Your thoughts on The Orville?

When I first started this show I found it to be a really awkward mix of comedy and seriousness. It had some jokes thrown it at the most inopportune times as some kind of comic relief from a really serious situation. Perhaps the first half of the first season was actually a bit rough or maybe the show just grew on me, but by season 2 I found myself loving this show.

To me it seems as every bit as comfy, intellectually interesting and even funny as some classic Star Treks while still clearly being its own thing. I wish more comfy space shows like this would get made.

What are your thoughts on The Orville? Also I miss Alara.

Xariphon,

It's the best Star Trek series since DS9.

I miss Alara, too. Lieutenant Replacement Goldfish isn't nearly as good.

It's BS that Yaphit got a medal for that business with the Kaylons but Ty Finn didn't. He was the actual hero there!

Dolly Parton cameo had me friggin' dying.

Semi-Hemi-Demigod,
@Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social avatar

I bet Dolly was just tickled pink that her song is a revolutionary anthem

yeather,

I think she got a kick out of it, she was smiling like a school girl the entire cameo.

WhiteTiger,
@WhiteTiger@sh.itjust.works avatar

I stopped watching shortly after Alara left. I mostly couldn’t stand the Captain and his ex, or any of their humor stuck in the year 2005, and the only other characters I really liked weren’t part of the ‘main team’.

dmrzl,

Always thought the whole parody aspect was just a means to get funding to just make a regular star trek series in disguise. If someone would just give the man money for exactly that we would have an awesome star trek series.

Lem453,

Orville season 3 has a few episodes that are easily up to par in the top 10-20 star trek episodes of all times.

phx,

The Orville is what would happen if the offspring of Star Trek and Galaxy Quest married Lexx and had a baby.

It actually has a lot of the same style social commentary that really Trek ToS and TNG had, combined with the absurdity and humor of GQ and periods of no-punches-pulled raunchy. I mean, go Yaphit and we all know kinky shit happened in holedecks too but it’s something else to see on screen.

I am very much looking forward to the next season. It’s actually one of the very few sci-fi movies I’ve gotten my wife to watch with me that she enjoyed

SpaceNoodle,

holedecks

Freudian slip, eh?

phx,

LoL. Yup, but still accurate

Adalast,

Love the coincidence, I am actually watching “Twice in a Lifetime” right now. I love the show so much. In many ways I see it as a more realistic Star Trek. The characters are flawed, they bicker and squabble and make bad decisions so often that they can’t feel guilty for them or else it would crush them. I adore Star Trek, but the writing and characterizations in Orville are so relatable for me. The people are projections of my friends and family, for better or worse.

Also, at least the actress who played Alara got to date Seth Macfarlane.

Riker_Maneuver,
@Riker_Maneuver@startrek.website avatar

While I don’t regret watching it—and I’d probably even throw on a new season if it gets one—I felt like it was missing any true classic episodes. I also kept having this strange sense of familiarity with episodes, as if it was just repurposing or rehashing older Star Trek plots.

I kept thinking, “Wasn’t there a TNG/DS9/Whatever episode that explored this same general concept/idea, but better?”. It felt like it was maybe borrowing just a bit too much from it’s inspiration.

yeather,

The spider episode with Alara is a classic imo.

yeather,

Great show in my opinion, liked season one and season two, while not so into season three until Charlie died. Definitely the highlight of that season.

hal_5700X,
@hal_5700X@lemmy.world avatar

Best modern Star Trek show.

By “modern Star Trek” I mean every show from Discovery to Strange New Worlds.

RoyalEngineering,

I just started watching SNW and I like it so far. Sounds like you aren’t a fan?

hal_5700X,
@hal_5700X@lemmy.world avatar

I didn’t see it yet. But I heard mix things about it.

Arn_Thor,

After the first season, which was an obligatory “Star Trek Type Show Finds Its Feet” season, it really hit its stride to become the best Star Trek since DS9. Not in name, but certainly in spirit. So earnest, with a great message throughout. Sure it had some mediocre jokes here and there but so did TNG, let’s not forget. I was sitting around just the other day thinking how I missed watching The Orville

RoyalEngineering,

I feel the same way. Hope it comes back for another season.

SupraMario,

Pretty sure it’s renewed. The writers strike is probably going to slow down the release though

cspiegel,

When The Orville came out, I hadn’t watched much Star Trek. Growing up, TNG was the one television show that my parents would break the “no TV at the dinner table” rule for, though it happened rarely enough that I really have no memory of it.

About 20 years ago I watched several episodes of TOS and liked it well enough.

I always wanted to like Star Trek, so ~10 years ago I tried season 1 of TNG, which I now realize is rather universally considered an error; and as a result, I didn’t much care for TNG. But I still wanted to like it, and Star Trek in general! So when I saw The Orville, I decided to give it a shot. And while I agree that the early mix of comedy with more serious material was a bit off-putting, I thoroughly enjoyed the show. This was what TNG was trying to be (I mean, that’s not really fair, but it was my initial sense).

Which then led me to season 3 of TNG, which I started watching last year. And I absolutely love it, and find it overall better than The Orville (which I still really like); but The Orville was basically my gateway to actually enjoying Star Trek.

So maybe I’m coming inside-out from most viewers, but I really like The Orville, and as a bonus, it got me “back” into Star Trek proper.

bitsplease,

Like others said, the humor started out really awkward and forced, but I feel like they hit their stride by season 2

I don’t think it’ll ever go down in the annals of the greatest scifi shows I history. But as you say, it’s a really excellent “comfy” show

spiderkle,
@spiderkle@lemmy.ca avatar

we need a new season!

db2,

It had some jokes thrown it at the most inopportune times

That’s Seth humor in a nutshell.

Perhaps the first half of the first season was actually a bit rough

Name a show that started off any other way though. Even SG1 is cringe in the first season. Lexx maybe, but even that one grew different after the first few episodes.

Izzy, (edited )
@Izzy@lemmy.world avatar

Good points. I’m was just unsure whether that was actually the case and I got used to it or it actually improved.

wesley,

I like it! It’s a nice casual space show with a decent mix of humor and seriousness.

I find it to be more “star trek” than some of the new star trek shows.

Lucidlethargy,

I really disliked it. I thought it was a really poorly constructed clone of “Star Trek: The Next Generation”, and not a subtle one at that. The cut scenes, the sounds… It was all so incredibly “old” feeling.

The relationship between the robot and the doctor was excruciatingly cringy. It was so insanely contrived, and I can’t conceive of why anyone tolerated it, let alone enjoyed it.

This said, it’s not all bad. I enjoyed one or two episodes, I liked the comedy aspect, and I also enjoyed many of the CGI special effects.

NotMyOldRedditName,

Whatever you think of the show, it gave us one of, if not the most, epic CGI space battle. It was so damn long and intricate.

Lucidlethargy,

Which one? I either don’t recall, or I need to check that out! I’ve seen something like 80% of the entire series, if I recall correctly. I did admittedly skip a few of the episodes, though.

NotMyOldRedditName,

The main battle against the robots at earth, but one of the other ones as well was really good.

The earth one was exceptionally long for a space cgi battle.

rufus, (edited )

Wow, i don’t know many people who dislike it. I think the TNG-clone feeling is deliberate. I think like science fiction holds up a mirror to our world… they chose to hold up another mirror and simultaneously copy The Next Generation. There is the doctor, a robot/android… you quickly catch many similarities… but further along things start to get skewed, sometimes your expectations get fulfilled or ruined and they play with the stereotypes. I think it’s kind of genius and often times gives it one or two additional layers of depth. Especially when they simultaneously discuss philosophical stuff and simultaneously play with TNG storytelling tropes. Like when they introduced people on the orville are vegan. and star trek still struggles with that today and people far in the future are super advanced, but randomly kill cows to eat them.

I also think the relationship between the android and the doctor has a certain cringy-ness to it. We currently see AI slowly becoming reality. It is very up to date to discuss people having relationships with machines. But they somehow do it in a weird and strange way. And too dramatic. But remember, there’s also Wesley Crusher. And Captain Proton and some weird robots on Voyager’s holodeck.

I don’t know why you associate that “old” feeling with something negative. It reminds me of good times, watching star trek series as a kid. And to this date i like those sounds more than the atmospheric sounds of recent Star Trek. And I also like the light and bright spaceships more than the recent tv shows that all happen at night and have dark and dimly lit sets. like Picard.

ashok36,

Like when they introduced people on the orville are vegan.

Malloy’s line delivery in Season 3 when he confesses to killing and eating animals really goes a long way to show how far the ethical mores of future society have moved. He basically felt like a murderer because, to him at least, that’s exactly what he felt like. Contrast that against his prior characterization as the goofy, prankster guy and you get so much more depth of character from him.

It’s like Marty McFly admitting to Doc Brown that he killed and ate Biff because the Doc left the two on a desert island and timey wimey weirdness meant he showed back up two months later than he expected. Heavy stuff.

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