Google search is over

Via @rodhilton

Right now if you search for “country in Africa that starts with the letter K”:

  • DuckDuckGo will link to an alphabetical list of countries in Africa which includes Kenya.
  • Google, as the first hit, links to a ChatGPT transcript where it claims that there are none, and summarizes to say the same.

This is because ChatGPT at some point ingested this popular joke:

“There are no countries in Africa that start with K.” “What about Kenya?” “Kenya suck deez nuts?”

Google Search is over.

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Resol,
@Resol@lemmy.world avatar

Wow, I didn’t know AI was dumb (for now).

phoenixz,

I left google search some 5 years ago. About twice a year I find myself trying it and being amazed by how crap it is.

DDG FTW!

itsmaxyd,

Ddg is powered by bing isn’t it?

Geth,

Yeah, it’s basically bing with no Microsoft tracking. What the hell kind of timeline is this where bing is the best search engine?

Fungah,

Bing is absolute trash too.

resin85,

The result if you unfortunately have Google’s “Bard AI” search lab turned on. At least it has a disclaimer that the results may be garbage.

https://lemmy.ca/pictrs/image/66dca2a4-7d40-425c-9074-02afc5bc5e9a.jpeg

alvanrahimli,

Just checked on Kagi. It doesn’t provide quick answer to this query, but that weird EmergentMind website is #1 on results. This is prolly because Kagi is taking some of the results from Google index, but good thing is, I can just block this website using lenses.

menemen,
marche_ck,
ultratiem,
@ultratiem@lemmy.ca avatar

Yeah they fixed it. This is what it looked like for me when the story dropped: https://lemmy.ca/pictrs/image/3bbb4c03-5324-4190-88d4-1263ad43d9af.png

circuitfarmer,
@circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Surprised your first ten results weren’t ads

lemmyvore,

Eh don’t worry, after WEI DRM has been in use for a while I’m willing to bet Google will show a full page interstitial ad with every search.

RobinRoswell,

Sponsored: Kenya suck deez nuts?

Misconduct,

My favorite part is when I search a company and it puts all their competitors at the top

Vlhacs,

Chatgpt creating incorrect feedback loops like this is one of my main concerns about AI being used so prevalently. This and original thoughts disappearing because every new content in the web is generated by AI and not by a human.

KevonLooney,

I thought about this recently. It’s more likely that people will subscribe to sites that aren’t full of AI garbage.

schroedingershat,

Tool built by narcissist gaslighters is good for bullshit but nothing else? Colour me shocked.

funkless_eck,

to be fair the latter thing would actually increase the value of original thought

DanTilDawn,

Original thoughts aren’t exactly a mainstay of people either despite how often that gets romanticized in AI criticisms

crag, (edited )
Blackmist,
sfgifz,

What’s in a name?

-Bard of Avon

gt24, (edited )
jwn,
GreenMario,

I’ve tried to upload a similar image so I’ll just add a +1 using Firefox, Android Google.

UnknownQuantity,

I typed in “what countries in Africa start with k” and got Kenya. When I tried your search term I got your result also. Weird.

Silentiea,

It kinda seems like that’s a joke that got popular, and if you quote the joke it finds the joke but if you ask a similar question it gives the real answer

Did it go viral or something and that’s why google is finding it?

UnknownQuantity,

Yeah, kinda like reddit used to do sometimes. From over a decade ago I remember “santorum”.

Petter1,

Lol 😂 what a good laugh

prey169,

Brave has a similar answer

b0gl,

Brave is chrome

Doorbell0008,

I’m not sure if you’re joking, but in case you’re not:

Brave is not a search engine. Brave is a browser. You use browsers to interact with things like search engines.

The top three search engines that I can think of right now are Google, Bing, and Duck Duck Go.

SplashingCobalt,

Brave search exists

prey169,

Brave has it’s own search engine and uses it’s own indexes. Unlike duck duck go which uses bing

Jarmer,
  • two search engines. ddg is white label bing.

I use and love ddg, so I hope that doesn’t change your opinion of it, just good to know.

phar,

You should have duck duck goed that before posting

Merulox, (edited )
@Merulox@lemmy.world avatar

That realization must have been embarrassing haha. It’s okay, friend, we can’t be expected to be caught up with everything going on in tech.

Anafabula,
@Anafabula@discuss.tchncs.de avatar
Blackmist,

AI generated content is pure search result pollution.

What Google should be doing rather than pushing Bard is detecting AI nonsense and purging it from their search database.

diffuselight,

You cannot detect AI generated content. Not with any real world accuracy and it will only get worse.

Also, because google relies on growth for everything from compensation structure to business model, they are in a bind - ads is not growing anymore, it’s done.

And while they managed to create an illusion of growth this earnings round by juicing subscription fees 20% and increasing ad load everywhere, it’s not a sustainable tactic. We are already seeing a tech sell off as people are getting less and less secure.

So they rely on AI narrative to keep investors invested Google needs AI to work or the investors will move it to a place that may offer higher returns than a squeezed out ads model.

Worse even they are being attacked by AI - on the quality front (junk content) and in the marketplace (openAI), they don’t have a choice but to take a pro AI stance.

assassin_aragorn,

AI is its own worst enemy. If you can’t identify AI output, that means AIs are going to train on AI generated content, which really hurts the model.

Its literally in everyone’s best interest, including AI itself, to start leaving identification of some kind inherent to all output.

diffuselight,

Those studies are flawed. by definition when you can no longer tell the difference the difference on training is nil.

pedalmore,

It’s more like successive generations of inbreeding. Unless you have perfect AI content, perfect meaning exactly mirroring the diversity of human content, the drivel will amplify over time.

diffuselight,

Given chinchilla law, nobody in their right mind trains models via shotgun ingesting all data anymore. Gains are made with quality of data at this point, less than volume.

artic,

i use ddg and kagi for search

wieli99,

Someone recommended Kagi here, and tho it isn’t free, it’s the only engine I’ve found so far that can legitimately consistently outperform google

ultratiem,
@ultratiem@lemmy.ca avatar

I’ve been using DDG for ages now and tested it against Google a handful of times over that course.

They were nearly identical in search returns. Bing, Yahoo, etc have all caught up to where search just isn’t a thing anymore. Not like how it used to be when Google first dropped and was light years ahead.

And not for nothing but Google has been caught exploiting their search results so not sure if I’d be looking to them as the shining beacon they once were.

ryannathans,

Ddg is just a privacy wrapper for bing now

ultratiem,
@ultratiem@lemmy.ca avatar

And Yahoo. Maybe more since I haven’t checked since like 2015. But yes, DDG is not technically a search engine they just anonymize the query before sending it.

ChickenLadyLovesLife,

Kagi starts with a “K” sound but is actually spelled with a “K” sound.

histy,

I’ve been using DDG for some time now precisely because google searches only show me advertisements, it’s likely that Bing is better.

Tavarin,
@Tavarin@lemmy.ca avatar

Bing has been better for a while now.

TheSaneWriter,
@TheSaneWriter@lemmy.thesanewriter.com avatar

I use Bing more frequently than Google and at this point it is better. Google’s baseline algorithm is better than Bing’s but Google targets its search results as well as its ads, which fucks up the results. I know Bing has targeted ads but it either doesn’t target its search results or does so more subtly, making more user-friendly at this point.

jampacked,

How popular cuz I’ve never heard of it.

TheSaneWriter,
@TheSaneWriter@lemmy.thesanewriter.com avatar

I’ve never heard it before, but it sounds about standard for a deez nuts joke so I wouldn’t be surprised if it was popular in some subreddit Bard was trained on.

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