StalfoSpork,

Ah yes because butches and the like are famously accepted by their family and peers and never subjected to sexual harassment that tries to “fix” them

Lux,

Everyone has different experiences, but this post pretty much perfectly shows how people act where i live. There arent really any types of clothes that women aren’t “supposed” to wear, but men get a lot of weird looks if they wear skirts, frills or anything not seen as “masculine”

StalfoSpork,

Fair tho just because you personally don’t see it doesn’t mean this doesn’t happen to other people. There’s way worse things you can get besides weird looks

norbert,
@norbert@kbin.social avatar

Bro I see girls with short hair wearing boots all the time and nobody bats an eye. The second a dude in a dress walks by everyone stares and whispers. There's worse things that can happen to a guy in a dress than weird looks too, and I'd wager they're more likely to happen.

rosymind,

My husband pointed out that certain items like sneakers, backpacks and scrubs are either unisex or women’s. Many other items are that way, too. A men’s watch might be large on a woman’s wrist but no-one would really think twice. A tiny pink watch on a man’s wrist would likely garner more attention (depending on where you are in the western world, of course)

deweydecibel, (edited )

Honestly I think the pink would draw more attention than the size of the watch in that example. Most people aren’t paying close enough attention to others’ wristwear to notice size.

I think there are certain traditionally “masculine” things that would draw more attention than others if a woman wore them, but I’m struggling to think of any that would cause actual upset. You still hear the occasional grumble about women in business suits from time to time, to spite women’s cut suits having been a thing for decades, but that’s mostly well accepted now.

Tuxedo, maybe? They cut them for women too, but that one feels like it’s mostly still in the male category because its opposite is often expected in certain formal settings. A women showing up to something formal in a tux and not a dress would probably still do it today, depending on the event and the people in attendance.

Like imagine a ball or some other bougie shit where a husband and wife both show up in tuxes.

rosymind,

I think a tux cut to a woman’s form can be super sexy.

I also think men should rock pink more often :)

Cethin,

I think certain styles of hats are still exclusive to men mostly. I think that’s more because wearing hats went out of fashion rather than it being an issue though. I’m sure if people started wearing hats more often, those styles would be worn by either gender, but women’s hats would probably still exclusively be women’s.

blanketswithsmallpox,

Ah yes because butches and the like are famously accepted by their family and peers and never subjected to sexual harassment that tries to “fix” them

… That’s not what the meme is about. The meme is about being aggressively in your face about your fashion choice lol.

driving_crooner,
@driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br avatar

How can happen when you haven’t left mom’s basement since August 2019?

Kusimulkku,

I don’t know about butches but women wearing male clothing is just an everyday thing where I live. So much so that a lot of male clothes are just unisex clothes. Not so for women’s clothing

StalfoSpork,

If it’s considered unisex then it’s not women wearing men’s clothes it’s women wearing unisex clothes which is different than what I’m saying

Kusimulkku,

They became “unisex” (often still labeled men’s clothes and on men’s section of the store) because so many women used them.

StalfoSpork,

So they’re still seen as unisex. Also what was the reaction before they were considered unisex? Oh yeah not great. Women were banned from wearing pants in various places for a long time and women wearing men’s clothes dealt with hate. Look up people like Marlene Dietrich

Kusimulkku,

It’s unisex because of how common it was and still is. Meaning there’s no issue about it since there basically isn’t male clothing anymore.

I guess what I’m wondering about is what sort of clothes these butches are wearing to cause issues?

mojo,

Trans post?

The_Picard_Maneuver,
@The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website avatar

Sort of?

I see it as also applying to anyone who just wants to dress however they want without labels or resistance.

swab148,
@swab148@startrek.website avatar

Like, I’m a cis bi man, but I still own at least three skirts and I wish I could find a dress that fit me

sigmaklimgrindset,

Learn to sew from patterns and get a 2nd hand sewing machine, best decision of my life. You can google free patterns, and if you get your hands on a digital sewing machine you can literally automate it.

Franzia,

Usually this kind of person is fashionable rather than trans.

casmael,

Clothes are uncivilised imo

EatYouWell,

Word. I’d be a nudist if it wouldn’t get me arrested.

Turious,

And you should see the way people lose all sense when it happens. Society is wild.

The_Picard_Maneuver,
@The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website avatar

All over imaginary boxes our brains try to place people in.

slurpeesoforion,

When I kilted more often, my primary response was that women loved it. And I liked the attention from women.

The_Picard_Maneuver,
@The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website avatar

It’s the confidence!

slurpeesoforion,

It’s that women get thirsty too.

EatYouWell,

And confidence is one thing that makes women thirsty.

Perhapsjustsniffit,

It’s true. Makes a fella feel good. I wear a kilt every day. Any trip outside our little town…compliments from women. Something most men never recieve.

yagurlreese,

facts. is there an egg_irl here? I’m new haha

TimewornTraveler, (edited )

yeah, seek blahaj.zone: !egg_irl

not entirely sure how to link around here

EDIT: thanks! fixed link.

swab148,
@swab148@startrek.website avatar
yagurlreese,

hmmm how do I follow that I’m using the boost app :) thanks!

TimewornTraveler,

I’m not too sure about navigating that specific app, but on desktop you can just follow a link like this one: lemmy.world/c/[email protected] and you’ll view the blahaj instance from the cozy view of your lemmy.world account. You can subscribe there and it should appear in your feeds.

Alternatively, if you’re super into queer spaces you could just create an account on blahaj to make that like your “home” instance but that wont really affect your Lemmy viewing experience much. it’s akin to creating a yahoo email vs google email: you can still send and receive all the same stuff but you just log in somewhere else

deweydecibel,

I wouldn’t suggest using blahaj as a home instance. It’s one of the instances that pussyfoots around with defederating from hexbear, and I think it disables downvotes, which just means the content isn’t voted on democratically, which fucks up the aggregation and doesn’t give you an accurate view of Lemmy as a whole.

Cool communities there, poor admins. Stick with lemmy.world or pick a different home.

swab148,
@swab148@startrek.website avatar

🎶To be fair🎶 .world isn’t without it’s own problems, mostly getting DDOS’d all the time, so if you’re gonna look for an instance, I’d try to pick a lesser-known one than .world or the other big ones. Probably being a hypocrite here, since mine is arguably the biggest meme community on Lemmy right now, but I think that’ll change given time.

swab148,
@swab148@startrek.website avatar

Yeah, I’m using Boost too, and that’s the one PR I want merged, but I’m not a coder so I don’t know how hard it is to implement. The only other app I’ve used is Jerboa, so I know that the coding is there (I believe they’re called APIs) but I don’t know how I could personally help with this issue.

Makeitstop,

Guys, do yourself a favor and get a kilt. You will never want to go back. I stopped wearing pants years ago.

LetterboxPancake,

Give us kilt novices tips! Where to start, where to buy, what to buy, shave? Commando? High socks?

Makeitstop,

You can find relatively cheap ones online. Damn near kilt em is one I can vouch for as a good first kilt. Or stillwater kilts for something cheap and more traditional looking.

The number one thing to know when buying is that you need to actually measure yourself. Pants lie, kiltmakers generally don’t.

If you want something a little nicer, there are plenty of businesses that make kilts to measure. My last few came from alpha kilts, but I think they quit. Alt.kilt does crazy custom stuff. Utilikilt is probably the most famous one, though I’ve never actually tried theirs.

There’s whole communities online for this stuff. I used to get reviews and find new stores on xmarksthescot.

If you get a contemporary kilt, meaning pockets and modern style, you just need a belt. If you go traditional tartan you probably need a sporran or some other kind of bag or pouch since they don’t have pockets. Traditional kilts also typically use a kilt pin to add weight to the front apron to keep it from blowing around too easily.

Tall socks are good formal wear or cold weather. I am a very casual guy and an arctic creature, so I usually just wear closed toe sandals. But if you live in a cold place and need to stay warm, a full size “9 yard” kilt will do the trick, it creates a pocket of warm air, and the legs being together gives it a mitten effect.

You can go commando (aka going regimental, because in highland regiments underwear is considered out of uniform), but I don’t recommend it. For one thing, you don’t know fear until you’ve been caught in a gust of 50 mph wind while walking past a school playground on a day that you decided to save time by forgoing underwear, and now you are desperately holding down all sides of a lightweight kilt and trying not to end up on sex offender registry. But on a much more mundane level, it’s also just a lot easier to keep your kilt clean when it isn’t directly touching your junk or your crack. I wear briefs but I go up a couple sizes, so that the elastic still holds them up but they hang off me when I’m standing, which feels like I’m wearing nothing at all.

Of course, if anyone asks what’s worn under the kilt, you have lots of options:

  • Nothing’s worn, it’s all in excellent condition.
  • If you want to find out it will cost you dinner and a movie first.
  • Shoes
  • On a good day, lipstick
LetterboxPancake,

I joked before, but your excellent answer made me seriously consider buying a kilt. I need to find out how the supply situation is here in Germany. Or I’ll ask the seamstress that made my ex wife’s wedding dress, she’s working for the theater in my city as well. Maybe she’d like a challenge.

Thank you 💖

EatYouWell,

Amazon sells good quality ones. I just got one through their “try then buy” program.

Or, use Amazon to find good brands and buy directly from them.

EatYouWell,

Remember, go up 2-4 inches from your pants size when buying a kilt. So, if you wear a size 32 pants, get a size 36 kilt. Their waist measurements are actually your waist measurement.

Also, the patterns have specific meanings. No one in the US is going to care, but if you go to Scotland someone may address you by the last name the pattern represents (they’re like family crests). There are generic patterns out there, though.

KoalaUnknown,

Nah get a mini skirt and thigh highs to assert dominance over the other girls.

superduperenigma,

If I just lookup some Rust programming tutorials will the mini skirts and thigh highs come naturally?

EatYouWell,

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ColonelSanders,

Hawt

EmoBean,

I wish I could wear miniskirts, my balls hang too low when it’s hot.

shalafi,

I got a couple and usually don’t like 'em. Outside in the heat is great though!

Cethin,

Ironically, their Scottish where it’s cold. A wool kilt would probably solve your issues for the cold.

EatYouWell,

You’d need some knee high socks to go with it, though.

medvedev,

Unironically, kilt was actually originally worn by man. (Outside of england ofc)

prole,

Yeah, no shit?

EatYouWell,

Kilts are specifically men’s clothing, so I’m not sure what you’re talking about.

hungryphrog,

Fuck pants, tunics and kilts rule.

Jesse,

What are fuck pants? If they rule as much as kilts and tunics I want some.

EatYouWell,

They have a permanently open fly.

LetterboxPancake,

Remember those Adidas pants you could open on the sides? We called those “Schnellfickerhosen” (Quick/Fast fucker pants) in Germany.

ArmokGoB,

Chaps

Fish,

I already wear a jock strap. How much more comfortable can I get?

EatYouWell,

Way more comfortable.

Also, thongs are the solution to swamp-ass. Get some good wool ones and you’ll never look back.

Perhapsjustsniffit,

I wear a kilt every single day. I love them. I don’t even own pants anymore. I’m almost 50 and my "give a fuck what other people think"is used up.

Cethin,

I really want to wear kilts, but decent ones are really expensive and I don’t want to spend that money on something I might not like (or more specifically I might not like bad attention from, because I do sadly care about that).

EatYouWell,

I live in rural Texas, and no one has said a word about my kilt so far. Not even any weird looks.

Kusimulkku,

I feel like I’d get too cold with one

EatYouWell,

Yeah, society got it wrong when it made men wear pants and women skirts. Just from an anatomical perspective.

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