for soy (which is what I drink, for that very reason).

It takes more labour to grow crops than animal farming

I can’t find any source either way on that, pasture.io says crop farming requires less physical labour, but they don’t seem to cite anything. What I do know is that slaughterhouse workers have severely increased risk of mental health disorders directly resulting from their work.

Follow my ancestors philosophy

Ah, the Appeal To History Fallacy, my ancestors did ritual slaughter of virgins so it’s morally okay to continue doing so!

To sum up, it really sounds like you haven’t done literally any research here. If the world swapped to veganism, global land use for agriculture would reduce by 75%. Food related emissions would reduce by 70% (that’s 15% of the ENTIRE world’s greenhouse gas emissions). And that doesn’t even mention animal welfare concerns.

Feel free to reply - I have overwhelming scientific support. I remember when I wasn’t vegan, desperately searching for ANY studies that supported my desire to continue living a destructive, immoral lifestyle. In the end, I just listened to logic and reason and turned vegan.

threeduck,

I… don’t understand your point, are you being purposefully vague? How did you parents die that wasn’t preferable to your dogs?

In the case of this argument, if an alien species did land on earth and treat us like cattle for food (based on our own subjugation of “lesser species”), are you saying that’s fine because you “want the right to die”?

I really really don’t get what you’re trying to say here.

threeduck,

I tend to be bloodthirsty and violent

No kidding. You aren’t refuting the Appeal To History Fallacy, you’re doubling down even. Cavemen used tribalistically murder and rape, that doesn’t mean it’s okay to do now. You’re smarter than that. You don’t need to do things because cavemen once did.

Alfafa is the culprit of high water use You originally said vegan diets are worse for water use. I refuted you. You’ve basically replied with “that’s because cattle eat food that use more water”. They still use more water. Every meat eater purports to buy their meat “from the farmer next door”. However pasture raised cattle require longer life spans before slaughter (18-30 months old instead of 13-15) due to a reduced energy-dense diet. The water reduction isn’t that much.

Local aquafure use is used more in almond production than beef

Forgetting that almonds (which I suggest people DONT eat) use 50% less water than cows, groundwater was the source of 62% of total livestock withdraws in the US. I agree that almonds are too water intensive, we should shift to soy which uses >20x less water.

I don’t give a fuck

Which is what I said at the beginning. The only valid argument against veganism is when someone says “I know a vegan diet is healthier, better for the planet and better for the animals, but I still choose to kill and eat animals”. There’s no arguing against someone who ignores reason to satisfy their tastebuds.

I’m autistic and don’t like veges

I’m sure if an autistic cannibal came along and said “I don’t like the texture of animals, I only eat human children and women” we wouldn’t accept that as an excuse.

threeduck,

Ah okay, thanks for the explanation.

I think a lot of your argument boils down to “Us vs Nature”, that the farm life of a cow is preferable to what might happen in the wild.

Don’t forget that male cow (steer) are typically killed on their first birthday, with some pasturalised cattle getting to live until 3. A cow is meant to live until 15-20. Male chickens are ground up or gassed upon birth. Dairy cows are kept constantly pregnant and separated from calves until they dry up and are no longer profitable by which time they’re immediately slaughtered. Sows are kept in sow stalls so cramped they can’t physically move, often never seeing daylight their entire life.

I think I’d take freedom over that.

If an alien species does come down, you’d hope they’d be more moral than us humans and wouldn’t factory farm us huh.

I don’t advocate for a complete vegan diet to start with if you can’t. Every meal you don’t eat meat is better for you, the animal and the planet. Substituting ingredients is easy, especially with fake mince - it’s probably the best faux meat there is.

threeduck,

woosh

threeduck,

Oh it’s a reference to a comic strip where the main character runs to a hospital to find his wife has miscarried.

The strip gained infamy for changing the tone of the comic so adruptly. Look up “loss comic”.

The joke here is that the shapes represent the different characters in the strip, there’s a lot of abstract jokes in the same vein

threeduck,

They’re putting on a live stage version of it in London next year, I’m travelling from Australia to see it.

threeduck,

Heads up OP, on Windows if you press Windows+Shift+S, it opens the snipping tool which lets you select a portion of your desktop to screenshot. Saves it to your clipboard too.

threeduck,

You’re allowed to be a little bit mean on the internet.

Particularly when the most virulent word used was “illiterate”

threeduck,

Weakling.

I’ve been clutching so hard, the pearls fused into my flesh years ago. I’ve bankrupted myself buying more pearls, inserted one by one into my clenched fist.

Luckily the mere sight of me - a lurching pearlescent beast with glinting pearls for eyes - causes clams to voluntarily offer their own in reverance, my own unending supply.

threeduck,

I thought the newest one ditched the headphone jack?

threeduck,

Damn, no Metroid Prime 4 again.

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