One of the reasons to play through multiple times is just having different Origin character party member compositions. One or more characters can chime in during dialogue, and changing the combination of characters can dramatically change the whole scene. I have all the murder hobo vibe characters, and it’s like the devs knew this combo would be common and I’m getting hella scenes I never saw in 2 previous playthroughs.
The only 3 at this point in the game that, if they used the alignment system, I’m sure would be one type of evil or another. I’ve had a couple surprise moments where all 3 join in a short discussion, playing off each other’s lines. I’ve had Lae’zel before, but I’ve never really kept Astarion around (unless I needed something with a DC of 30 lockpicked) and this is my first evil run, so Minthara isn’t a smouldering pile of ash this time.
I don’t love spiritual weapon, it’s too slow in both damage output and repositioning. It’s much better in BG3 though because you can abuse long rest if you want to, so the slot doesn’t matter, and because it is bonus and not concentration it practically feels free.
Laezel is fucking awesome. Give me brutal honesty over whatever shadowheart is doing. I've been lied to enough in my life. MC is a more chaotic self insert and the gith story is my priority.
Shadowheart doesn’t lie to you, she very directly witholds information because she doesn’t trust you, and as she gains trust and actually remembers stuff she opens up to you.
I liked her right off the bat. I don’t know if she is meant to be super likeable, but she is a gith… Having been a huge fan of Planescape Torment almost solely because of a big conversation between a githyanki and a member of a race that is the exact opposite of the gityanki that explains the ins and outs of the blood war and with an absolute torrent of lore and background to the race in question, Lae’zel is pretty fucking spot on for what I expected from such a character.
I kinda feel like people who have no history with Star Trek would have the same thoughts toward Klingons as they do Lae’zel if some Star Trek RPG came out and got a bunch of new potential fans to try it. So many people I’ve talked to about BG3 have never once played D&D and know nothing of Forgotten Realms. Such a player definitely wouldn’t understand why Lae’zel behaves the way she does, and you wouldn’t get much context unless you actually pushed through with her story.
As for mechanically playing with her in the party… She is just a fighter. Arguably the least interesting class. And with all the other good melee focused classes, I really only had her specifically for story cuz fighters are kinda lame. All they really do is swing weapons. 🤷🏻♂️
Yeah, I think the Klingon analogy is spot-on. Her writing is excellent, and completely consistent with how the githyanki have been portrayed in Planescape, BG2, and D&D in general. Also, I was surprised at how much the character resembles her voice actor. Curious to see the rest of the cast, now.
Neil Newbon has like 85% of Astarion’s face, it’s uncanny to look at him. They pretty clearly used the actors’ faces/mocap pretty heavily in the character designs.
I get that Fae’run has racial abilities built into its design, but ya’ll real in here trying to defend indoctrinated, active brainwashing and racism.
Lae’zel is your weak of ego, racist uncle; everything different offends her, and any evidence that she is wrong must be conspiracy. Even when faced with everything Vlaakith is doing wrong, you’re met with a series of mental gymnastics: “No, it must be the Doctor!” “Well it has to be THIS Creche, they’re lying about Vlaakith’s wishes!”
Even when you finally get through to her and she agrees to turn on Vlaakith, she spends the entire next act droning on about her new favorite religious figure/political leader. She’s functionally incapable of living for anyone other than a perceived god-king, and I’m shocked that doesn’t genuinely disgust more people.
When you frame it a certain way of course it sounds awful. Let me try the opposite.
Lae’zel has been indoctrinated since birth by a crazy religious and xenophobic culture. The second she’s told she’s being lied to she doesn’t believe anyone because people don’t change their mind about their entire belief system through one line of dialogue from a person she just met.
However after a few more hard facts being shown to her, such as said religious culture trying to kill her and being lied to by the head of said fanatics, she realizes all of her people are actually indoctrinated slaves and starts to fight for the future of her people by rallying around the one person who can actually do something to stop it all.
Not sure why her breaking away from the brainwashing and indoctrination and trying to help free her people after seeing the truth is a bad thing here? Also fun fact, if Orpheus turns into a mind flayer and dies at the end she goes to free her people anyway, it wasn’t just about him. She didn’t just become a zealot following a new person, she became dedicated to freeing her people. Orpheus has that capability so she wants to free him.
I’m playing a self serving character so I can understand selfish. What I can’t stand is how stupid he is.
PC: “Ok let’s save this guy so we can get a magical item to make our quest much much easier.”
Astarion: “UGH helping people is for SQUARES.”
If I didn’t need him for stealth my character would have killed him by now for his whining. Especially after he dissed my character by saying he has “standards”.
Trusting your audience to appreciate the depth of work that isn’t just flashy graphics, plus respecting players by not filling it with micro transactions.
That’s a good question… I knew it was in early access but I kept just hearing negative shit about it and it fell off my radar until it just exploded again because of the finalized release. The things I see it praised for it tells me all y’all youngsters need to get on GOG and get the old classics and see just how much better those games are to most shit that comes out now. The old farts like me want those, but to look like games these days. BG3 did that. And it’s amazing.
This game gives me the same vibes as Bioware games like Mass Effect and Dragon Age, I was craving for something like this, without the microtransactions and gambling bullshit infesting most modern games.
I’m not fond of DnD mechanics but it’s ok, it’s worth it nonetheless, BG3 is truly spectacular.
The BioWare vibes are exactly why I’m loving this game so much. Larian was never in my radar before, because I just can’t get into isometric games for some reason, but they definitely are now. Whatever they put out next, I’m probably going to get.
I purchased BG3 after I heard that the devs did not include micro transactions. I simply purchased it to support the devs, I had no intentions of playing it. But, I have a Steam Deck and decided to download it and just try it out. I am 30 hours into the game and I don’t have the physical or mental ability to put this game down. Please send help. Thank you Larian for taking video games back to their roots.
They had massive success with Divinity, the ground work already laid out. They bought rights to a big IP, kept to their Divinity formula and actually spent on marketing. Plus it happened to come at the right time when people needed the RPG itch scratched.
D&D is also as big as its ever been, especially with a latent audience of viewers who maybe don't play very often, and at a time when there aren't enough DMs for everyone who wants to play to find a table. Plus, Baldur's Gate is prime 30-year-nostalgia-cycle bait for millennial+ PC gamers.
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