Not sure how is it in other European countries but I associate those particular spices with Christmas. The phrase pumpkin spice didn’t use to be a thing here but now thanks to American influence and marketing people you can buy all sorts of pumpkin spice products here. Some even sell pumpkin latte to make it even more confusing.
Until I read these comments I thought the “white” was about snow due to my associating this with Christmas. It was very confusing and annoying cos Xmas is months away until I revisited this thread and realised.
Maybe in the Midwest, east coast or northwest US. The south and southwest: some white people there are the most thrilled about death pepper sauce, and I’ve also met Hispanic people from AZ/TX/NM who have no interest in spicy food.
What else would you use to flavor pumpkin spice flavored food other than real pumpkin spice then? It’s not like powdered cinnamon, clove, nutmeg, and ginger are hard to come by…
Lol and I am very white and very much dislike anything pumpkin flavored so I’m the opposite. Though salted and roasted pumpkin seeds are an amazing snack
Pumpkin or pumpkin spice? Or both? I've had a pumpkin pie for the first time a few years ago. Although not my favourite it's not too bad and I'm not a fan of pumpkin at all
I’m as white as lederhosen, and I don’t want anything “pumpkin flavored.” I really enjoy actual pumpkin, I eat like four of them a year, mostly in pie format. I don’t want anything that’s been food industried to taste vaguely like pumpkin though.
You might not know that because this “spice” only exists in the US and I just learned it myself, but pumpkin spice has nothing to do with pumpkin flavor. It’s called that way because it’s the mix of spices used in pumpkin pies: cinnamon, ginger, nutmeg, ginger and cloves.
I do. I think it’s quite nice and I have them somewhat regularly. They’re not overpriced where I live, they’re about the same price of a normal latte at any other cafe. So technically not overpriced, but still expensive.
Edit: my ex-partner introduced me to it and she was a typical white woman from southern US. So there’s that.
I’m in the US where most people mainly associate pumpkin with pumpkin pie. This includes the pumpkin spice which is the topic of this thread, along with plenty of cinnamon and sugar, and is usually served with whipped cream.
I am of course aware there are many other ways to prepare or eat pumpkin, but that is my main association with this food.
Huh. I agree about the debate being stupid, but judging by the responses to my (obviously flawed) study here on Lemmy it seems like there may be something to this stereotype.
I love pumpkin pie, but anything else pumpkin spice I’m pretty meh about. It’s probably the lack of actual pumpkin.
I think that the whole thing about the pumpkin spice phenomenon is that it’s intrinsically tied to autumn in the US. Pumpkin pie, Halloween with pumpkins, apples, bonfires, etc. it’s all part of the season, and pumpkin spice flavoring is just one of the ways that the season in general can be experienced.
Socially, it seems like white women, more than most other demographics in the States, are especially enthusiastic about celebrating and experiencing the various seasons (and is that really such a bad thing?), and since the autumn season has so many specific items and trends that go along with it that appeal to this demographic (picture the stereotypical white girl in the fall: PSL, fall style, at the farmers market or apple picking, family photos, etc.), it’s just the most distilled example that gets tied to a type of person.
Other people get hyped for fall too…lots of rural American men are excited to go hunting in the fall…but camo and blaze orange with an old Stanley thermos of cheap coffee in an old truck at 4am isn’t quite as marketable as the PSL.
Yeah I hear ya. I don’t wanna pooh pooh on people enjoying fall, but it seems like it’s more like a marketing thing that’s been confused with a cultural thing if that makes senses…
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