Oh, that’s nice. Realistically, LW probably has the most chances of weathering a massive user onslaught, they kind of had to do it already, so hopefully could extend the same actuation protocols.
From what I understand from the video, Threads is also going to do it in several phases, starting with allowing the fediverse to follow a select few people on Threads, then allowing more people to get followed, then bidirectional messaging, then following anyone from anywhere.
They’re also pairing it with Threads launch in Europe, then citing it as a reason along “compliance” and “scrutiny on our company”, which IMHO is the main reason they’re doing any of this at all, since the EU seems to want open communication protocols and crack down on these international social behemots. The stepped approach means people on the fediverse will first be able to follow people on Threads, before the reverse happens, so content creators and influencers (or politicians) will want to use a Threads account to have a larger reach… which is how Meta might try to lure people off Mastodon, but we’ll see.
Not sure about ethics, but if the argument of “excessive moderation overhead” still holds true for staying defederated from Lemmy.world, the same should apply a thousandfold for Threads.
yeah i mean this is the veto even if we wanted to do this (which we don’t) and even if the community wanted it (which they clearly don’t seem to–nobody’s clamored for us to federate with Threads). even a tiny fraction of a fraction of threads being involved with our site would probably top the peak of workload we had when Lemmy took off. there is no current realistic circumstance in which we’d ever choose to or be able to federate with them.
I have a Beehaw account and another that federates with .world. I enjoy my Beehaw account much more, to the point I almost never use the other account. There’s just much more valuable content here.
I do miss some of the more niche Reddit subs i frequented before the purge. That’s probably the only thing really lacking. And it probably more a testament to how busy I’ve been this year. I just don’t have the time to explore other instance’s communities that Beehaw does federate with.
You don’t see/experience Beehaw as more argumentative than Reddit? I’ve had a hard time staying with Lemmy/Beehaw because people seem to pop out of the woodwork to have exhaustive arguments. If I could share two experiences.
One was me asking a popular game developer how they wrote a shader for Unity so I could port it to Godot. I got a nice reply on how they did it and even a link to the Godot version someone else did. I even got other people thanking me for that comment and opening the conversation up. Another time I was explaining what that Starfield designer said on Twitter recently wasn’t terrible. I explained calmly and clearly the point of view of a game developer and got responses that either people didn’t see it that way or that they thought the designer still shouldn’t have said those words because of the marketing timing. Overall the exchanges were great and not only gave me a new perspective but made me feel like I opened other people’s eyes.
The other experience of someone telling me because I plan to vote for Biden that I support genocide and they won’t hear anything about how I don’t. Another great example is how people are defending pirating games from any level of game developer. Even in threads where I comment and explain that pirating hurts employees, people don’t even have a decent conversation about it. They just want to keep excusing their behavior without discussion.
Overall, it’s made me wonder how people are experiencing Beehaw and Lemmy. If for some reason I am the odd one out. With my two experiences, one on Reddit and one on Beehaw, I question if I am the problem because of the experiences on Beehaw/Lemmy but it’s still me at the root of the experience. So, I feel like I’ve done the leg work to rule myself out.
I think that Beehaw/Lemmy just attract a certain type of person that typically agrees with each other but Reddit is a mixing pot of a bunch of opinions that have interesting conversations. Reddit feels like what Beehaw was supposed to be. I wish we could ensure our culture on Beehaw reflects our ideals but it’s starting to feel like they don’t and won’t.
You’re not the first person I’ve heard who said that so there must be something there. That’s not my experience however, I find that Reddit makes me angry these days, getting annoyed at all the low-effort, inconsiderate posting. Having a debate on Reddit is impossible I find because saying something that goes slightly against the hive-mind you’ll you’ll be passive-aggressively downvoted, which has a chilling effect on what people say. I like that Beehaw doesn’t have downvotes, especially on local communities. On Beehaw/Lemmy someone might argue with you but that’s at least better I think than the knee-jerk downvote-to-oblivion you get on Reddit.
It’s true that a lot of people are more similar here than on Reddit. I’d argue that’s not necessarily a bad thing. The one-size-fits-all social network for everybody approach I think doesn’t work, it’s more natural to choose a group you fit in to and feel comfortable with (which is how things were on old style forums and message boards). What ever happens to Lemmy/Beehaw in the future, the main thing I hope for is to have plenty of choice of smaller forums which is what’s been lacking in the last decade or so.
I’ve been experiencing more argumentation from non-beehaw users. I think they treat our communities (Politics, LGBTQ, News, etc.) as defaults and they don’t realize that they’re on beehaw. I’ve reminded people of the rules before and had responses telling me they didn’t realize they had posted on beehaw.
Unfortunately this is one of the downsides of federation. Without better mod tools for now we just ask that it report anyone who’s not being nice and we’ll do our best to manage it.
Reddit is so hostile to women that I never felt comfortable posting anything. I was a lurker. It took me 3 years to make an account, just so I could sub to places and not forget they existed. But in all my years on Reddit, I never posted. I saw how women would get roasted and never felt like part of that community. I would report many comments that were hateful towards women just for the report to come back and say “sorry, nothing wrong here”.
I went back to look up something and it just seems like a cesspool of bots. The front page is nothing but stupid questions that I’ve seen asked more than I can count, memes, screenshots of texts and AITA with the most outrageous scenarios and answers. And guess what, I still see the same hostility towards women. It’s hard to feel welcome and participate with a culture like that.
Way back in the day, Reddit was a place people would argue something to death. If you disagreed with the hive mind, you were shunned. And don’t even think about making a spelling or grammar mistake, you’d get blasted for that too. And every so often, someone would post something compelling, and Reddit would collectively hold that opinion as truth.
I left facebook in 2016, and Reddit feels a lot like facebook was when I left. And now it’s time to move away from Reddit; at least for me.
Hmm, maybe it’s because I joined in 2012 where the default subs were very different. On top of that, I dropped most of them for that sort of behavior. A lot of subreddits I’m in are small enough to filter out the cesspool of default Reddit. I just personally haven’t found that on Lemmy because there isn’t a ton of content here. Overall as I think about it, Lemmy and Reddit and probably social media in general is what you make it. Who you willingly subscribe/follow/etc.
I was on Reddit for a very long time and a few Lemmy instances when everyone moved. While it’s not perfect, Beehaw is by far the place where I can read comments that are original, less hateful, and less pedantic. I chose Behhaw because everything else is just exhausting to me
There is a big difference between a lot of content and quality content. I appreciate Beehaw for our quality, not the quantity. There are certainly some great content on other instances, but sorting through the crap noise to find the good, just isn’t worth my effort.
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