How do I get informed on Joe Rogan without watching his videos.
I’m a bit concerned about how much my husband has been watching his videos, but he’s a hard man to argue with. I want to understand what it is Joe Rogan is saying, but I don’t want to give the man my viewership. How/where do I get the info I can use to debate my husband?
The Joe Rogan subreddit has basically turned on him since Covid, and the comments are usually a good source of critique and counter arguments against him and his guests.
You can just watch a little bit of him, it wont hurt you that much to give him viewership and will help you understand what your husband is watching better. You can also find some video clips or compilations on YouTube.
Use piped.video to watch his content. It is a privacy respecting alternative front end for YouTube that will strip out ads and such so you don’t give your support to the content creator if you don’t want to. I use it to keep up with Trump stuff without fully supporting those who choose to host him.
neat. i’m always vaguely curious about some of that stuff, but if you watch even 5 minutes of a video about Jordan Peterson you get spammed with OWN THE LIBS videos and nonsense for weeks. it’s to the point where i don’t even bother.
Piped is the service for you then. I have noticed 0 change in the holy algorithm from the things I have watched on Piped, so that must mean that the privacy measures are working.
Behind the Bastards and Some More News have covered him albeit tangentially. Knowledge Fight has covered when Alex Jones has been on Rogan and it really illustrates how dangerously unprepared he is to deal with people like Alex
Not true. Dan acted as a probono advisor to plaintiff’s council in one of the Texas cases. He never testified. He did sit in on a deposition and suggest a few questions and lines of questioning
I agree with many of the other commenters that OP debating their husband might not be the best idea.
But if that’s what they want, “Decoding the gurus” did at least one Rogan specific episode, and I think they do a better job covering and dismantling Rogan’s rhetorical approach than the podcasts above.
I’m listened to Jones on the Joe Rogan show when he was on with Eddie Bravo. It ended up with them getting wasted and spouting some really off the wall shit. Bravo was deep into chem trails. Jones confidently proclaimed that “interdimensional child molesters” were the biggest threat to humanity. If they were trying to get people to believe in that stuff they were doing a terrible job of it. Unless you’re already primed to think that way, it was obvious they weren’t thinking rationally.
You can ask him to explain the episodes to you. It might help him reflect on the information and give you something to talk about.
If he’s difficult to “debate” it might be that the format of your conversations are to blame. Sometimes arguing, especially by throwing “facts” and trying to prove someone that their views are wrong, just creates tension and pushback causing the opposite effect. There’s something called Street Epistemology that can help open the door to actual conversations and reflection, instead of antagonistic debating.
JR lost touch with reality a few years ago. Hosts nonsense guests on his show who spread BS. To debate him, you simply require a brain and any simple reasoning skills.
He’s big enough that a lot of people tend to make videos explaining what he is wrong about and how. Searching YT for “Joe Rogan is wrong” or similar and picking some large looking channels from the list tends to give useful results.
That is the path I would take. All JR does, and all people like him do, is provide people with a encyclopedia of logical fallacies to use during arguments.
An “argument” with these kinds of people usually just drives you into a state of confusion trying to debunk lists of interconnected “facts” they are spewing out. Not only does it put that person in a place to “win an argument by default”, they are generally masters at shifting the burden of proof on to you.
Two approaches I take are: Recognize what a person is about to spout off and counter each “fact” they come up with, immediately. Or, you ignore that person and walk off.
I get the sense that your concerns aren’t who your husband watches but what your husband’s opinions are.
Instead of debating over what Rogan says, maybe just have a conversation with your husband about your concerns. Express your thoughts on issues important to you and see how that goes. Maybe your husband just likes the drama and doesn’t put much weight into Rogan’s hot takes.
This is good advice! I listened to his podcast for a little while because I was interested in a particular guest and I wanted to hear what the guest had to say, not what Rogan thought. I found a few other guests I liked but I quickly stopped listening because Rogan always makes interviews about his interests and it grew old.
The real answer. Everyone is different, can’t really judge a person’s views by who they watch. I know people that watch a lot of Fox because they want to know what kind of crap they’re spreading.
Don’t kid yourself, you “giving” him a few views isn’t gonna make any difference, taking a principled stance on it is like peeing in the ocean.
Just watch a few of his videos or listen to some of his podcasts, instead of letting other people give your their viewpoint on him just get your own viewpoint, do it without any bias either… pick an episode that you are interested in pick something you don’t agree with and pick something that could go either way. You might agree with some stuff and not other things but at least you determined that for yourself
I used to listen to his podcast but lost interest plus I’d only listen to the stuff I had any interest in, science and technology stuff. He had some odd views/stuff I didn’t agree with but that’s living in reality you aren’t always gonna agree with people.
Either way... I am more concerned about how OP thinks she has some sort of right to dictate her husband's podcast viewing BC she doesn't approve of podcast BC teevee told her Rogan is "bad"
This is some fucking degeneracy, I wonder her husband would react to being treated like that
This is not how a partner behaves, you got a lot it to learn OP
Of all the right wing assclowns, rogan is the one that people least need to “keep up with”. He doesn’t create conspiracies or thought. He just regurgitates what others say.
But, more importantly: What do you expect to come out of this? if you aren’t comfortable speaking to your husband about what he is watching, what will you do once you find out?
I think we should refrain from over-extrapolating about their relationship based on one - admittedly concerning - short paragraph.
I can understand wanting to discuss it with him from an informed stance. It makes it easier to be heard when you can demonstrate a little working knowledge.
I agree, and if I may add to your comment, it is very unlikely their conversation will go anywhere if the OP were to approach their spouse with the same tone and attitude as the person you replied to. That comment is neither informative or welcomes communication. The OP wants to be informed, even if their opinion is the same as the comment they will get nowhere talking to an avid Rogan listener with that, just two loudmouths yelling at each other.
Exactly. This is her husband, after all. A good marriage is all about communication. All she’s trying to do is achieve communication and, hopefully, understanding/compromise.
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