The transphobia stops now

This community is housed on an instance run by two trans women, focused on the needs of the queer and gender diverse community.

We allowed 196 here because we were promised the community is queer and trans inclusive.

If you’re here it’s because you’re aggressively supportive of trans folk. Not middle of the ground, not “just asking questions”.

If your response to that is, “yes, but…” then this isn’t the instance for you, and by extension, this isn’t the community for you.

tl;dr - Unambiguous support and inclusion, or fuck off somewhere else.

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Edit - I changed the phrase "aggressive support to “unambiguous support”, as there was some confusion over the intent behind my previous phrasing.

valdemar,

Lol okay

QualisArtifexPereo,

Joining most of the people here in saying, “Huh, what community?” I’m not against trans people, and I despise bigots, but I’m not a part of your community either.

To be honest I don’t care to be part of any federated community that defines itself by what it won’t tolerate, grow up and use the block feature.

simplify,

I see it as an effort to establish a mission statement and that they are only interested in conversations that further that mission. I don’t see a problem and I also agree with you that there is no community for you there, but I don’t see how maturity plays a part.

Milk_SDF_Possum,
@Milk_SDF_Possum@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Based and lainpilled.

croix,

Fucking THIS.

thereticent,

I’m not part of that community either. I’m truly amazed at the number of indignant comments like yours, which demonstrate that you took the post as addressed to you. It obviously wasn’t. It was explicitly addressed to posters on 196. I’d recommend being less self-centered, but if you disagree, I’m sure that community would be happy to see you go.

Doug,

grow up and use the block feature.

I’m really sick of this talking point. If history hasn’t demonstrated to you that ignoring a problem doesn’t resolve the problem then you take ought to go back and read some more.

If you can’t stand to be bothered by others trying to carve out consideration for your fellow humans then I’m glad this may be our only interaction.

hughperman,

Community is the term for a “sub” on Lemmy.

Nyla_Smokeyface,

It’s comforting to know that this community is intolerant of transphobia

Milk_SDF_Possum,
@Milk_SDF_Possum@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

And intolerant of anyone who doesn’t agree with all they say.

BautAufWasEuchAufbaut,
@BautAufWasEuchAufbaut@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

“They”
mask off moment

agent_flounder,
@agent_flounder@lemmy.one avatar

“agree”… bruh. This doesn’t concern you. Just let them be and keep it shut ffs. You don’t have to tell them how you don’t “agree” with them. What’s not to agree with anyway? You going to disagree with ADHD when you don’t have it and don’t know shit about it? Maybe walk a mile in someone’s shoes before you decide you’re the arbiter of their experiences. Or better maybe realize there are other perspectives and experiences and the world is better when you listen and learn and stow it?

girltwink,

Lemmy is in a weird state. I appreciate not seeing casual homophobia/transphobia in mainstream places like 196, but they’re also not exactly inclusive of actual out-and-grown-up queer people, and there aren’t enough people here yet for actual safe places to exist. I posted a comment self-referentially calling myself (a trans woman ) a “f-----” or something, and it got downvoted and deleted. This was a problem on reddit, where transphobes would report trans people for using self-referential slurs, and tone deaf reddit admins would ban their accounts. Now it seems like we’re going to do it again here.

d16n,

it’s still early, have hope!

Peruvia,
@Peruvia@lemmy.ml avatar

Trans rights are human rights. Trans people’s existence doesn’t get to be dictated on other’s whims, or have their validity be aproved by other’s checklists. Trans people get to live and be respected. Dismissing someone’s right to live that literally is just trying to exist peacfully just because you don’t feel like treating them as a human being says everything. I want to have trans people feel safe in their environments,whichever that is (online or irl), and we can’t achieve that unless we’re vocal, straightfoward and fierce in our activism for trans rights. Because trans rights are human rights. Thank you for being here and being a part of this community.

cupcakezealot,
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Ngl I joined this community because I thought it was a trans meme sub/community/whatever based on the colours in the logo :3

Holzkohlen,
@Holzkohlen@feddit.de avatar

Damn straight. Us queers need to stand together and there can be no god damn LGBTQ+ without the flippin T.

Doug,

Us queers need to stand together

I’m not trying to co-opt anything. Far from. I just want to remind everyone that you don’t need to know your place in the rainbow to want to see its beauty.

Darthjaffacake,

I’ll be honest I think alienating people feeling in the middle is a bad idea, making an echo chainber is ehat those other websites are for, and people on the middle ground are the ones whose beliefs matter the most as they they are the only ones that will change things.

BarrelAgedBoredom,

There shouldnt be any middle ground on the statement “trans rights are human rights”. If you think there’s room for compromise on the oppression of marginalized groups then you’re either a lost cause or willfully ignorant of the world around you. People that are in a safe space, specifically dedicated to them and people like them, have no obligation to educate or entertain disingenuous “discourse” about whether or not they should be allowed to exist.

Darthjaffacake,

That’s not what I’m talking about and yeah there’s no middle ground on the fact trans people should have human rights. I’m not sure how to put this into words but pretty much if you live in a place where you can’t see trans people around you (as in trans people not being allowed to be free and safe in public) it’s hard for people to just get a grasp on “this person exists and is trans and is a person” thats the big milestone. Getting people recognised as people. A while before i dated her i didn’t understand how to feel comfortable with the idea (much of it was through fun memes supporting trans stuff in non-toxic ways). But my point is that showing that trans people exist and are normal is really important for the world right now, we need the people in the middle ground to know that your rights are being violated and something needs to be done because the middle does change that vote the most.

lupuspernox,

Yeah I don’t know any trans people irl so everything I know about them is from 196. I was in no way anti-trans before I started lurking. I would have considered myself the “middle ground” because of my unfamiliarity with it, not because I wasn’t sure if they should or should not have rights. I really think this whole post needs to be rephrased because it would have turned me away back then.

regular_human,
@regular_human@lemmy.world avatar

lmao “middle ground” ugh

thelsim,
@thelsim@sh.itjust.works avatar

You have my full support.
As a… whatever the hell I am… I support everyone to be who they want to be. No exceptions.

sexy_peach,
@sexy_peach@feddit.de avatar

Also people remember to report assholes! Don’t interact, report them. Mods will handle it.

Coach,

You have my support one million percent. No one has a right to threaten or intimidate anybody just for existing; we won’t allow it.

RavenFellBlade,
@RavenFellBlade@lemmy.world avatar

Trans rights are women’s rights.

Trans rights are men’s rights.

Trans rights are human rights.

If you believe otherwise, you’re doing nothing less than questioning the basic humanity of Trans people. And you can fuck right off.

Serpardum,

I’m here because this showed up in all.

I don’t “aggressively support” squat. I do stand up for life, liberty,and the pursuit of happiness. Someone being trans does not affect anyone’s life, liberty, or pursuit of happiness until they get aggressive.

probably,

What does that even mean?

until they get aggressive

This like not being racist, but they shouldn’t be so loud with those blm protests?

Not homophobic, but they shouldn’t have to make everything gay in the summer?

Maybe in wrong (I hope I am), but that is what your comment sounds like.

Serpardum,

I do not support the BLM protests as they had them because they were violent, yet I support black rights. I understand also Martin Luther King Jrs statement not to have violent protests because it makes the protesters out to be the bad guys.

I was at the Dakota Access Pipeline (DAPL) protests in standing rock protesting against the encroachment of native Americans rights. As and I told them also, "it is not good if you break the law, it makes it look like you are the bad guys. Rather stress how much THEY are breaking the law.

I do not support violent protests for the most part, unless life is at stake.

Sabo_Tabby,

The law got us in the messes. Ya gotta break it. Property destruction and defense from police violence is not violence.

agent_flounder,
@agent_flounder@lemmy.one avatar

You think lives aren’t at stake in those instances? Hmm ok.

Sekoia,

Why are you showing up in a comment section without having most of the context on a post that doesn’t concern you or your communities? Legit asking, what is the point of this comment?

Serpardum,

I did not join this community nor this server, it was thrust upon me.

I support trans rights, don’t get me wrong.

I am just offended by a post thrust upon me and then they claim “this isn’t the community for you”. I DIDN’T JOIN THE DAMN COMMUNITY IN THR FIRST PLACE.

thereticent,

This is the weirdest complaint. The post showed up in your popular/active feed because it got popular/active. It wasn’t targeted to you, and the poster was not addressing you. The post was clearly addressed to users who post on /c/196.

Being annoyed at how the service works is not a good reason to be combative with the poster, and it certainly isn’t a good reason to share your opinions about trans folk being a problem when they get aggressive. Not adding up.

pizzatime,

bruh then just shut the fuck up and keep scrolling

Sekoia,

You know you can block a community right? And if it’s not for you, you can just… not participate, too. It was “thrust upon you” in the same way that every other community in c/all is thrust upon you. You make the active choice of browsing non-curated content, then complain that it doesn’t consider you?

Seriously, you’re complaining about literally nothing. If you don’t feel like this is for you, block it.

dutchkimble,

Yeah, seeing this in all and this person is totally right don’t give em shit

BarrelAgedBoredom,

You can hide posts and block coummunities without leaving pointless contrarian garbage on them

Catasaur,
@Catasaur@lemmy.catasaur.xyz avatar

I loved the original 196 and how supportive it was for LGBTQ+ people. Also because it was hilarious. Keep rockin

StellarExtract,

Thank you! I followed 196 over here from Reddit when it moved and I appreciate you reaffirming its principles. I think the move to Lemmy paradoxically gave 196 more visibility to people who don’t necessarily agree with those principles because its posts wind up so prominent on All, especially in smaller instances. It’s kind of hilarious how many posts I’ve seen asking why people on Lemmy say “rule” all the time 😂

Edit: in closing, fuck transphobes

tonnert,

Go go go. I’m so sick and tired of the hatred, the ignorance and frankly speaking, the stupidness.

I’m from a culture that is not very forgiving and tolerant, even though on the tin it says we are.

And it took me years to see and understand it. Now that I’ve conquered that ignorance, hell no we are not going to regress!!

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