lntl,

pro tip: 7-11 has self serve coffee

HootinNHollerin, (edited )
@HootinNHollerin@sh.itjust.works avatar

I’ve started giving 1 star review for anyplace that does this. Especially if before I’ve even received my food. Please join me… They use shame and guilt as a weapon. We can also

hakunawazo,

I don’t understand how it could ever become acceptable for wages to be paid directly by the customer rather than by the company.

ZombiFrancis,

I think the only people who can be defensible over American style tipping in this day and age are people with an uncommon degree of wealth and are patrons of specialty boutiques who likely never frequent places operated by your average wage earner.

So you know, wine country vegan artisan type shit. The $800 dollar hair salon appointment holders. The $60 dollar tequila shot buyer.

And while they can be defensible over their tipping, it often is the case they themselves are not defensible in their economic participation.

anarchy79,

I’d say that when you buy overpriced shit you’re especially exempt from tipping, since you already tipped through the ridiculous markup.

Thcdenton,

I dont eat at resturants and I dont cut my hair so the only people I tip are tow truck drivers.

MrShankles,

Tattoos?

mriormro,
@mriormro@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve never understood tipping your tattoo artist. It’s like tipping your physical therapist.

You should just make your fees be exactly what you want to make.

dangblingus,

Many times shops dictate fees. If you are getting tattooed by the owner of the shop, their fee might be exactly what they take home at night, in which case, I don’t feel compelled to tip, but if you were tattooed by one of their artists, I’d tip. They pay the shop owner to work there in many cases.

MrShankles,

Do you still use 15-20% of the cost, or something more flat-rate? Tipping for tattoos surprised me, because factoring in a tip% can really change how much money I need for a more expensive tattoo, especially when it’s cash only.

Thcdenton,

I don’t get tattoos. But if I did, I might. Is that a thing?

dangblingus,

Yes. Same thing with hair salons. Many tattoo artists are regular working class people who pay money to the shop owner to be able to have a chair/bed to tattoo people on.

Threeme2189,

Why the f would I tip my barber? I’m already paying him for the haircut!

Thcdenton,

I was raised to do that. Did it for decades. 🤷‍♀️

ZombiFrancis,

I had a $20 to the korean lady who buzzes my head. The $5 tip for the $15 haircut is easier than navigating change. Keeps the flow moving ao she can just yell next and we’re good.

dangblingus,

Barbers generally have to rent chairs in salons, so a massive chunk of the fee you pay them goes directly to the salon owner.

Threeme2189,

Really? I’ve never heard of barbers having to rent chairs. Where I’m from they’re employees of the barbershop and get payed an hourly wage.

CaptnNMorgan,

Then wtf you mean? If they payed by the hour then you did NOT just pay them for the cut. You paid they’re employer.

Threeme2189,

I payed the establishment for the service. The barber is payed a fair wage by the barbershop and did exactly what his job requires. Why is a tip necessary?

CaptnNMorgan,

In those perfect circumstances, it isn’t. The world we live in is far from that.

BakedGoods,

Yes. But what does that have to do with tipping?

TedZanzibar,

The problems with tipping culture aside, the eyes in this strip are just perfect. I love it.

satans_crackpipe,

I was thinking the same thing. So much is conveyed just by the eyes.

haypp,
@haypp@lemmy.ml avatar

is that really necessary for American?

noisypine,

Yes. It’s extremely common to have some device that asks you how much you want to tip before you can complete the transaction. They are nearly always placed in a spot and angled so the employees can see it too, guilting customers in to tipping.

poopsmith,
@poopsmith@lemmy.world avatar

I hate how tipping is now customary at every single restaurant now, including places without servers.

Skanky,

Just wait until you visit a restaurant that automatically adds 18% gratuity then also expects you to tip on to of that.

Rice_Daddy,

Just reading this makes me angry. Bravo.

Mobiuthuselah,

That’s when I just let them have the hole they dug. I’d normally at least tip 20% (usa of course.)

I get that the service staff has little to no control over this charge, but I got it earlier tonight on a party of two. No extra service, no check-ins, no waters, nothing other than “here ya go.” They even had a QR code to order and pay with phone number, email, and address requirement even though I’m out of town on a one off drop in.

Zibitee,

You know, if they include a mandatory fee, it gets taxed too. So that 18% gets sales taxed on top of it, bringing it close to 20% anyway. You end up paying the same amount and the government just gets more. Overall dumbbbbb

dangblingus,

Okay, that’s insane. Part of the social contract we have in tipping culture is that your server is supposed to be a superstar. Crazy nightmare dinner rushes aside, no waters???

Quexotic,

Been there, won’t return.

Even a large party… We brought you business, so you lower your service standards?

Fuck that. Pay your staff.

Also, it’s uh, racist. archive.is/…/minimum-wage-racism.html

Skanky,

Oh you sweet summer child. I’m not talking about the “large group” gratuity (which is also bullshit)… I’m talking about restaurants that are now adding an 18% gratuity for every bill - even if you just came in to have a drink.

Quexotic,

Sounds like a good reason to pay the bill with the CC and dispute it as fraud after the fact. Chargebacks hurt businesses.

dangblingus, (edited )

The “fuck you pay your staff” sentiment is very valid, however, you shouldn’t reward a business that doesn’t pay their staff well with your money. The reality is, every single restaurant pays their staff a slave wage for the work they have to perform. Even chain restaurants work their employees like dogs. People who excel in the restaurant biz are hard working mfers.

Quexotic,

Yeah. That’s actually the “fuck you” part, as in, I’m not returning. As it is, I rarely eat out, partially for this reason, partially because inflation is painful.

dangblingus,

But that’s literally what the gratuity is for. Conscientious restaurants want to make sure their staff gets a little something something from a large party, auto grats are for that reason. If they expect a tip on top of that, something is wrong.

Skanky, (edited )

Some restaurants are now starting to do this for every bill - not just for large groups.

If a restaurant owner won’t pay their staff enough without tips, that’s the real problem.

hydrospanner,

If a restaurant owner can’t

That’s a funny way of spelling won’t.

Skanky,

You’re right. Editing my post

hydrospanner,

Yeah I’ve been to a restaurant (a few weeks ago) where the bill included a line item that said something like “18% hospitality fee - to ensure our workers are fairly compensated, this is not a tip”

Like WTF.

If it was disclosed anywhere on the menu, I didn’t see it.

madcaesar,

The best is when they add the percentage POST TAX!!!

dangblingus,

I keep hearing this, but I’ve never encountered it. Still only given a tip screen on debit machines at regular sit down restaurants. Never once seen it in a fast food or retail environment.

NewPerspective,

My rule of thumb: if they would refill my drink then this is a tipping place. Non-food places are judged case by case. The rest are laughed at and I do my best not to come back.

ChickenLadyLovesLife,

I’m a school bus driver and we get tipped (at Christmas and the end of the year). It’s fucking ridiculous. One of my coworkers last year even handed out tip envelopes to the kids - and got suspended for it, fortunately. Imagine being a parent and seeing that bullshit when your kid brings it home.

I don’t throw away the gift cards, of course, but it genuinely means a lot more to me when I get a hand-written card from one of my kids (especially if it’s not accompanying money).

grayman,

BBQ place I go to asks for tips at the checkout counter where you order food and pay. Then you get a number. They bring your food out and bus the table when you’re done. But that’s it. You get your own drink, condiments, cutlery.

I cannot for the life of me figure out why I would tip before any service is rendered and there’s no way to tip after.

dangblingus,

Ridiculous. I wouldn’t feel comfortable eating there. I get it, it’s supposed to guarantee a tip for your server, but that’s breaking the tipping social contract. I don’t know if your server is actually good at their job. Not only that, but it doesn’t sound like you ever receive service in this place.

grayman,

They aren’t servers… It’s just kitchen staff / cashiers that walk around every few minutes. At least they’re making more than $3/hr. But yeah… I don’t really call that service. The food got insanely expensive about a year ago too, so I stopped going there.

shadearg, (edited )
@shadearg@lemmy.world avatar

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Omega_Haxors,

In Canada they don’t have a “no tip” option any more, instead you have to click $ or % and put in 0. So what I do is I type in 0000 so they hear four inputs and think they’re getting at least 10$ even though i’m not tipping at all.

9488fcea02a9,

It should be illegal to not have a clear NO TIP button. I feel like we could easily legislate that if our politicians weren’t all spineless worms

Omega_Haxors,

We have a housing crisis and their solution is to build more rental properties. Yes, most of our ruling class are landlords, how could you tell??

Mr_Blott,

If some fucker tries to guilt me into tipping in Europe like this, they get “no tip”, then a 1 star review on Maps and TripAdvisor explaining exactly why they spoiled my experience

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CoggyMcFee,

In the US we obviously have had the problem of tipping for some time, but it was covid that sent everything completely off the rails. Once lockdown started, you starting tipping places even though you weren’t dining, and then even places where I wouldn’t have tipped before, if they asked for a tip I was usually giving a tip out of sympathy, and so on. And then lockdown ended but these things never went away. They came in under the radar at a time when nobody would protest the idea.

Artyom, (edited )

I only tip my waiters and my landlords.

Smh at all these down voters who don’t tip their hardworking landlords. Who do you think holds this world together?

HiddenLayer5, (edited )
@HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml avatar

Always remember to tip your landlords, the most exploited class in society.

In fact, what are you doing living in their house? What, just because you’re paying for it? Are you trying to forcibly evict them from their private property?! You housing-addicted loser. /s

Omega_Haxors, (edited )

Holy shit, downvoted it, they weren’t being ironic about tipping their landlord 😳

whogivesashit,

Do people not understand sarcasm

Sprokes,

That’s one of the things I hated when I visited Norway. I didn’t expect to see that in a European country.

Kornblumenratte,

US made software rules the world.

baseless_discourse, (edited )

I am sorry, I am not tipping 2$ for people to turn around and get my coffee from a tap.

Tipping waiters will be my final compromise with tipping culture. I never order delivery from app because I refuse to be forced to tip the delivery person after being charged delivery fee and serivce fee. I also do not tip countertop worker.

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