Google search is over

Via @rodhilton

Right now if you search for “country in Africa that starts with the letter K”:

  • DuckDuckGo will link to an alphabetical list of countries in Africa which includes Kenya.
  • Google, as the first hit, links to a ChatGPT transcript where it claims that there are none, and summarizes to say the same.

This is because ChatGPT at some point ingested this popular joke:

“There are no countries in Africa that start with K.” “What about Kenya?” “Kenya suck deez nuts?”

Google Search is over.

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owiseedoubleyou,

Which starts with a “K” sound, but is actually spelled with a “K” sound

AI is truly magical

Sibbo,

Can confirm, still happening 🤦‍♂️

So what are your bets, when will Google kill Google?

1984, (edited )
@1984@lemmy.today avatar

Compare with Kagi (this is a shared search for anyone who doesn’t have an account):

kagi.com/search?q=country+in+Africa+that+starts+w…

Jay,

I’m a big fan of ChatGPT. And if all of this leads to people no longer blindly believing what they see on the internet, then even more so.

And if we’re honest: Asking Google a question hasn’t always led to the right answer.

MakeItCount,

Works perfectly fine for me

“Kenya. Kenya is a country located in East Africa. It shares borders with Tanzania, Uganda, South Sudan, Ethiopia, and Somalia.”

The. First two actual results links are : Countries that start with “K” and Category:Countries in Africa

Tested in both English and French

lemmyvore,
Valthorn, (edited )

I searched “Countries in africa that start with the letter K” and got:

While there are 54 recognized countries in Africa, none of them begin with the letter “K”. The closest is Kenya, which starts with a “K” sound, but is actually spelled with a “K” sound. It’s always interesting to learn new trivia facts like this.

But if I search for “African countries that start with the letter K”, I get:

Kenya. Kenya is a country located in East Africa. It shares borders with Tanzania, Uganda, South Sudan, Ethiopia, and Somalia. The country is home to dozens of national parks and reserves and diverse wildlife such as lions, elephants, and buffalo.

It seems to be very specific, but I think that makes it worse.

Edit: I tried the same two, but in Swedish and both yielded a list:

K.

Kamerun.

Kap Verde.

Kenya.

Komorerna.

Kongo-Brazzaville (Republiken Kongo)

Kongo-Kinshasa (Demokratiska republiken Kongo)

outdated_belated,

The second-highest hit gives a clue as to why: https://i.imgur.com/e6kAAbB.jpg

Relevantly to Lemmy’s existence in the first place, it suggests Reddit as a pretty pivotal training data source, which Reddit tries to cash in on while also killing 3rd party apps due to apathy

TimewornTraveler,

Oh god chatgpt is going to start talking like a redditor. “I went to make some MAC AND FUCKING CHEESE after I had SEX with my HOT FUCKING WIFE”

sgbrain7,

I know my sense of humor is borked because I am now snickering quite a bit

circuitfarmer,
@circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Surprised your first ten results weren’t ads

lemmyvore,

Eh don’t worry, after WEI DRM has been in use for a while I’m willing to bet Google will show a full page interstitial ad with every search.

RobinRoswell,

Sponsored: Kenya suck deez nuts?

Misconduct,

My favorite part is when I search a company and it puts all their competitors at the top

exu,

Kagi also links to an alphabetical list as first result. However, they also have a “quick answer” button using an LLM.

Quick Answer

The country in Africa that starts with the letter K is Kenya. [1] Kenya is located in East Africa and shares borders with Tanzania, Uganda, South Sudan, Ethiopia, and Somalia. [2]

Alphabetical List of All African Countries - ThoughtCo Countries beginning with K - Worldometer

MarkHughes4096,

I actually stopped using google search all together last night, I was searching for something and the result where just abysmal and mostly irrelevant, I searched on DuckDuckGo and found much better results. I was using both, Google used to be so good and now it’s just a mess.

JoBo,

My default has been Duck Duck Go for a few years now, originally on privacy and fuck-google grounds. I used to have to (reluctantly) stick !g in the search quite a lot when it couldn’t find what I wanted. Hardly ever need to now.

HikuNoir,

I got the uber pedant… “While there are 54 recognized countries in Africa, none of them begin with the letter “K”. The closest is Kenya, which starts with a “K” sound, but is actually spelled with a “K” sound. It’s always interesting to learn new trivia facts like this.”

JoBo,

To be entirely fair to it, that is a transliteration problem. It does make sense if it could use Swahili to write the final “K” but it can’t, so it transliterates to “K”.

Then again, Kenya has both Swahili and English as its official languages, so it’s the kind of pedantry which is also (*sort of) incorrect.

  • sort of because if someone wants to have a rant about the evils of colonialism here, I’m gonna agree with them.
murtaza64,

As far as I know, Swahili is almost always written with the latin script.

JoBo,

That’s a not universally popular colonial imposition. Hence my final comment.

Clent,

Constantly forgetting I changed all my default search engines to DuckDuckGo.

Went to Google to test this…what a trash website.

Pushed me to download the app.

Pops up a recommendation to download Chrome.

Has clutter on the default search search form.

Looks more like yahoo than the google of yore

raptir,

What are you browsing in? I use Firefox and never get any of those popups when I use Google.

Clent,

This is the mobile experience, which makes it all the worse.

It’s popping banners like a shit news site.

raptir,

I’m using Firefox on Android and am not seeing anything like you’re mentioning.

ittu,

hasn’t been like it was for years now.

LaughingFox,
@LaughingFox@lemmy.world avatar

Thanks to this post, I changed my search engine in Vivaldi to DuckDuckGo, and Edge uses Bing already, and I changed Mull’s engine to Ecosia. Phew! Now I feel better.

Google when did you get so crummy?

Wolpertinger,
@Wolpertinger@sh.itjust.works avatar

Doesn’t Bing use ChatGPT, though?

casualPeeper,

And duck is based on bing

JohnnyCanuck,

ChatGPT isn’t the problem here. Some website has something up saying that’s what ChatGPT responds, but I tried it and it did not. Instead, it corrected me.

Google, on the other hand, is still saying the same thing quoting the same site.

ours,

If you are going to use Bing, may I suggest you use Ecosia (ecosia.org). They plant trees the more searches you make and use Bing on the backend.

drspod,

What’s their privacy policy like?

raptir,

The topic isn’t even true.

RaoulDook,

Yep it’s a post about somebody typing a dumb query into a search engine and getting dumb results. Search engines have always worked better when you use more specific and unique language that’s relevant to what you’re looking for, versus vague questions entered like some grandma asking a question on Facebook.

merde,

Searx is a free internet metasearch engine which aggregates results from more than 70 search services. Users are neither tracked nor profiled. Additionally, searx can be used over Tor for online anonymity.

https://www.qwant.com 🤷

dXq9dwg4zt,

All public searx instances:

searx.space

Chatotorix,
@Chatotorix@lemmy.world avatar

I tried and it is true here at least. Says Kenya is the closest but although it starts with a K sound, it’s spelled with a K sound. lmao

The only time I tried ChatGPT for something that required a little bit of processing it failed miserably. I had a shower thought, “what is the most used noun on lyrics of this band I like?” I asked it and it gave me random words. I decided to investigate and ask it what are specific lyrics of some of the most popular songs and it kept telling me made up lyrics, when I could actually find them immediately on Google.

readbeanicecream,
@readbeanicecream@kbin.social avatar

@JoBo I just googled it and Kenya came up as the first hit in Search and in Bard.

inverimus,

Same. On my account and when logged out the first result is about Kenya. This is happening because of personalized search.

raptir,

I get Kenya even if I am in an private window and not logged in.

antonim,

That’s not much of an excuse, if it’s meant to be one. Google “personalised” the results by making them worse?

aesthelete,

This is happening because of personalized search.

Doubtful, I opened up a privacy tab and typed this and received it as the first, non-paraphrased result.

The paraphrased result was correct, but I wouldn’t be surprised if Google is doing onesy, twosy patches when notable examples of it being completely full of AI bullshit arise.

JoBo,

RTFT and the thread is a link, not a post. I put quote marks in and everything.

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