FUCK TICKETMASTER (Rant)

I FUCKING HATE THIS SERVICE. Assholes don’t let you delete your account and ask you to go to their privacy policy page and read through 500 pages of text to find the instructions on how to delete your account, only for it to say you have to contact them to delete it, and when you contact them they never respond back other than the automated email response. Absolute cancer that always adds on 20 extra dollars to all of your tickets at checkout time when seats are quickly selling out. FUCK THIS MONOPOLY AND FUCK THE CORPORATE DICK SUCKING MANIACS RUNNING IT.

Sendbeer,

Adam Conover just did a video on mega mergers and Ticketmaster was prominently featured. I thought it was pretty well done, but hope you like the guy because he takes his personality to 11 on this one.

Fuck these monopoly fucks.

CraigeryTheKid,

I know exactly what you mean with Adam. I do like him, and his content, but wow yeah his “brand” of engagement can be exhausting.

SoylentBlake,

Adam was touring his comedy set recently, outside Ticketmaster, which is next to impossible to do.

I got mad respect for the guy, actually practices what he preaches.

When he goes back on tour; if you see a show in a town you know people, help spread the word for him, since he’s doing it all homegrown.

PP_BOY_,
@PP_BOY_@lemmy.world avatar

Plenty of artists tour outside of Ticketmaster, just not big ones. The best thing to do is find a venue near you that isn’t owned by LiveNation and follow them on social media/subscribe to their mailing list.

SoylentBlake,

As I’ve always done, being an elder millennial. In the olden days yonder we had to bookmark individual webpages and create rss feeds, but even rss didn’t emerge until like the mid aughties. AOL had been around 10 years and damn near died by then, sames as yahoo.

I miss the old Internet. Sigh

adespoton,

The fall of the old Internet was when AOL, CompuServe and Prodigy got peering rights and Classmates.com started up.

That said, I do most of my shopping online now and have likely saved years of my life due to not having to hunt through stores only to find they could “order it in” for me.

And I’ve never used TicketMaster since they went online, and don’t feel like I’m missing anything. I prefer smaller venues.

SoylentBlake,

I feel ya about the savings. Almost everything I buy is shopped around AliExpress, Amazon, eBay, Craigslist then local. The trick is figuring out if the physical stores are passing any of its wholesale bulk savings to you.

Usually, that’s a laughable assumption, but some things, like individual plumbing or electrical parts, just go to the big box (except for anything copper, it’s like half the price online).

Tractor Supply has a decent amount of items at margin. By that I mean, like 15%. Which is way more than most places.

Mugmoor,
@Mugmoor@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

You have other options thankfully. If you’re in a large city, you can often find small independent retailers which sell tickets. When I lived in Toronto I used to go to a record shop to buy mine.

You can also go to the venue directly. Oftentimes if it’s a smaller venue they’ll have tickets available as well. Stadiums usually don’t go this route, but it’s worth a shot.

Lastly there are other online retailers for tickets like stubhub.com

Ticketmaster is a goddamn scam. The entire industry knows it, but it makes money for the labels so they tolerate it. There’s a reason Taylor Swift and The Cure have been making a big stink about them lately. I personally won’t go to a concert if Ticketmaster is the only retailer, but I’m fortunate that most bands I see play in smaller venues.

scytale,

Stubhub, Seatgeek, etc. tack on their own fees as well. There’s really no escape especially for large venues (arenas, stadiums) where they have a monopoly on ticket selling. Thankfully the 2 local small venues in my city where most of the acts I follow go to still use a different ticketing vendor and you can also still buy at the box office.

PP_BOY_,
@PP_BOY_@lemmy.world avatar

EventBrite and eTix ftw

SoylentBlake,

Ticketmaster is known for having clauses that prohibit venues from using any other service, so the joint is either a Ticketmaster venue or independent.

So saying there are other options it’s optimistic at best. Every year those options dwindle.

Fuck Ticketmaster, that’s bully pulpit shit. Market manipulation.

LoraxEleven,

Preach that shit.

Fucking cunts are worthless. Haven’t used that shit since I got deployed to the Middle East in 1996; three days before the KISS concert we payed out the ass for and they wouldn’t refund our tickets. One of the very top shitty corporations on Earth. Nobody should ever use them or any of their relative companies.

mathemachristian,

The service ticketmaster offers is not selling you tickets, the service is to the producers, artists etc. They get a huge cut off the sales and even get to choose what bullshit fees ticketmaster can use when selling their tickets, but ticketmaster gets the hate for it and they are still in the clear with their fans.

Ticketmaster is the apron these people use to keep themselves clean of the hate while they squeeze every last dime out of their fans pockets.

gamermanh,

No, Ticketmaster is most certainly to blame as their massive control over venues and ticket sales makes artists bend over to their demands as well

brimnac,

“Why not both.”

Hacksaw,

Remember when Fucking Pearl Jam tried to avoid Ticketmaster because of their scummy shit and even tried to sue them and failed.

Pepperidge farm remembers news.yahoo.com/1994-pearl-jam-took-ticketmaster-2…

Ticketmaster isn’t just a front for shitty artists because then artists trying to not be shitty wouldn’t have a problem.

nomadjoanne,

They are Satan incarnate.

dotslashme,

I’m not disagreeing, but most of the things you list are true for any major internet servive.

circuitfarmer,
@circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

That many businesses have equally shitty practices certainly doesn’t mean we should stop complaining about them and calling them out.

Uncle_Bagel,

Even putting the vertical monopoly aside, their app is straight up useless and doesn’t work. I spent 3 hours trying to buy tickets for a show today and the app first wouldn’t let me log in, then it wouldn’t let me put in a pre-sale code to get discountes tickets, then it crashed multiple times on the payment page. So not only are they the only place to buy tickets to a lot of shows, they make it almost impossible to actually buy the tickets from their own freaking service.

Elektrobank,

But they will gladly resell you the tickets they sold themselves for 10X face value

MDKAOD,

Big bank bots are buying up the tickets for credit card points redemption, which is why the site gets ddos’ed, causing the site to not work for regular users. Credit card companies are listing the tickets for resale at the inflated rates their customer points are equated to.

Banks have found another avenue of profit in this.

dingus,
@dingus@lemmy.ml avatar

Sounds like everyone should have listened to Pearl Jam thirty years ago when Tickermaster wasn’t a complete monopoly.

Someonelol,

These days many websites outright block anyone using Tor from browsing them. They want their precious visitor data for resale to advertisers even if many of them block their ads anyway.

circuitfarmer,
@circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I noticed that VPN issue when I tried to buy event tickets a while back. Super scummy. They don’t need to know my home IP to sell me tickets. On the app, even if you have location services on, it just refuses you a connection via VPN.

Anamnesis,

How do they know that you’re on a VPN?

Zikeji,
@Zikeji@programming.dev avatar

Usually they just check your IP against a list of known VPN IP ranges. But they could also be blocking all IPs from data centers and only allowing residential IPs.

Nastybutler,

Obstensibly it’s to stop scammers

reginagrogan,
@reginagrogan@mastodon.social avatar

@MagneticFusion hey, not sure what state you are in, but the california consumer privacy act is a forcing feature to rip your info off of any sites that will not delete it. California right to delete.

MagneticFusion,

I have requested it under the CCPA but they have not responded yet

yoppa,

I stopped going to concerts years ago. What a peaceful life. Wish I knew it before.

reddthat_209,

Amen brotha, same here!

Devjavu,

The one guy that downvoted does not yet know the frustration of the master of tickets

MagneticFusion,

three guys now

Devjavu,

It’s a restaurant now

reddthat_209,

I personally haven’t gone to concerts anymore because of ticketmaster & ticket costs, no thanks, I’m good.

krolden,
@krolden@lemmy.ml avatar

bars/clubs that take cash at the door still exist

laconicsoftware,

Dont know about where you’re from but when someone says concert they usually mean large production in an arena or other large seating capacity venue. Not something that is held at bars. I’d call something I go to at a bar a “show”.

MedicPigBabySaver,

Agree. My GF and I go to plenty of “shows”.

The handful of bigger venues we attend sell tickets directly. Like Tanglewood or Boston Symphony Hall.

krolden,
@krolden@lemmy.ml avatar

yeah true

RQG,
@RQG@lemmy.world avatar

Really depends on the genre of music you are into. If you enjoy some obscure shit then somesitmes bar concert is as big as it gets. But you are of course correct for all popular music genres.

mihor,
@mihor@lemmy.ml avatar

Popular is mostly shit. I went to Joe Satriani years ago, it was not in an arena but a small(ish) sports hall. Best concert ever. I was expecting a lot more audience, though, since Joe is basically one of the best guitarists.

loutr,
@loutr@sh.itjust.works avatar

A concert is a “live music performance in front of an audience”. It’s a type of show. A dude with a guitar playing songs in a bar is a concert. Lots of professional artists play in smaller venues like bars in a dedicated room, and that’s the best kind of concerts IMO.

triclops6,

Everyone should do this, let the whale die, small venues and direct to customer sales only

I lol at ticket prices now

Disgusted_Tadpole,
@Disgusted_Tadpole@lemmy.ml avatar

Idk if it’s possible, but you could try saying you’re now a EU citizen and you want all you data and everything related to you deleted, according to GDPR laws.

MagneticFusion,

I requested a data deletion according to California laws but we shall see how they handle that considering they have not responded to me at all

miss_brainfart,
@miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml avatar

Wow, even Discord is nice enough to have the Clyde Bot respond

Atemu,
@Atemu@lemmy.ml avatar

Do California’s laws not allow you to sue for such violations?

In the EU the company has 30 days to comply and af they don’t, you can sue for damages IIRC.

WaxedWookie,

Assuming you don’t live in California, and can’t follow through on your threats, you’re better off using GDPR - it’s got more teeth.

Also feel free to harass them on whatever public forum works for you and contact their exec via LinkedIn.

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