Phegan,

He’s still the frontrunner for the Republican nomination by a wide margin, there is no one who is showing like they will compete, even after this most recent indictment. Republicans will still rally behind him if he gets the nomination. Unless his trials are ahead of the election, which they likely aren’t, nothing will change.

ghostBones,

He’s a frontrunner from lack of options, not from appeal. Other potential candidates are too intimidated knowing that if they run against him, he will shower them with insults and innuendo daily and try to bully them into backing out.

NathanielThomas,

But isn’t this because nobody cares? HIs voters are convinced he’s innocent and nothing’s going to happen to him.

Subverb,

Maybe I’m just a cynical old man, but likely nothing is going to happen to him.

PS: I was alive for Watergate. Ford pardoned Nixon.

stevedidWHAT,
@stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world avatar

Isn’t this such an awesome, totally non hypocritical country

bandario,
@bandario@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Watergate was a soft coup. He was taken down by the same structure that killed Kennedy. Your country is run by spooks, pretending to be a democracy.

Canyon201,
@Canyon201@lemmy.world avatar

Bye fel-cheeto!

HiddenLayer5,
@HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml avatar

The fascists aren’t stupid. They see the writing on the wall so they’re moving on. Completely expected and even if Trump gets the death penalty the threat is by no means gone. Trump is a symptom, not the disease itself.

Hadriscus,

Absolutely. I was talking to a friend the other day and he suggested hiring a hitman through crowdfunding to shoot Macron. I told him, Macron is just a symptom. This hydra has a bunch of other heads ready to sprout, you’ll get life for nothing

spikederailed,

I’m reminded of the NoFX song “the man I killed”

SouthEndSunset,

This is a major problem with the right wing, there is no principles or loyalty or anything. It’s not the major problem, it’s just one.

HiddenLayer5, (edited )
@HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml avatar

Additionally, a leader is just a tool used by a collective. The collective is in power, not the leader. Trump is no longer useful to them so he is being replaced, just like how a medieval king who fails to please his court of nobles is overthrown for a king that can.

Whether you can overthrow a leader simply depends on if you’re part of the collective they serve or not. The reason the general public can’t get rid of corrupt politicians or near universally hated people like Bezos or Elon, is because the collective that appoints them is not the public, but much like the medieval king, they only have to answer to a small group of modern day nobles (AKA the corporations, investors, and ultra rich in general).

It’s the ruling class, not the individual ruler, that calls the shots. Always. Because a single person can never enforce their rule alone, it requires a group that collectively has sufficient power to enforce their collective rule.

subarctictundra,

This sounds eye openingly Putin-esque

MonsiuerPatEBrown, (edited )

Beard has a great quote from her book SPQR

“If the assassination of Julius Caesar became a model for the effective removal of a tyrant, it was also a powerful reminder that getting rid of a tyrant did not necessarily dispose of tyranny.”

HiddenLayer5,
@HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml avatar

An analogy I like: If you have a toxic, dangerous plant in your garden, like the Gympie Gympie maybe, do you remove it by snipping off the leaf bud at the very top, or do you pull it out roots and all?

MonsiuerPatEBrown,

I don’t think that those are the only options. But I will think on it.

MonsiuerPatEBrown,

I think that my problem is that I don’t agree with the analogy between the tree between the human. Every human, I believe, have a context to find personal change. And GimpyGimpy trees do not. And that is why I disagree with the premise.

JustZ,

I leave it there, dripping in glyphosate, as a message to other weeds.

TheLowestStone,
@TheLowestStone@lemmy.world avatar

Unfortunately, he’s still vastly in the lead for the gop nomination.

Grant_M,
@Grant_M@lemmy.ca avatar

He has to be pissed that Jarvanka took the 3 billion and booked without kicking up to the head czar

Grant_M,
@Grant_M@lemmy.ca avatar

Sad trombone lol

Spacegrass,
Taako_Tuesday,

What victims of a real witch hunt look like

wazoobonkerbrain,

That wasn’t a witch hunt, they were guilty.

Taako_Tuesday,

Still shouldn’t have been executed

TheWoozy,

Not only were they guilty, their were probably others, but the FBI quit whole it was ahead…the opposite of a witch hunt.

Bluefalcon,

Most of the protesters aren’t allowed near Washington DC government buildings due to their plea deals.

Tigbitties,
@Tigbitties@kbin.social avatar

Awesome

RichardBonham,
@RichardBonham@kbin.social avatar

Headline: "Trump rawdogs own arraignment!"

SouthEndSunset,

I also read he said he’d get his supporters to boycott elections.

elbarto777,

One can only hope!

eran_morad,

Fucking traitor. Lock him the fuck up.

Son_of_dad,

It’s never gonna happen. At most he’ll become bogged down in lawsuits and charges till he dies. But there’s no way they’ll ever allow a u.s president to set foot in jail

Zetta,

Hard disagree.

This stupid cuck is going to jail 100% if he does not win the next presidential election. Our legal system can be pretty fucked up sometimes but it’s not that fucked up, this guy literally tried to overthrow our democracy.

Lucidlethargy,

I’m not saying he’s not going to jail, but I am saying our system is absolutely fucked. This dude is free years after openly trying to overthrow our democratic processes. The most blatant example (Georgia) isn’t even one of the indictments he’s currently facing.

WoahWoah,

Yet.

scoredseqrica,

“it’s not that fucked up” - doubt.

treefrog,

All the legal analysis I read has suggested house arrest because of the secret service for life deal.

I hope he does real time but I’m not optimistic.

TechnoBabble,

House arrest in Trump’s giant resort mansion.

It makes sense, but it’s more than a little unsatisfying.

Personally I’d love to see Trump in ADX Florence.

Osirus,

If he doesn’t win the next presidential election, he’ll go to jail… I’d say that’s REALLY fucked up bud.

SouthEndSunset,

I was told in my local pub yesterday that someone with a criminal record can still be president. But I’m British, and drink with people who chat shit. The landlord in said pub also said that Oceangate was eaten by a megalodon, and landlords like to chat shit.

roy_mustang76,

Someone who is literally in jail can become President, technically. What the day-to-day reality of that would be, I’ve no clue. But it’s technically possible, and we’ve had people (most notably Eugene Debs) run from behind bars.

SouthEndSunset,

Yeah this was literally the conversation, with some speculation.

SouthEndSunset,

Can he pardon himself?

TheLowestStone,
@TheLowestStone@lemmy.world avatar

On the federal charges.

roy_mustang76,

Theoretically, on the federal charges, but not any state charges (such as the ones expected to be brought in Georgia)

Of course, a self-pardon has never been tested, and while the composition of the Supreme Court should be favorable to him doing so, it’s not guaranteed that they would actually be on board. There would be a constitutional crisis if he tried to self-pardon, and the Supreme Court ruled that he could not (which could be nearly solved by impeachment of either the President or various Justices, but that will not happen under the present dysfunction of the Senate)

elbarto777,

cuck

I hate this word so much because his supporters used it ad nauseum.

But I’m okay with it just this one time.

Zetta,

Ahh, I wasn’t aware of that

elbarto777,

I envy you.

WheeGeetheCat,
@WheeGeetheCat@sh.itjust.works avatar

I hope you’re wrong personally

Warfarin,

Agreed the laptop should be plenty evidence how little they care

And the leaked call where they just used Ukraine to get more support? Actually disgusting

afraid_of_zombies,

Ok Boris.

rambaroo,

Lmao the sheer projection in bringing ukraine into this when Trump literally blackmailed them and broke the law to try to score political points. Straight up traitor

Warfarin,

Not knowing the history of Nazi Ukraine is typical

mayo,
@mayo@lemmy.world avatar

Regurgitating Fox news talking points is also typical. Literally incapable of critical thinking.

Warfarin,

They literally have Nazi factions lol

WorldieBoi,

He’s not alone. He still has millions of US voters on his side.

keeb420,

keep donating to his reelection campaign. his lawyers appreciate it.

vertigo3pc,

You mean his pattern of betraying everyone somehow backfired?

marciealana,

Oh no! Anyway…

spacedancer,

I imagine one of the prosecutors touches Trump’s forehead for a few seconds, then says: “It’s afraid!”

gornar,
@gornar@lemmy.world avatar

Excellent reference!

dancingsnail,

The only good bug is a dead bug

Deceptichum,
@Deceptichum@kbin.social avatar

They’d never get the Cheeto fingers off.

DarkGamer,
@DarkGamer@kbin.social avatar

I would like to know more.

Jase,
@Jase@lemmy.world avatar

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  • fisco,
    @fisco@lemmy.ml avatar

    Well said 👏🏻

    hitmyspot,

    I think the point is that usually there is a gaggle of hangers on, that think they can avoid being thrown under the bus. That group is shrinking.

    Supporters are still supporters, but less inclined to make an effort to support. It’s a sign of waning power as the emperor’s new clothes are indeed missing.

    benecere,

    What even is this article?

    An itchy word-worm crafted to crawl under his thin orange skin

    Ghyste,

    What checks? They think they’re getting paid?

    bernieecclestoned,

    He’s raked in hundreds of millions in political donations since this started, they’ve been paid more than 40m so far

    pbs.org/…/trump-political-committee-has-spent-mor…

    SulaymanF,

    And yet he still stiffed Rudy Giuliani.

    Giuliani should have seen it coming though, it’s like someone who marries a known cheater and is shocked they got cheated on.

    Justice,
    @Justice@lemmygrad.ml avatar

    That’s one of the coolest things he’s ever done though. You’re redeeming Trump in my eyes right now

    some_guy,

    Well, Rudy had a number of embarrassing moments in public that I think caused Trump to lose any respect he might have had for the former mayor. Two that I can think of, the hair dye sweating down his face and the fart picked up on mic in a courtroom.

    But his worst offense, in terms of how Trump views people: he lost. He’s a loser.

    SulaymanF,

    Win or lose, Trump would never pay. He stiffs vendors for good or bad jobs.

    RunningInRVA,

    You forgot their perfect press conference at the lovely Four Seasons Landscaping company.

    PersnickityPenguin,

    That was one of the funniest things ive ever witnessed on tv. I talked about it for weeks with friends.

    FlyingSquid,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    Next to an adult novelties store.

    Ghyste,

    I didn’t think I needed to state that that was a joke.

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