I just went to yt’s front page, which I haven’t done in a long while (usually use NewPipe or use a direct link). There is a LOT of garbage on there. I mean, holy crap! It’s not the creators’ fault, I know. The Algorithm decides, and they must appease The Algorithm. Still, though. And, now, this timer bs for the 2% who use adblockers?
Youtubes own data said 2% of their viewers use adblock. This was from their technical reaserch as well as surveys. Ask yourself what is really going on. Ask yourself why lots of small channels are being demonetised and blocked.
“Commercially viable” is the language that has been banded about. If you’re fringe then you wont attain the threshold YT wants to make money off your work.
2% of all viewers are using adblock. This isnt about adblock, this is about data and corporate control of ad revenues. YT has also said ads are coming to premium too, lets not forget.
And then the AI script retaliates by identifying and switching to matching videos on PeerTube, whilst also learning your viewing habits. A premium version offers a subscription which pays third world workers to complete the captcha on your behalf.
Then Google users WEI to kill the extension.
Then someone releases a VPS which runs Chrome and supplies the whole thing by Remote Desktop, with a client side app that integrates the behaviour...
I know you jest, but it's not beyond the realm of possibility for some peer to peer system to exist, similar to bittorrent, which could distribute the load across viewers. Most people have half decent internet these days. This imaginary extension could recognise the YouTube video URL, check it's DHT to see if anyone else has it, and if not it could capture the YouTube video and redistribute it to the next person who looked up the same URL. Stale videos could be deleted after a time.
So, basically torrenting but for YT videos. Pretty interesting on the technology side on how you’d handle unstable seeders, because after all it’s streamed content, which is different from your regular content you’d get.
Now I realized YT videos buffer anyway.
One could even dedicated a set amount of disk space for sole use of downloading videos automatically that server says they should, which could be algorithmically decided whether it’s needed due to high demand (need more seeds) or sort of archiving.
Could be an interesting project, a decentralized youtube “archive”.
I actually don’t have a problem paying for online services. I host my own email, I pay for Kagi search and I do monthly donations to Mozilla and Wikipedia. What I have an issue with is services that start out as advertisement based and then introduce paid plans, because now you still have all these shitty mechanics just for driving up engagement which results in unhealthy incentives for content creators and rabbit holes. I want a service that is for YouTube what Kagi is to Google Search. But perhaps that model is too difficult to monetize, I don’t know.
Nebula is absolutely amazing, but it’s a very specific niche. I don’t think that kind of model could ever work outside of that genre of educational, super high production value content.
Honestly like the idea of nebula but most of the content from my favorite creators is like an hour long meanwhile I only watch something on YouTube if it’s less that 20 minutes
I disagree. I am on the fence about joining nebula, but that’s partially because I know I will binge through my favorite stuff then back on YouTube watching small time content.
I would be more likely to pay a couple bucks a month or like $20 a year to a service specifically for small time creators trying to build up an audience. Or even some 15 year old that wanted to earn some candy or dirt bike money from their claymation videos or whatever.
I spend a lot of time lying in bed thinking about all of the great art, poetry, songs, books, videos, plays, etc. That will never come to be because it’s stuck in someone’s mind and they don’t have the outlet and or incentive to put pencil to paper, turn on that cam, or finally record themselves when they set bow to string and start playing the work they had been creating for the last year.
I’ve been eying Kagi and Orion. How do you find Kagi? I spend so much time fighting with Google SEO if it’s half decent I would switch. I’m just wary that my searching methods wouldn’t work well in Kagi.
Did you find it straightforward to adjust to how Kagi works?
I’m very happy with Kagi. I find the search results to be excellent. It does take a little bit of practice to get back into the habit of writing proper search queries instead of relying on google already having a profile of what you’re likely to want, but once you do its very solid. The features to promote or demote domains is also very useful.
Funny thing is that occasionally I’ll search for something with Kagi and I’ll get no or very few results only to then try google. Google will then show me millions of results but it’s all unrelated, AI generated, SEO trash that’ll just waste my time. I’ll take no results over that any day.
At least in the past, you couldn’t get banned from YouTube: They would instead lock your entire Google account and I personally would not be able to deal with that.
NewPipe, and YouTube Revanced are great apps you can use on mobile. They aren’t attached to any Google account so you can just use them and skip adds all day without getting any account theoretically banned.
For those who continue to use YouTube and adblockers on PC, simply just make a new throwaway Google account. In the case that they aren’t actually bluffing (they are) then at least your temp account will be banned.
Revanced is great because it lets you watch without ads WITH Google account. I know that if you’re focused on privacy the last thing you want is Google account but for me the benefit of YouTube algorithm suggesting me exactly what I want to watch is enough the reason to not use any platform/app that doesn’t support login. Of course they need to try more before I’ll pay for premium. For now if that dialog ever shows up to me I’m setting my UA to Android and see if that happens on mobile YouTube as well. Since they don’t care too much about that version of YouTube it’s possible that dialog will not show up. If that’s blocked too I’m installing waydroid and revanced on it. Also I hope that development of VueTube will speed up because currently it’s so slow I’m not sure if it will ever be finished and it would be great to have alternatives to revanced.
For real. I’m mostly excited for the possibility of getting a viable alternative to Google’s obvious disregard for human decency. Bring on the crowd funded video streaming apps!
[Raises hand] I’ve been paying for a family music plan for years now. YouTube Premium was always just bundled with it. If they ever stopped the bundling I’d hop back over to Spotify.
I pay 6$ using a student discount for YouTube premium because I like watching YouTube on my android TV and I can’t use ad blocker there. In fact I’ve been using it for so long that it actually shocks me when I see someone open YouTube and an ad pops up it feels weird
The worst part of YouTube ads is super long ads (sometimes even multiple hours long). It has happened to me multiple times. And coincidentally it always happens when I’m feeling sleepy.
Seems like a way to check for attention. Not clicking the skip indicates you’re not actually watching. The benefit to them is probably more ad revenue.
I believe he is referring to the fact that YouTube don’t have to pay upfront for new content, they even get new content without hunting for it, and many smaller channels don’t have partnership and so on.
Sure they have a platform, backend and so on. But Netflix needs to have all that too plus buy things to show to their customers.
I believe he is referring to the fact that YouTube don’t have to pay upfront for new content, they even get new content without hunting for it, and many smaller channels don’t have partnership and so on.
Well, sure, but on the other hand, those smaller creators couldn’t attract any attention or grow their audience without a platform to do it on. And, like it or not, youtube has that and doesn’t charge those new creators anything to use the platform (unlike platforms like Vimeo, as one example).
Most of those large profitable channels wouldn’t have been able to grow totbhwir current size without a free to use platform to spread their content to a wider audience.
There’s give and take on both sides.
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Of course, the payment share on ads and memberships is fair and equitable is a separate discussion…
The ad revenue is a portion of what the advertisers paid.
YouTube DOES get its content for free. They pay YouTubers per view, essentially a portion of profit, whereas something like Netflix pays for the creation of content and then also a portion of profit made.
I know you’re mostly joking, but Google does sell your data/browsing habits for advertising, being able to show car dealership ads to someone who’s browsing history indicates they’re in the market is extremely valuable. It’s not just about things “about you” like demographics/location, but an active, rolling profile about where you’re most likely to spend your money.
They do, but the costs to store all of that high resolution video is enormous. Especially since it must be replicated to local repository for quicker access as popularity raises and removed when popularity falls on videos. The amount of content stored and served is significantly more than Netflix houses. That being said, ads are getting way too intrusive.
Honestly I’m surprised they haven’t done so already, they already have the tech to do it, probably need to scale it a bit.
Now I wonder if there aren’t SFW videos in pornhub from people that want to upload videos but don’t want to use YouTube. Or NSFW video that aren’t really porn, like a random guy reviewing videogames naked for some reason. I’m not checking either.
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