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Grimy,

AI generated content isn’t stealing. That being said, Facebook is literally only reposts, there is practically zero original content. The AI generated stuff is amongst the few things that isn’t technically stolen.

Grimy,

I guess it might depend on your app. Jerboa has a bookmark that saves the post. It doesn’t notify but it’s easy to find it again.

Grimy,

What are we going to do to counter it, bomb their facilities? We were convenient but they don’t need us. We can’t stall their progress without starting a war.

Grimy,

My point is there isn’t much between them. They already have one of the biggest chip making industries and they already bought the stuff to move forward.

What can we do?

Grimy,

I’m on team Ukraine in all this but I’ve also spent a full year watching drones drop grenades on soldiers that are sometimes clearly disabled and out of the fight.

It’s not the same but similar enough that this seems a bit hypocritical.

Grimy,

Belle Delphine was a pioneer with her bath water. Can she do it again?

Grimy,

The kid gets to use it too, but only if he’s bullied enough

Grimy,

Foundation is currently being adapted. They have changed quite a bit and it’s a bit clumsy at times but Trantor, Cleon and Demerzel are very well done.

They wrapped up season 2 a few months ago.

Grimy,

This is pure oil company propaganda. I hate cars with a passion and want a car free society. We will get there but it will take time. But We need to get rid of gas NOW.

Anyone who spews this kind of filth is literally the enemy.

Grimy,

I do know how much we use petrochemicals. Gasoline is not a direct synonym for petrochemicals, it’s definition is fuel for combustion engines. None of the products you mentioned are made out of gasoline.

Grimy,

EVs are the only solution to getting ourselves out of this mess. We can’t ban all cars in the next few years like we can with all gasoline cars. Building proper public transport takes time, especially when it’s been sabotaged to such a point. We need to transit to a carless society through ev or it’s literally over.

Propaganda is a slimy business and their current strat is bash EVs and bring up nihilism. Regardless of your intentions, you are being their mouthpiece by posting this.

Grimy,

That’s all true, maybe I’m overthinking it. I like his other work, the punch line just seemed prominently anti ev on this one and I think I’m developing a hair trigger for it. Most are a bit more reticent in my community and I’ve seen all kinds of arguments against EVs, some being they are just as bad for the environment so why bother.

I do agree it might lead to complacency, especially since most countries seem quite unwilling to tackle any kind of issues related to vehicles.

Grimy,

That’s when we should have started bombing

Grimy,

What are they going to do next, stop me from leaving the country if I’m accused of a criminal act and potentially a flight risk? The nerve! A bunch of old dudes who didn’t wash and owned slaves told me I could go anywhere I wanted armed and goddamn it I will

Grimy,

Having to pay for training data would rapidly sky rocket costs making it impossible for open source projects or even smaller for profit companies to survive. We are rapidly going to find ourselves in an AI driven economy and this would cement Google and Microsoft owning it.

Not to mention that not a dime would go to individuals. Companies like Reddit, Getty, Adobe and Penguin have all the data, we already gave it to them a long time ago.

They write strongly worded letters so we play right into their hands but the big AI companies are drooling at the thought of it. It would fuck us hard.

Grimy,

Not to mention one everyday would be 365 out of 400 every year. Clearly, ~90% of the population isn’t getting shot every year.

Grimy,

Yes. Still, 90% of the population isn’t getting shot every year and a couple of people aren’t going to make up for it with multiple gunshot wounds.

That being said, whatever the real percentage is, it’s still too high

Grimy,

This tech is going to be sooo good for the indie scene. Every single game and every character is going to have quality voice work from now on

Grimy,

I personally use runpod. It doesn’t cost much even for the high end level stuff. Tbh the openai API is easier though and gives mostly better results.

Grimy,

Max token windows are 4k for llama 2 tho there’s some fine tunes that push the context up further. Speed is limited by your budget mostly, you can stack GPUs and there are most models available (including the really expensive ones)

I’m just letting you know, If you want something easy, just use ChatGtp. I don’t find them overly expensive for what it is.

Grimy,

It would be rough if he’s already out of state and planning his next party

Grimy,

Or you know, we could only give guns to people that really really need them instead of making a hobby out of it

Grimy,

Is every hobbyist clay shooter a good person? Is their hobby worth the lives of innocent people? Not to mention how easy it is to snap and turn bad. It sucks for the good hobbyists but idc if it means less dead children, they can shoot clay with bbs.

Background checks simply don’t work well enough to catch everyone. Mental health issues are hard to spot, it’s not like you can just do a blood test.

Honestly, there are soooo many ways to entertain ourselves in our society, people that center their whole lives around guns need to grow the fuck up imo. Fuck the hobby.

Grimy,

If you regulate AI, you kill any open source or small time endeavors and turn the whole thing into a shit show. You need vast amounts of data to train models and only a few companies either have it or can afford what they are missing.

Our whole economy is going to be AI driven soon, google and Microsoft would literally own us.

I also think Reddit just aggregated that content. Us, the consumer, don’t deserve to get shafted and see AI costs explode just so spez can make a fat pay day off the content we created.

Grimy,

You mentioned regulating right after scraping so I thought it pertained to that.

Also when I say expensive, I mean prohibitively so in a way that creates a soft monopoly. And when you couple that with the very real possibility that AI replaces most desk work in the coming decades, its bleak.

That being said, I totally agree deepfakes and all that need to be regulated but only on the platforms distributing it imo. Most seem to want to regulate how the technology itself works, gimping it and forcing filters on the user. All of which can really only be done by stopping users from running it locally.

I think anything other than the lightest touch would be disastrous for both us and the product.

I’m curious where you would start. I have some thoughts but mainly only a strict opt out policy for individuals.

Nightshade - A new data poisoning tool lets artists fight back against generative AI (lemmy.world)

The tool, called Nightshade, messes up training data in ways that could cause serious damage to image-generating AI models. Is intended as a way to fight back against AI companies that use artists’ work to train their models without the creator’s permission....

Grimy,

The equivalent of Luddites breaking machinery. You can’t stop technology. The artists would be better served learning how to use these new tools than throwing a tantrum. I’m getting some heavy “Photoshop isn’t real art” vibes and it’s pathetic. Whatever lets them cope I guess.

Grimy,

That’s a wall of text but I will talk about you Elon Musk, gates, etc comment. The main ones pushing for regulations are specifically these groups.

If it becomes law that you can’t use scrapped material for AI, or all the material is poisoned, it absolutely kills any open source or small endeavor. Openai and company will happily pay for these databases, it means they keep their moat and are easily able to push subscribing services down our throats. The artists still wont get a dime since the dataset will come from instagram, Getty, adobe etc but the consumers will get heavily fucked.

Grimy,

I don’t think you slow something by dumping 10 billion on it imo

Grimy,

It’s a joke, and a good one

Grimy,

It’s literally for money. He makes a living from the amount of views it gets.

Grimy, (edited )

I know everyone loves when YouTube pranksters get whats coming but shooting someone over a mild annoyance is never a good thing. This is why america seems fucking nuts to anyone that doesn’t live there.

Grimy,

He was in a public food court at a mall during lunch

Grimy, (edited )

It’s not enough to shoot someone in any civilised country.

It’s important to realize that the confrontation lasted 30 seconds. That’s the amount of time he waited before almost killing someone.

He wasn’t being chased in a dark alley or stalked for half a hour, someone played loud noises in his face and it took a total of 30 seconds for him to decide to shoot someone over it. Literally insane.

Grimy,

Yes. Your country has a shit reputation because of the gun cult, the shootings, the constant war mongering, the blatant racism and homophobia, and the Christian lobby that fuels all of the above.

Being the world’s economic leader doesn’t mean your internal policies can’t be shit, grow up.

When Trump was visiting foreign countries, they literally flew giant ballons mocking him lmao.

Grimy,

Clearly not. He’s saying that other authors have done the same as the software does. The software creators implemented the same principle into their llm. You are being daft on purpose.

Grimy,

I’m pretty sure that plugin was disabled. Also, from using Bing, it just reads like the first two links so it really wasn’t that good.

Grimy,

I want to make my own AI generated movies and I’m very interested in watching other people’s work when it starts coming out. Not everyone needs to be spoon fed their entertainment by billion dollar companies.

Grimy,

Horse to track position 5 with a speed of 65mph.

Check

Grimy,

Might as well go back to the fields the with all the other Luddites then.

We live in a capitalist society, every bit of progress benefits the rich first. It’s always been like that, it has nothing to do with the AI part.

Grimy,

I honestly think this a non-issue with the new llms coming out. Gpt 4 definitely understands idioms.

Hardest part with be getting the tone down and adding proper emotion to it.

Grimy,

Okay, the problem is there are only about three companies with either enough data or enough money to buy it. Any open source or small time AI model is completely dead in the water. Since our economy is quickly moving towards being AI driven, it would basically guarantee our economy is completely owned by a handful of companies like Getty Images.

Any artist with less weight than GRR and Taylor Swift is still screwed, they might get a peanut or two at most.

I’d rather get an explosion of culture, even if it mean GRR doesn’t get a last fat paycheck and Hollywood loses control of its monopoly.

Grimy,

There’s so much more at stake, it’s not remotely the same as pirating. AI is poised to take over any kind of job that requires only a computer and a telephone. I’d rather have robust open source options that a handful of companies exerting a subscription tax on half the economy.

Any overt legislation will only hurt us the consumer while 99.9% of the actual artists and contributers won’t see any benefit whatsoever.

Short of aggressively nationalizing any kind of AI endeavour, making it as free and accessible as possible is the best option imo.

Grimy,

There will be outrage, they will go back on their cloud gaming decision but not on the disk drive. Orchestrated to screw over their users while making their fans think they are being listened to.

Would you be buried alive for 48hr for a million dollars?

You are buried in a coffin 6ft deep, with no light or cell phone. There is only a small tube connected to the coffin from outside that allows you to breathe (edit: you can breathe with no difficulty). After 48 hours, you are dug up and given 1 million dollars. Do you do it?...

Grimy,

Id fuck with it for a million dollars

Grimy,

“The Nazis are killing millions of people. Lets kill some more!”

Grimy,

It doesn’t have to be an extreme like that. It would send a strong message If every gas station had to replace their LCD screens every week, or the windows of their headquarters.

But I guess non-action and bootlicking while we wait for our thoroughly bribed politicians to do nothing is better.

Grimy,

Anything other than writing strongly worded emails is going to cause some form of economic damage, even just peaceful protesting with signs.

It’s about being heard and forcing the governments to ignore the billions in oil bribes they have already received. You can’t do that by sitting at home and making angry faces.

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