sebinspace,

Actually a skill issue.

Seriously, don’t even leave this site, just go to the search bar and look up whatever you’re into, there’s probably a comm specifically for it. Even you sounding freaks.

JokeDeity,

Completely depends on the instance, many don’t allow NSFW.

sebinspace,

M8 search results will show comms from other instances

JokeDeity,

I don’t know man, maybe it’s my app? Depending on which account I’m signed into when I search it’s different results. 🤷

sebinspace,

Your app or account settings might be hiding NSFW results.

CaptKoala,

It’s likely this, spent a few days wondering where all my pron went, when my phone unlocked in my pocket it had enabled SFW mode :/

wokehobbit,

Some of y’all need to learn to read. This discussion is about porn on apps specifically. Not complete access availability.

MightEnlightenYou,

As an older fellow who was probably looking at internet porn (image loaded line by line) before you were born. Y’all kids need to learn how to use the Web browser and how to type the URL to porn sites. Once you learn this you’ll have all the porn in the world avaliable for free in a few seconds when you want it. And also learn how to use incognito mode

rbesfe,

Porn is easier to access than it’s ever been, unless you live in a country with heavy internet censorship

jhulten,

I think a lot of folks are forgetting that Visa and MC are prudes and gatekeep money.

Aux,

Because you’re a 13 year old perv and your parents have blocked porn for you.

TruTollTroll,
@TruTollTroll@lemmy.world avatar

I see so much porn on this site lemmy alone… scroll by new and hot, and you find tons of it… it’s actually kind of annoying how often I see naked chicks and dicks and more on this site compared to others that do good at censoring it from the front pages…

dragonflyteaparty,

Huh, I never see porn, but then I sort by the 12 hour thing.

TruTollTroll,
@TruTollTroll@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, if I sort by new, or hot, I will get plenty of boob/vag images… not that I’m hating, I believe women should be able to post this is they want, but I also am not a huge porn consumer as woman myself… it’s just not my bag. Lol so it can be a little surpriseing to see full bodies after reading musk foiled Ukrainian plans, the Wisconsin GOP trying to impeach an elected (D) supreme court judge, and then bam! Crotch shot lmao 🤣😂

SkyNTP,

Depends on your home instance I guess. Lemmy.ml has an outright ban, so some only slips through once in a blue moon.

dragonflyteaparty,

I guess so. I didn’t know that. Thanks for the info.

skullgiver, (edited )
@skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl avatar

In short: it’s a massive pain that comes with responsibilities other content doesn’t.

Hosting porn is a responsibility nightmare. You need to have a system in place to verify that all people depicted in porn are consenting adults who agree to having content hosted with you. Pornhub killed most of its catalogue to implement such a system and competitors are getting sued for not doing the same. Movie theaters have shown porn movies that have later turned out to be rape, and the porn industry is full of videos depicting actors or actresses that did not consent to beforehand. Think “casting couch” except someone who thought they were getting into modelling gets getting dragged into a room right after signing a vague contract. The studio will say it’s all an act, but that’s not what the victim says when the video comes out. Luckily, hosting copyrighted content is already illegal, so you can squish that problem before it becomes too big a deal.

Next, you need to differentiate between porn and revenge porn. There are organisations and companies that focus on helping revenge porn victims get their shit offline, and if you’re hosting porn, you could save yourself a lawsuit or bad publicity by working together with them. That’s going to cost time and money, but it’s better than the alternative.

Then you need to make sure that the porn that gets uploaded isn’t child porn. There are APIs to check uploads against known, existing footage, but you still need to be ready to take action if content that law enforcement didn’t know about gets uploaded. One or those tasks is judging whether or not the people depicted in that type of porn are adults or not.

Of course you’ll need to follow local laws. How many small Lemmy operators followed the law when some douche spammed child porn on the shitpost community? I doubt many of them read the law before purging the images! Some places demand you keep an isolated copy for law enforcement, but any sane person would want to purge such content from their servers as quickly as possible.

Any hosting service needs to be protected against CSAM, but when you set up a site people come to jerk off to, the probability of this trash getting uploaded becomes a lot higher.

Then you need to implement measures to prevent exposing minors to porn, because that’s a crime in many countries. That means registering age/date of birth and hoping nobody sues you because it’s easy to lie about it. Most websites use 18 as a cutoff for access to porn, but not every country considers 18 to be the age you can watch smut.

Apps need to be sabotaged because major app stores don’t want you to see porn. Apple is more strict in this than Google, but you’ll still need to watch out. If you accidentally break your filters or a mistagged post appears during review, you’d better have a good explanation to the reviewers about why they should let you publish your app.

Then there’s the business side of things. Puritans may get pissy, but that’s the least of your troubles. All major international credit card processing companies have either explicit or implicit terms that state you can’t do business with them if you host porn. This is because a) these companies are your typical puritan American big business and b) people who buy porn often get found out or regret their decision, which is followed by a fraudulent charge back, and that costs you and the processing company money. If you’re taking money from paying customers, you’d better read the fine print because you may just be cut off at any random moment in time.

If you make money through ads, you either use one of the few companies that accept porn (and make every ad on your site a gambling ad or a porn ad) or you figure out how to comply. Perhaps you can disable advertising around porn, or lie about your policies and hope nobody over at Google double checks.

Onlyfans makes use of weird rules about art and other technicalities that expensive people came up with. Platforms like Patreon nearly got screwed over for allowing porn. It’s possible to make money with platforms allowing porn, but it’s certainly not cheap or easy.

Lastly, there’s porn laws. Japan, land of the tentacles and schoolgirls, has strict laws forcing genitalia to be censored. In the UK, spanking and face sitting is considered illegal. In some countries porn is banned in its entirety, in others there are laws government drawn porn (hentai/rule34) and more specifically if drawings of children constitute child porn. In some American states you need to do special identification to make sure your visitors are adults. If you sell access, there are special tax rates for porn that differ per state/country.

The solution to all of these problems for most sites is to either ban porn so they don’t need to take special care, or to have special cases for porn with dedicated rules. Usually the most liberal of American states is used as a reference point and from thst point onwards you cross your fingers and hope nobody sues you, and that your holidays abroad aren’t cut short by a border agent checking your history.

FangedWyvern42,
@FangedWyvern42@lemmy.world avatar

The UK law got overturned .

skullgiver,
@skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl avatar

Good to know, that law was asbsolutely ridiculous.

charlytune,
@charlytune@mander.xyz avatar

Ha, I sent a very long and furious email to my (Labour) MP when that law got introduced, basically saying excuse me I’m a woman that squirts, what are you as a fellow woman going to do about a law that says that’s a deviant and obscene act? And got completely ignored - usually I got a generic response from her on other issues, on that I just got tumbleweed.

(And before I get any thirsty messages, I’m menopausal and that bitch has dried up. Nothing to see, move on.)

SirQuackTheDuck,

Good on you for weirding out your MP! Let them know how perverted they should really be in the parliament (they’re your representative after all).

Archpawn,

If you make money through ads, you either use one of the few companies that accept porn

I don’t get this one. Why won’t people advertise on porn sites? A people who watch porn less likely to be customers? Or are they just as good, and there’s a huge market untapped outside of gambling and porn and everyone should advertise their services on porn sites? Or is it that the only companies that are good at figuring out what specific ads to show just refuse, and in an alternate reality where they didn’t you could just as easily advertise on NSFW websites?

skullgiver,
@skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl avatar

There are a few reasons I can think of went I would avoid porn sites as an advertiser:

  1. Porn is icky and risky because of cultural norms. Brands also like to condition you to think of them in certain scenarios (that’s why they pay to bill to be in the background of sports events in the most replayed parts of the game) and “eagerly waiting to skip/scroll past an ad with cock in hand” isn’t what most brands want to be associated with.
  2. You can reach a much wider audience than just “mostly men for a few minutes” on other sites. Everyone can watch YouTube ads.
  3. Porn sites allow porn ads much more often than not, and that adds competition. How can coca cola possibly compete for attention when their competition can get away with a moving video of two women getting fucked by five men?
  4. Many porn companies are scummy. They survive by uploading unsuspecting people’s porn, even if it has long been taken down at the source. Copyright infringement is the norm on many porn sites. That’s a hard sell for even advertising agencies.

Yes, plenty of women watch porn, but the majority of this stuff is still consumed by men in a very specific state of mind, for various reasons.

FleetingTit,
@FleetingTit@feddit.de avatar

It isn’t advertising friendly, that’s why. Also online children protection act or some such law.

redballooon,

Ads for penis enlargement though

CmdrShepard,

A month or two ago I was helping my sister-in-law’s late 60’s father fix his GMC Canyon, and he pulled up a repair video on youtube on his phone. We left it playing as we worked, and then it went to a several minute long ad for penis pills which was awkward as fuck since I wasn’t sure if it was based off his search history or just that he’s an old man and targeted advertising. He also recently got a new girlfriend which muddied the water as I was pondering those two possibilities.

over_clox,

“Would you like a bigger penis? Where would you like it? I can suggest some places…”

piped.video/yjdciA8LNQ4

Archpawn,

Why isn’t it advertising friendly? Is there some reason getting someone to go to your website from a porn site or app is less helpful than getting them to go there from somewhere else?

cooopsspace,

I’ve got a few theories:

My guess is that certain companies are concerned about repercussions related to porn related content due to an impending buyout or IPO. Personally I don’t blame them.

Advertisers hate it, payment providers hate it.

Fediverse has recently been attacked by CP spammers, and instances like the one I’m on has actually shut off image sharing all together.

Moderation is a problem globally, even if this content slips through automated filtering there will always be exposure, and always people affected. And unfortunately the tolerance for CP or even copyrighted content is precisely zero due to public backlash and the news articles.

space,

Exactly. There are a lot of sketchy porn related businesses, and porn is ripe with abuse. Also, porn sites have a moderation problem. It is difficult to verify that the videos people upload don’t contain CP (it’s hard to tell someone’s age just by looking at them), rape, if the people actually consented to the video being uploaded etc. PH decided to just delete all non-verified uploaders, and it is understandable why.

A lot of businesses just don’t want to be associated with that, or have to moderate that, or have any involvement. And this also affects their relationship with other businesses.

mint_tamas,

Are there even sites with user-uploaded content anymore? I feel like it’s only studio content (which is safer, but we miss out on real amateur videos)

Serdan,

Hypnotube.com 😜

cooopsspace,

A hundred percent.

And enabling NSFW isn’t enough, many people would rather choose what type of NSFW to see.

An yeah, the difference between simulated rpe and rpe doesn’t come across in videos I suspect.

AA5B,

Even without CP, they flood everything, with no respect for topics or categories. Certainly there are times when I don’t want to see porn, but more importantly there are lots of times when I want to be able to find other things

Ganbat,
@Ganbat@lemmy.fmhy.net avatar

I think it’s bad parenting. The loud, obnoxious ones who can’t be bothered to keep an eye on little Schlemmy, so they sit him in front of the TV computer for hours. And when he inevitably comes across something he shouldn’t, is that their fault for not paying enough attention and making sure he uses appropriate sites? Of course not.

Same shit different generation.

fernandorincon,

My lemmy feed has so much porn that I had to turn on the filter

TruTollTroll,
@TruTollTroll@lemmy.world avatar

How do you do that? I thought I had one on, but I still see sooooo much porn that it makes scrolling uncomfortable in public. I have young kids, so I have to make sure they aren’t in the room if I am scrolling cause too often it’s a random obscene naked chick or dick that is really not all that tasteful of an image… lol and no, I am not prude, but the porn on lemmy I have seen is really…subpar lol 😅

scytale,

If content is still getting through even if you set the filter in your account settings correctly, you can also hide or blur nsfw content on the app you’re using. Most (if not all) 3rd apps out now have a nsfw filter.

TruTollTroll,
@TruTollTroll@lemmy.world avatar

Thank you! I’m using connect, but I have noticed it lags on a lot of features. What is a good 3rd party that is the most popular right now.

scytale,

I’m on IOS so I unfortunately don’t know what to recommend for Android, however my favorite app right now is Thunder, which I believe is cross platform.

dingleberry,

What kind of gourmet shit are you hunting for?

thorbot,

Gourmet shit, obviously.

Scat Apps hate this one simple trick!

iforgotmyinstance,

You are doing internet wrongly.

JTskulk,

Bro if you’re having a hard time finding porn on the Internet, the problem is you!

darcy,
@darcy@sh.itjust.works avatar

i support the freedom to consume porn, but i still believe its bad. sorta like alcohol

aracebo,

“consuming porn” sounds more perverse than it actually is somehow

darcy,
@darcy@sh.itjust.works avatar

maybe bc it is?

Kolanaki,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

eating Playboy and Penthouse magazines

NoneOfUrBusiness,

Because it is. Porn does weird shit to your brain.

Notyou,

By that logic we should call it consuming religion instead of practicing it. Not saying too much porn doesn’t change your brain, but too much religion changes it way more.

NoneOfUrBusiness,

That's... kinda uh... linguistically messed up?

wokehobbit,

Found the Republitard

Armen12,

So does thinking anyone cares about your opinion on the internet, gives a person a serious case of “holier than thou” syndrome

NoneOfUrBusiness,

No? Porn addiction's harms are already proven just look it up.

Armen12,

“Having sex with people is bad” - totally not a conservative incel

darcy,
@darcy@sh.itjust.works avatar

strawman argument. having sex with human which you love is obviously way different than watching porn. both can be done in excess, as with anything. the difference is that porn is manufactured to make money off you, to keep you addicted, like a social media. a meaningful relationship is mutually beneficial.

people are entitled to have their own opinions on this, and by all means do what you want when its not affecting anyone else. but much like a drugs, people can become unhealthily addicted. a bit here and their isnt that bad im sure, but when your watching porn every few days, you should ask yourself what youre doing it for, and if youre still in control

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