Pratai,

They force ads and steal money from the content creators, and people still flock to use their services. How fucking braindead can you be?

Just stop using YouTube. That will fix their problems real quick.

CookieJarObserver,
@CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works avatar

There is basically no competition and the people uploading videos kinda live from doing so…

Pratai,

So everyone that uses YouTube is a content creator?

SaintFlow,

So what are my options on windows? I just know about patched clients on Android

Gestrid,

Probably wait until the adblockers update their filters to block YouTube’s attempt to block the adblockers. Twitch tried to do the same thing, and now there’s add-ons specifically designed to block that purple banner.

slobber,

I’m not sure it’ll be that easy. As far as I know circumventing adblock-blockers is a violation under the DMCA :-( . I know some adblockers / block lists in the past have been slapped with DMCA notifications and they’ve subsequently removed the circumventions. See for example this commit to EasyList that removes functionalclam.com from EasyList. Functionalclam.com at the time was a service to block adblocking.

I’m hoping third-party youtube clients will be able to keep things ad-free.

Ultra980,

You could try piped.video or another piped instance

RaivoKulli,

Paste link to VLC, mpv, other media player. Also Freetube and the sort work.

1ird,
@1ird@notyour.rodeo avatar

uBlock origin.

SocialMediaRefugee,

That has a steep learning curve that is not average user friendly

1ird,
@1ird@notyour.rodeo avatar

You literally just install it and it works. The only learning curve is proportional to how much you want to personalize your ad blocking experience.

viking,
@viking@infosec.pub avatar

Use Firefox, and all the same adblockers as always.

ShittyKopper, (edited )

uBlock Origin to be more specific.

anything owned by eyeo (which now includes non-Origin uBlock alongside AdBlock and AdBlock Plus) will probably consider these “acceptable ads” after not at all getting bribed by google, and the rest are quite literally malware (except a small handful)

shashi154263,

The worst part of YouTube ads is super long ads (sometimes even multiple hours long). It has happened to me multiple times. And coincidentally it always happens when I’m feeling sleepy.

Here is a screenshot.

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/2afbf424-2ad2-4303-8637-58284ed68643.jpeg

grayman,

Seems like a way to check for attention. Not clicking the skip indicates you’re not actually watching. The benefit to them is probably more ad revenue.

shashi154263,

In other words, taking advantage of their own users!

doomer,

And advertising customers. Great company all around.

gunpachi,
@gunpachi@lemmings.world avatar

I think back in 2015, there was the Tai Lopez ads that were also very long.

shashi154263,

I don’t have a screenshot nor do I remember what ad was it, but I have seen an ad that was more than 2 hours long.

Blizzard,

Ad blockers are not allowed on YouTube

  • ad blockers are not “on youtube”, they are on my devices
  • allowed by whom?
  • fuck you

https://lemmy.zip/pictrs/image/a8719ebf-677f-48b3-b162-509e9604bf46.webp

pseudo,
@pseudo@lemmy.world avatar
  • ad blockers are not “on youtube”, they are on my devices

based

  • allowed by whom?

checked

  • fuck you

and redpilled

marmo7ade,

ad blockers are not “on youtube”, they are on my devices

By the same logic, they can make any changes to youtube they want and that is perfectly OK. Youtube isn’t on your PC. It’s on their server. You don’t own that server. They can reject your connection to their server for any reason they want.

Skwerls,

Technically, YouTube runs on your computer as well as their servers. They could put a crypto mining script on there if they wanted,and I think most people would concur that that is unacceptable.

smileyhead,

Rare to see there valid points in a row.

PhAzE,

Just click the “not using an adblocker” button. If everyone does that it’ll probably whitelist the blockers, we can hope.

hackitfast,
@hackitfast@lemmy.world avatar

NewPipe, and YouTube Revanced are great apps you can use on mobile. They aren’t attached to any Google account so you can just use them and skip adds all day without getting any account theoretically banned.

For those who continue to use YouTube and adblockers on PC, simply just make a new throwaway Google account. In the case that they aren’t actually bluffing (they are) then at least your temp account will be banned.

EddyBot,

for PC there is also Freetube and Invidious

hackitfast,
@hackitfast@lemmy.world avatar

Thank you! I’ll keep these in mind

gunpachi,
@gunpachi@lemmings.world avatar

There’s also Libretube on android.

SailorMoss,

Or just don’t use an account. I’ve been doing that since Google force merged YouTube and Google accounts in like 2011.

hypertown,

Revanced is great because it lets you watch without ads WITH Google account. I know that if you’re focused on privacy the last thing you want is Google account but for me the benefit of YouTube algorithm suggesting me exactly what I want to watch is enough the reason to not use any platform/app that doesn’t support login. Of course they need to try more before I’ll pay for premium. For now if that dialog ever shows up to me I’m setting my UA to Android and see if that happens on mobile YouTube as well. Since they don’t care too much about that version of YouTube it’s possible that dialog will not show up. If that’s blocked too I’m installing waydroid and revanced on it. Also I hope that development of VueTube will speed up because currently it’s so slow I’m not sure if it will ever be finished and it would be great to have alternatives to revanced.

9488fcea02a9,

i was a YT premium subscriber when google play music didn’t suck… they lost me when they switched it to youtube music

TheFunkyMonk,

What changed after the switch? I kept subscribing since the music + YouTube video was well worth the value for me, and haven’t noticed a change.

atzanteol,

No more gapless playback for one. Listening to albums by e.g. Pink Floyd can be really annoying without it…

9488fcea02a9,

They kept trying to push videos into my feed. I want a music service period

Also it was sometimes hard to tell if i’m listening to official content from the band, or some bootleg copy uploaded by user “SomeGuy83771”

There were a bunch of other annoyances that i cant really remember off the top of my head right now… Its beeb many years since i left

FontMasterFlex,

Man, all these companies just pushing me away from using their services. I don’t need it.

Cedarwood,

For real. I’m mostly excited for the possibility of getting a viable alternative to Google’s obvious disregard for human decency. Bring on the crowd funded video streaming apps!

_sideffect,

I just got my first 30 second UNSKIPPABLE ad on my TV the other day…I closed youtube, as watching a 1min video is NOT worth 30 seconds of ads

Aikawa, (edited )

I recommend you to sideload SmartTube on your TV, *if it has an Android-based OS. It works better than the official app in my opinion, and includes SponsorBlock.

*Edit

maniel,
@maniel@lemmy.ml avatar

Are Android smart TVs that popular nowadays? I mean few years ago I wouldn’t assume Android TV when hearing about smart TVs

shashi154263,

Probably depends on the country, but very popular.

redcalcium,

Even Google Chromecast run AndroidTV these days.

PhAzE,

I wish this was available on WebOS. I use it on my Shield and it’s been flawless.

Mkengine,

There are ways to do that for WebOS

_sideffect,

Will do, thanks!

SocialMediaRefugee,

Next they will detect if you mute the tab and go to another one to wait the ad out.

ndsvw,
@ndsvw@feddit.de avatar

In Google Chrome, they’ll additionally follow you around in the other tab so see what you are doing there…

AeroLemming,

They’ll use a camera to see if you’re actually watching the ad or not.

Bye,

Please drink verification can

WtfEvenIsExistence,

Why’s everything going to shit? The world is already shitty enough, lemme enjoy some escapism ffs.

Xanthobilly,

Eshitification is a result of end stage capitalism. People are trying to extract their last bit of value before society goes tits up due to climate change.

unconsciousvoidling,

well they better be investing in bunkers and 100 years worth of canned beans.

ThePyroPython,

They’re also betting on Aquaponics, sea-steading, and flying to Mars.

Let’s hope they also make close friends with their bunker guards, else the millionaire residents will be the first to get slaughtered.

synceDD,
@synceDD@lemmy.world avatar

Ironic, thats u trying to leech off youtube for free

SocialMediaRefugee,

Squeezing max profit has been part of it from day 1.

Pregnenolone,

The markets tanked which meant the cheap VC money dried up. Tech companies are rushing to implement the monetisation and cost-saving strategies they withheld before because it ruined the user growth now to ensure they are maintaining as much revenue as possible.

SaintFlow,

You meant lemmy enjoy?

WtfEvenIsExistence,

lemmy lemme lemmon same thing. What even is a word but words that someone worded, if you reword a word enough times the word doesn’t even sound like a word anymore. Word?

Landrin201, (edited )
@Landrin201@lemmy.ml avatar

For close to 2 decades we had near 0 interest rates. VC daddies used that as an excuse to throw loads of money at every itiots pet project because hey, why not? They were able to absolutely roll in money and take out loans at criminally low rates.

But now rates are getting back to actually sane levels again, and suddenly the vc daddies are all sad because the infinite money pit has dried up and they actually have to be responsible with their money again. So now they’re turning to all of the companies that they gave money to and are saying “hey remember when I gave you money? Pay me back now. I don’t care if it means you have to fundamentally change the service that’s making you money, get me my money or I’ll bring you down with it.”

And since our economy is structured such that the money of wealthy people is more important than literally anything or anyone else in our society, the companies have no choice but to comply. So they all raise their prices and shore up the holes that weren’t letting them milk every cent out of their users.

anywho,

I am paying for YouTube Premium, and yet I still have to skip over US-exclusive sponsor sections which almost every Youtuber has nowadays…

Viper_NZ,

If you’re not already using it, this is gold: sponsor.ajay.app

RaivoKulli,

It’s funny how we need uBlock Origin, SponsorBlock and maybe even DeArrow (same dev as SB) to make Youtube tolerable.

viking,
@viking@infosec.pub avatar

I’d love DeArrow to be merged into SmartTubeNext.

Watching quite some youtube on my TV, and the clickbait suuuuuuucks.

ironic_elk,

That's why I still use Vanced. Sponsorblock is something I can't live without even though I have YouTube premium.

Ultra980,

You should try revanced.

ours,

And SmartTubeNext on Android TV.

Bandicoot_Academic,

Yup. Just be careful the only real website is revanced.app and the github. All others are unofficial and can sometimes spread malware

Norgur,

Yeah, almost exclusively either Us-centric and not even available where I live, or so gosh darn expensive that I just will never use the stuff advertised (looking at you, magic spoon)

BettyWhiteInHD,
@BettyWhiteInHD@lemmy.world avatar

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  • joshuaacasey,
    @joshuaacasey@lemmy.world avatar

    you should check out linustechtips. The sponsors they get/accept are actually decent reputable companies with decent products.

    Pregnenolone,

    Linus’s video on their sponsors gave them way too much benefit of the doubt for scummy practices I would have dropped a company for

    lemann,

    To be fair a lot of us here on Lemmy are likely to be more principled or have staunch opinions on companies and products - we’ve abandoned the orange R, and likely centralised social media for one thing.

    From my POV, Linus seems to tone down his views in videos, and his writers are the ones doing the research for the video rather than him. He’s a lot more critical of companies on the WAN show from what I’ve seen

    NightOwl,

    Doesn’t really matter if he is critical on one segment but not so much either. Or that the blame is shifted to the writers. But, I guess it’s just to say whoever it is sponsored segments are not to be trusted by default, and best being ignored.

    Like even pro athletes end up shilling and using products that end up hurting them despite being in the 1% in their field like Lonzo Ball and his crappy shoes.

    Norgur,

    Here in Germany, the national soccer team has been advertising Nutella for decades. I don't think they eat the chocolate flavored sugar-fat as much as they are paid to pretend...

    NightOwl,

    My first impression for anything on YouTube is untrustworthy spam. Don’t matter who it is. It’s just the reality of paid sponsorships, and anyone being paid is going to generally talk up the positives, and talk up how much integrity they have. It’s not just a YouTube thing either. I assume the same for celebrity endorsements even if it is in an area they are an expert in like sports, since product they use isn’t the quality that reaches consumers. Sometimes even the products they use is crap and ends up hurting them. Example Lonzo Ball and the shoes he endorsed.

    It’s just general good skepticism towards the marketing machine. Nobody is to be trusted when it comes to what they are paid to shill.

    TORFdot0,

    Linus is getting sponsorship from either actually useful tech software that is for enterprise or it’s some weird niche software or product that no one ever needs.

    CoderKat,

    Yeah, those are frustrating. Some channels I watch have a ton of annoying YouTube ads, where premium becomes a must for sanity. But some others have baked in sponsors that can’t be skipped (but no native YouTube ads). I wish they’d reconcile the two. It doesn’t make sense that you can pay to only block some ads, and depending on what videos you watch, that could be either the majority of ads or none at all!

    ndsvw,
    @ndsvw@feddit.de avatar

    Just use yewtu.be instead… It’s a better YouTube frontend

    jenniebuckley,
    @jenniebuckley@lemmy.world avatar

    fuck YouTube premium. why would I pay £19.99 a month when literally the only defining feature for me is no ads. all this will do is allow for more complex ad blockers to be made to bypass this

    sunbytes,

    There’s a lite version that’s only for the ads.

    It’s cheaper than the full 19.99.

    While that might still be too much, I just wanted to point out that if you don’t want ads, it doesn’t cost the full 20quid.

    Oaulo,

    This was news to me so I went looking and couldn’t find it on youtube. Reading articles seems to indicate it is only available in certain regions and at certain times. I finally found the link to the page (www.youtube.com/premiumlite) and confirmed it’s not available for me in the US at least.

    Z4rK,

    The creators also get a good chunk of the money from premium as far as I’ve been able to verify (by asking some I follow directly).

    marmo7ade,

    I pay for youtube premium because I watch a lot of youtube and it is easily worth the price. I paid $12 to see oppenhimer and that was only 3 hours. I watch way more than 3 hours of youtube every week.

    dmrzl,

    “While the duration of this timer isn’t revealed, we expect it to be somewhere around 30 to 60 seconds.”

    Peak journalism.

    Rai,

    We suspect it may or may not be somewhere in the ballpark on five seconds to seven days.

    knobbysideup,

    There is something fundamentally wrong with a service that shows more ads than content.

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