What phone do you sugest for your grandparents?

I got a task to buy a smart phone for my grandparents, they are not techsavy but they know how to use basic functions. Iam looking for an andoid because it has language pack i need. I dont need it to have lots of functions, onley a good camera and a big screen. Bonus points if it can be flashed with some kind of simplefied version of android.

fastandcurious,

Depends massively on your budget, i would buy any 400ish dollar phone from any well known chinese brand (Redmi, Realme) and flash it with something like lineage OS, the hardware is good enough and will last a few years, if you have a higher budget, something like the asus zenfone is also good and you probably won’t need to modify the software (unless you want to)

Stay away from samsung imo, they are harder to mod and their budget phones are far from the best, they may look decent on paper but the software and speed are very lackluster

KpntAutismus,

yup, had a galaxy watch once. never again. that company is dead to me.

Life_inst_bad,

If you dont mind chiniese companys try the Xiaomi mi max 4: pretty big screen 7,2", android, good enough camera and it’s quite cheap.

plactagonic,

My grandpa wanted something like this - calling, simple web browsing… I handed him my old Pixel 2 XL and he is happy with it.

I just set up F-droid and aurora store, he didnt have G account so it was the easy and fast way to set it up.

Extrasvhx9he, (edited )

You can basically make a dumb smartphone with grapheneos so a pixel would be good for them. If you dont need a dumb phone set it up with the playstore and whatever apps they use and boom good to go

Edit: I would also setup accessibility features. Forgot to mention regardless of os add some kind of network firewall or DNS solution to block malicious/phishing domains. The elderly are often victims of scams

Kolanaki,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

For mine?

A Ouija board.

CriticalMiss,

Try the knock-off Luigi board.

Rhynoplaz,

Can Luigi board make me pregernt?

Cheradenine,

Are you asking how babby is formed?

registrert,
@registrert@lemmy.sambands.net avatar

I’m already gregnent so I know how it works.

Assman,
@Assman@sh.itjust.works avatar

It’s a me, your dead grandpa

rbn,

From my perspective you don’t necessarily need a simplified Android but only a simplified launcher. There are plenty of senior friendly launchers in the play store.

Octopus1348,
@Octopus1348@lemy.lol avatar

And you should also increase the interface and font size.

Fake4000,

If its an iPhone I would go with an iPhone plus for the screen size.

If its android, I would go with a Samsung A device. They’re usually big in size, affordable, comes with a lot of accessibility features, good battery, and relatively easy to find accessories and spare parts.

Sheeple,
@Sheeple@lemmy.world avatar

Some older apple devices. I usually despise apple devices but their strong points usually are big screen + good camera while also being piss easy to use for non techsavvy people.

Tautvydaxx,

I would buy an iphone and jailbreak, remove settings apps, useless apps and make it minimalistic, but it doesnt have language pack i need so i cant use it

aida,

Pixel 7 Pro with grapheneos and foss apps

MagneticFusion,

probably the worst thing for elderly considering how many very minor for us but very difficult for older folks issues you will come across

Extrasvhx9he,

The foss apps I dont agree with but a stock grapheneos setup is as basic as it gets so even a non tech person can use it. OP can even set it up for them to auto update whatever apps they use through the playstore so the grandparents dont really have to do anything

otter,
@otter@lemmy.ca avatar

The problem is that other people will be unfamiliar with it. Unless OP can be the support person all the time, the grandparents may want to get help from someone else.

Keeping things stock is helpful for that, and I feel like Google Pixel is already simple enough. Just disable things like assistant during setup or in settings.

Extrasvhx9he, (edited )

I agree to disagree it’s really not that different from vanilla especially if he does go the playstore route, so a person familiar with android can naviagate grapheneos. The only problem would be if they break their device and the thumbprint scanner would have to be recalibrated. Personally I would just keep it as the stock grapheneos setup with accessibility features turned to max. That way its a dumb smartphone

Edit: forgot to mention regardless of os add some kind of network firewall or DNS solution to block malicious/phishing domains. The elderly are often victims of scams

otter,
@otter@lemmy.ca avatar

That’s a great point, uBlock Origin helps a lot with scams on desktop.

I agree to disagree

I should also point out that I haven’t tried GrapheneOS and can’t judge what the differences might be, so I’ll go with your experience on this :)

MagneticFusion,

it is basic but you rum into compatibility issues every once in a while which they will not be able to figure out. And also, if you don’t agree with the Foss apps, it means you will just install the regular familiar google apps, which if you do that, does not make much of a difference if you are on GOS or stock Android

aida,

it does a difference to be on GOS. Google apps are sandboxed and are safer than in vanilla android, and grapheneos has features to mitigate exploits and again… as easy as a toggle buttons.

Extrasvhx9he,

I see where you are coming from but I disagree. Using grapheneos will allow much more security and control over the device so OP can fine tune their grandparent’s device to their liking. As for not agreeing with the foss apps I really mean in this situation specifically. Foss apps often run into problems with stability (look at newpipe due to youtube) and ease of use (look at collabora) which will frustrate an older person and with grapheneos at least OP can further lockdown the proprietary apps that their grandparents would use if they do so in the first place. However, since OP stated they just want a phone that’s simple that’s why I would go with the stock grapheneos setup without adding new applications. As for compatiability, unless they are driving or banking which I doubt since they just know tha basics of a smartphone, I doubt this will be a problem since the majority of mainstream apps work. Grapheneos is meant for freedom and securiry over your device not just privacy

aida, (edited )

i run my Pixel + GrapheneOS as daily and it’s very simple to set up, it does not even take 30 minutes to install the OS if you read the instructions from the official webpage. Does not have any bloat or unnecesary apps at all, no telemetry or tracking. No distractions of the main point of a phone. You can install normal apps from the Aurora Store and FOSS (clean, simple and useful) apps from F-Droid. The battery charge lasts all day and the phone it’s fast and secure.

MagneticFusion,

the same aurora store that wouldnt work for half the times and you would have to go to the google play website for an application and click on “open in app” on ur browser?

doesn’t seem very intuitive for an 80 year old

aida, (edited )

woah! you really look like the half empty glass type of person. That’s why their grandson/daugther it’s going to set it up for them. I’ve been using AuroraStore for a long time and I never had to do any of that. Still, once you have installed the apps you need, correctly, the only concurrent task is to apply updates and I never had any problems with that either.

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