nostradiel,
@nostradiel@lemmy.world avatar
WindowsEnjoyer,

That’s “fuck you” money talking. Apple knows thst it’s audience is basically a cult that would never leave and eats everything the Apple says lol.

sic_1,

Also, there’s GrapheneOS

atrielienz,

That’s rich.

miss_brainfart,
@miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml avatar

In every sense of the word, huh.

mlg,
@mlg@lemmy.world avatar

I’m pretty sure both iOS and Android are probably permanently backdoor-ed by the NSA, or at least they have a nice list of 0-days to whatever they want lol.

On top of Mobile OSs being the most heavily targeted by nation states, especially back in the early days of cellphones, Android is a massive source tree of java junk garbage with way the hell too many versions. I really would not be surprised if something is discovered a decade from now.

Aside from nation state actors however, Google is probably even worse because they effectively feed on FOSS and force OEMs to do random bs like requiring a crap ton of garbage if you want access to google play, or pretending they actually care about RCS and not about pushing their equally useless gapps.

It really is its own spyware.

AngryCommieKender,

And, what is an iPhone?

zingo,

IPhone scans your photos even!

They say its to protect the children.

LOL!!

WindowsEnjoyer,

Laughs in GrapheneOS and Immich.

HW07,

iPhone is the same thing, but you don’t have a choice.

Mustard,

A miserable little pile of secrets!

Ew0,
@Ew0@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

iPhone is Dracula?

TheLobotomist,
@TheLobotomist@lemmy.world avatar

The same, but for rich cool people

jcdenton,
@jcdenton@lemy.lol avatar

That’s ironic

AphoticDev,
@AphoticDev@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

They’re absolutely right, but the last person who should be pointing that out is Apple, of all people.

Car,

Kind of a “takes one to know one” situation here

snrkl,

For those interested in privacy respecting android, check out GrapheneOS on Pixel: De-googled android that is strong on security and rips google out of your device… Ive been using it for two years and won’t go back. ::: spoiler Title

:::

AceFuzzLord,

At least with stock AOSP I can look into what’s going on and see what creepy things are going on. I try to do something similar with apple and I can kiss the air in my lungs goodbye permanently with the way they’d probably hound me.

HappyToaster1911,

Wasn’t iOS 14 like the transparency update that shown tiktok seeing everything people are dojng on their phone?

miss_brainfart,
@miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml avatar

They made sure users knew to only give them their data and not anyone else, yes

yrmitz,

Surely Apple won’t steal any of your data when they just say “trust me bro” 😊

Asudox,
@Asudox@lemmy.world avatar

Not wrong but ironic coming from apple. As if they don’t track and have spyware.

icedterminal,

From their own privacy policy they outline what they do:

For research and development purposes, we may use datasets such as those that contain images, voices or other data that could be associated with an identifiable person.

To provide location-based services on Apple products, Apple and our partners and licensees, such as maps data providers, may collect, use, and share precise location data, including the real-time geographic location of your Apple computer or device.

Apple’s websites, online services, interactive applications, email messages, and advertisements may use “cookies” and other technologies such as pixel tags and web beacons.

We also use personal information to help us create, develop, operate, deliver, and improve our products, services, content and advertising

At times Apple may provide third parties with certain personal information to provide or improve our products and services, including to deliver products at your request, or to help Apple market to consumers.

Apple may collect location, IP Address, network information, Bluetooth information, connected devices, accessories, personal demographics, browsing history, browser fingerprint, device fingerprint, search history, app data, usage data, performance, diagnostics, product interaction, transaction information, payment information, purchasing records, contacts, social graph, watch history, listening interests, reading list, call metadata, device information, messaging metadata, email addresses, salary, income, assets, health data, ad interaction, in-app purchases, in-app subscriptions, app downloads, music downloads, movie downloads, TV show downloads, Apple ID, IDFA, Random Unique ID, UUID, IMEI, Hardware serial number, SIM serial number, phone number, telemetry, cookies, Nearby WiFi MAC, Siri request history, Web sign-in, songs played, play and pause times, playlists, engagement and library.

Literally all of this is what Google does. The only thing Apple does differently is hinder 3rd party apps to a greater degree. But to be fair, Google has been improving the Privacy features of Android with each version.

pinkdrunkenelephants,

Well, the pot’s not wrong, is it?

AngryCommieKender,

In this case they are both pots. The kettle is shiny and the pot sees it’s own reflection, being the original meaning of the phrase.

FangedWyvern42,
@FangedWyvern42@lemmy.world avatar

Pot calling the kettle black.

AngryCommieKender,

Pot calling another pot black. The kettle is shiny and the pot is seeing it’s own reflection, at least in the original meaning of the phrase.

bigmclargehuge, (edited )

Apple literally scans your photo galleries for illegal photos.

Edit, looking into things, it seems like they might have backtracked on this one due to backlash when it was announced.

Contend6248,

But only local, look into the source code yourself, heh.

the_lone_wolf,
@the_lone_wolf@lemmy.ml avatar

You forget to add /s

Contend6248,

If you need an /S here, you deserve the troll.

bigmclargehuge,

Righ, just like how three letter agencies definitely don’t have zero-day exploits into your devices (until they remeber about that one they definitely did put in)

Contend6248,
  1. My comment was sarcasm
  2. You really think they need that feature to get to your data
bigmclargehuge,
  1. I can totally tell tone of voice an intention through text /s
  2. One of many methods.
  3. Don’t be an asshole.
Eggyhead,
@Eggyhead@artemis.camp avatar

Source?

nikolaioellegaard,
@nikolaioellegaard@lemm.ee avatar

I assume they’re referring to the now cancelled CSAM wired.com/…/apple-photo-scanning-csam-communicati…

Neil,
@Neil@lemmy.ml avatar

“Hey everyone! We canceled this! Please believe us.” -EvilCorp

bigmclargehuge,

theguardian.com/…/apple-plans-to-scan-us-iphones-…

It’s since been backtracked as cited from another article. I was unaware as I don’t use Apple products and only heard about the plans when they were originally announced. I will update my original comment to reflect the feature being backtracked

helenslunch,

No they don’t

snrkl,

Australia’s Basic Online Safety Expectations made it required by law:

If the service uses encryption, the provider of the service will take reasonable steps to develop and implement processes to detect and address material or activity on the service that is or may be unlawful or harmful

Source: www.legislation.gov.au/Details/…/Text#_Toc9347876… section 8

Eggyhead,
@Eggyhead@kbin.social avatar

“Service” sounds more like something such as iCloud than my personal, on-device photo library to me.

Paorzz,

Lmao pot call the kettle

NumbersCanBeFun,
@NumbersCanBeFun@kbin.social avatar

Instructions unclear. Smoking pot from a kettle.

thorbot,

task failed successfully

locuester,

HTTP Response 418 I’m a teapot

June, (edited )

P sure the only difference is that Apple hoards the data while Google gives it all away sells it.

Tywele,

Google also doesn’t give it away

June,

Sorry sorry, semantics. Google sells user data.

theonetruejason,

No they don’t. They sell the ability to display ads to users in a targeted fashion. The user data is how they do that and is their moat. Their entire market advantage is they don’t sell the data, instead you have to continually let them decide who sees your ads to leverage that data.

Google goes to great lengths to make sure only they have this data.

June,

EFF kind of disagrees with your sentiment, which IMO is providing Google with the benefit of the doubt:

Google monetizes what it observes about people in two major ways:

  1. It uses data to build individual profiles with demographics and interests, then lets advertisers target groups of people based on those traits.
  2. It shares data with advertisers directly and asks them to bid on individual ads.
    The second method of monetization involves most of the behaviors that regular people might think of as “selling data.” Google is involved at nearly every level of the complex, automated process of third-party ad placement known as “real-time bidding,” or RTB.

eff.org/…/google-says-it-doesnt-sell-your-data-he…

AngryCommieKender,

No kettle here. The kettle is shiny and the pot sees its own reflection in the kettle. That’s the meaning of the phrase. Just two pots, one of them pointing out the other is a pot.

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