query,

I’m not a big fan of animal agriculture, but I don’t get why milk is singled out, as if we don’t consume the dead bodies of animals, bodies that weren’t “meant for” anything other than sustaining itself.

And we’ve been doing it for thousands of years, selectively breeding and domesticating cows for the purpose. Humans drinking cow’s milk is more natural than carrots being orange.

ilikekeyboards,

Vegans should wake up a bit. I’m vegetarian. It was never about animal suffering. There are people suffering right now. For me it’s about our survival. It’s unsustainable.

8 billions of us having a carnivore diet will destroy the planet dot

seitanic,
@seitanic@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I think that meat and dairy are both unethical, but other animals do eat meat. AFAIK, humans are the only animal that drinks milk outside of their species. (Or drinks milk as an adult, for that matter!)

seitanic,
@seitanic@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Supermarkets aren’t selling human milk, though. It’s milk from an entirely different animal.

xX_fnord_Xx,

Yup. Human milk is for babies. Cows milk is for calves.

baked_tea,

Yep the bone in my left calf could use some

imgonnatrythis,

Really curious why a bear?

ElPussyKangaroo,

Because… Why not?

Pyr_Pressure,

A cow would be an altogether different comic

AllonzeeLV,

Now I’m going to eat you, little human.

HEY MARY, YOU WANT SOME HUMAN?

“I said fuck off, pervert!”

toxicbubble,

because the dairy industry is tax subsidized & pays for propaganda commercials to make people think you need cow’s milk as an adult

MariaRomanov,
@MariaRomanov@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

okay but on the other hand
have you tried ice cream???

raptir,

Or cheese?

seitanic,
@seitanic@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I love ice cream!..made from oat milk. Or soy milk.

lte678,

I don’t know a single person who consumes milk because they think they require it. They just like the taste of dairy products.

The subsidization is an issue imo, but I don’t think people are as brainwashed regarding milk as you assume.

imgonnatrythis,

My fart levels get dangerously low if I don’t consume enough dairy.

Malfeasant,

McDonald’s can help with that…

DrQuint,

…or because it tastes good.

rubberducky182,

and as we all know, taste justifies every kind of cruelty. /s

ImFresh3x,

I’ve got news for you. Adults drank milk way before any of those things existed.

soggywhale,

Still gross

ImFresh3x,

Most the things I like are “icky.” Luckily what I like isn’t determined by a child. I like liking things.

Rodeo,

Any thing is gross if you describe well enough.

Vegetables are the fruiting body of the plant. They arise from the interaction of the sexual parts of the plant. The function of a fruiting body is protect the seeds and provide nourishment, much like the womb and placenta do for a zygote.

Hope you enjoy your plant utereses with unborn babies inside.

taj,

That actually depends on the vegetable. Tomatoes and peppers are fruit, technically. Carrots and radishes on the other hand are actually the roots of the carrot plant. Celery, we eat part of the stems. Lettuce and spinach we eat the leaves of. Etc

Rodeo,

I’m sure you can invent some allegory to body parts for each of those.

Food is only as gross as we make it out to be.

Perfide,

A hot dog is even grosser but I still like them. My grandma would lick her fingers clean after eating chicken giblets while even the concept of eating that stuff made my stomach turn.

What’s gross to you is a smorgasbord for somebody.

chocobo13z,

Only a rather small group of people were even able to consume milk past infancy without negative health effects, and that’s mostly because they were the ones that survived the famine that necessitated surviving such a diet. Lactase persistence is a recessive gene

ImFresh3x, (edited )

Small group of many, many millions of people. We like milk. We don’t need commercials to tell us it tastes good.

I honestly don’t know what the fuck you weirdos are trying to accomplish. Are you saying we don’t enjoy milk? Or simply that we shouldn’t?

Because if the argument is that it’s advertising that made use enjoy is, you’re wrong. We enjoyed it well before ads.

And if your argument is that we should dislike something simply because you expect us to dislike something, I think you’ve got your own disorder.

I don’t hate what you hate. Fool, Get a clue.

Glad my ancestors survived your favorite famine. Also glad I have feet. Evolution is neat.

Btw I’m Italian. We drink milk. And we eat cheese. We are tied with Japan for the longest national lifespan. We will also drink coffee if there ok with you. Thanks! Do what you do over there. We got this.

chocobo13z,

Wow, here’s something I would have expected from Reddit, not Lemmy. I’ll just be a weirdo, not funding the horrors we subject cattle in order to obtain something that the population of only a few countries can even consume past infancy, of which the original need was borne of desperation. But you like it, so you do you, and to hell with everyone else, human or otherwise.

Vegasimov,

You come across as such an asshole

LufyCZ,

In that case you’re exactly who the comment’s targeting

Vegasimov,

So you’re just completely hostile to anyone who doesn’t agree with you?

query,

As in, people have literally evolved to be able to drink cow’s milk.

Laticauda,

I mean, I understand criticizing the dairy industry, but another big factor is that milk also taste good. Humans drank milk before it was industrialized.

MariaRomanov,
@MariaRomanov@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

This man is literally out here upset about milk, are y’all this bored

TimewornTraveler,

animal rights is when boredom

MariaRomanov,
@MariaRomanov@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

We have a symbiotic relationship with Dairy Cows.

MariaRomanov,
@MariaRomanov@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

This comic makes no sense. The guy isn’t wearing pants.

Okokimup,
@Okokimup@lemmy.world avatar

Hey men can wear dresses too.

Chemical,

Looks like they’re having post-coital talk to me

Mothra,
@Mothra@mander.xyz avatar

I heard stuff about Baldur’s Gate, maybe this is a reference?

Especially_the_lies,
@Especially_the_lies@startrek.website avatar

Chill. He’s wearing a medieval tunic.

Fixbeat,

Bears should just enslave some other animals to produce milk for them. Simple.

SubArcticTundra,

Ants do that. I think they enslave aphids

NakariLexfortaine,

They do! Well, at least certain species do. They groom the aphids to harvest a sweet excretion.

It’s a really neat relationship.

MarigoldPuppyFlavors,

Love me some sweet excretion. What a life, to be an ant.

pjhenry1216,

I mean, it's not just any excretion. It's a byproduct of sorts of the aphids digestive system.

From wikipedia on "Honeydew (secretion)":

When their mouthpart penetrates the phloem, the sugary, high-pressure liquid is forced out of the anus of the aphid.

electric,

mouthpart penetrates the phloem

liquid is forced out of the anus

Sweet Jesus.

pjhenry1216,

Sweet Jesus.

Yes, apparently it does taste very sweet.

I'll see myself out.

tetraodon,

It’s a really neat relationship.

No, it’s a really ant relationship.

quickly grabs coat even though it’s sweltering hot

Holzkohlen,
@Holzkohlen@feddit.de avatar

I assume someone made porn of this.

NakariLexfortaine,

Well, there’s at least video of ants getting the honeydew, so I guess if one’s kinky enough, it’s porn for ants.

kamenlady,
@kamenlady@lemmy.world avatar

Ant porn for humans with that extra kink™

SuddenDownpour,

Ants can be brutal. Some species of ants steal the eggs of different colonies to force them to work for their own colony. Sometimes, the kidnapped ants rebel and lay waste to the interior of the colony that kidnapped them if they think they can overpower them.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slave-making_ant

CaptainEffort,

Are they stupid?

dotslashme,

This one always make me laugh.

dingus,
@dingus@lemmy.ml avatar

Get yourself a girl who lets you suck the milk from her tiddies, folks.

AllonzeeLV,

Just to clarify though, not a first date question.

More like third.

ThrowawayPermanente,

Disagree. Put it in your profile. Filter hard and early.

Mothra,
@Mothra@mander.xyz avatar

Both methods acceptable, but if it wasn’t on the profile then it definitely shouldn’t be brought up on the first date

metallic_z3r0,

You want to get their interest, but as this might be one of those deal breaker questions, you should get it out of the way early. There’s no shame in breaking up from an incompatibility in attraction or sexual preference, but there should be some shame at sticking with it expecting another person to change for you.

Waraugh,

My girlfriend hates anal but likes to role play rape so it works out.

Holzkohlen,
@Holzkohlen@feddit.de avatar

Nope. That shit ain’t pasteurized.

ImFresh3x,

I only drink raw milk anyhow.

gallopingsnail,
@gallopingsnail@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Why take the risk of getting a preventable disease?

Aux,

People were drinking unpausterised milk for thousands of years. The risks are minimal.

chocobo13z,

People lived into their thirties for thousands of years, though

Dalinar,

They died as children or as soldiers. Thirties is if you’re a woman dying in child birth.

Aux,

They didn’t though.

areyouevenreal,

Not really. Even old fashioned farmers boil their milk. Almost all milk contains dangerous bacteria regardless of what the safety standards are; this is because things like e.coli are natural for cows but harmful to us humans. Like imagine defending a practice that can literally kill you or give you life long digestive problems.

Aux,

Fun fact, e. Coli is a family of bacteria, most of them are harmless to humans. They are even a part of many diet supplements.

Also I don’t know where you live and what your food standards are, but here in Europe you can drink raw milk quite safely and there are plenty of raw milk products like cheese. It’s literally a non issue.

areyouevenreal,

Have you actually talked to a microbiologist about this? It’s not safe at all.

E.coli might have some harmless strains, but you have no guarantee which strain is present. It’s also not the only dangerous pathogen found in milk. Did I mention raw milk is often contaminated with bacteria from cow poo?

Just because something is fine for a calf doesn’t mean it’s fine for you and vice versa.

Edit: oh yeah and I live in England. We have decent food safety standards here and that’s why raw milk isn’t sold at supermarkets.

Aux,

Raw milk is not sold at supermarkets because its shelf life is like one day. But you can buy raw milk directly from farmers or even from the Borough Market.

areyouevenreal,

A shelf life of one day? You basically just admitted it has harmful bacteria in it by saying this.

Aux,

Everything has harmful bacteria in it, so what?

areyouevenreal,

It’s already infected with the bad bacteria, and is a great growth medium for them. Also not everything you buy has bad bacteria or only has bad bacteria on the outside. Like you wouldn’t expect fresh fruit to have bacteria inside it because it’s a living thing with the ability to defend itself. Cooking food kills most bacteria too; that’s why pasteurizing things works.

Raw milk is known to be a major health risk, why would you just ignore it? Like you wouldn’t eat raw chicken so why milk?

Aux,

I eat plenty of raw foods: beef, pork, venison, eggs, shrimps, oysters, etc. Why is milk different?

areyouevenreal,

You shouldn’t be eating raw pork either. Ever heard of a tape worm?

You’re a walking case of food poisoning waiting to happen.

Aux,

Boiled and then cooled rice is a higher risk food than raw pork.

areyouevenreal,

That’s why you don’t eat rice that’s more than 1 day old.

ImFresh3x,

Where I live raw milk is highly regulated. More than pretty much any other food. It’s extremely safe. I am sure on some places it’s a risk.

And it does in fact taste much better than pasteurized milk. Pasteurized milk to me probably tasted like what canned milk would taste like to you.

ImFresh3x,

Because it tastes good. Duh

Imagine 🌈

QuazarOmega,

Get yourself a girl with piping hot tiddies, folks.

areyouevenreal,

I doubt that’s a problem with human milk. We have to pasteurize animal milk because the bacteria that is symbiotic to them is very dangerous to us.

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