PZK,

Everything is political, not just when your views are challenged.

letsgocrazy,

Spoken like a true person who tries to shoehorn their political beliefs into every topic.

Movie based meme page?

Better talk about American politics!

salsamolle,

luckily not every instance is centered around us stuff

ProxyTheAwesome,

Where were those movies made?

soviet-hmm

ProxyTheAwesome,

Where did the funding for those movies come from? Where did that fancy military equipment come from? I wonder if the US military asked for anything in exchange for lending that out?

soviet-hmm

letsgocrazy,

New Zealand? England?

ProxyTheAwesome,

Unless you’re watching indie foreign flicks they were all produced, written and edited in Hollywood, regardless of where they were filmed

GarbageShoot,

When I go for a walk, the car-based infrastructure makes everything a nuisance until I get on a trail some distance from where I live. Turns out politics is everywhere.

uis,
@uis@lemmy.world avatar

But deciding to go for a walk is politics too

culpritus,
@culpritus@hexbear.net avatar

for all the libs scratched by this meme, here’s a good link for you to read about how memes are a highly political medium (just like propaganda posters and pamphlets used to be)

thegeekanthropologist.com/…/the-poetics-of-intern…

There’s also some good scholarly works that get into this much deeper as well.

here’s a quote since libs don’t usually read from links:

I want to begin by discussing three ways I commonly see memes used: meme as revelation, meme as critique, and meme as ideation. This is not a comprehensive typology by any means, but it is a start at understanding the ways that memes are used in social life. These different ways of using memes also allows us to understand the different media ideologies associated with them. Media ideologies are, “beliefs, attitudes, and strategies about a single medium” (Gerson 2010b, 389). These ideologies show us, “the ways the medium shapes the message,” helping us to see “the communicative possibilities and the material limitations of a specific channel” (Gershon 2010, 283).

The potentially endless media ideologies associated with memes is, I believe, a product of their perceived informality as a form of communication, seen through their association with internet culture, “low” art, and post-GenXers. As Gershon (2010) explains, “media become perceived as formal or informal just as registers are perceived as formal or informal” (290). This perception has relegated memes to what Halberstam (2011) calls “the silly archive,” comprised of texts which “might offer strange and anticapitalist logics of being and acting and knowing” (20–21). This is what makes memes so deeply political—they are able to bypass the dominant cultural logics of “being and acting and knowing” that often constrain our imaginations and tie concepts and ideas to particular mediums.

Another reason memes are political is their accessibility. Not only are they simple—a user only needs to come up with a short description to fit a meme image—they can also be easily created on a number of meme generating websites. This democratization of meme production is what allows for the “subversive and transformative engagements” I referenced earlier. The accessibility of and creative engagement with memes reveal that it is not only meme images themselves that shape their message, but also the ways in which users understand memes as a medium, and the meanings they associate with or construct through specific memes.

We might also consider the production of memes through the model of the supply chain, thinking with Anna Tsing (2009) about the salience of global capitalism. While there are obvious differences in the circulation of digital media as opposed to material commodities, meme (re)production, like supply chains, “don’t merely use preexisting diversity; they also revitalize and create niche segregation through advising economic performance” (150). Here, I want to suggest that we add “social” to “economic,” which is seen through the creation of online communities and the multilayered shaping of subjectivities in local contexts. The meme economy is intimately related to media ideology, since the “beliefs, attitudes, and strategies” regarding memes influence motivations for the (re)production and circulation of certain memes, offering yet another layer for considering the importance of memes in social life.

Asymptote,

Kind of meta how you’re cry posting about others complaining.

cyclohexane,

I don’t see any complaining. OP is ridiculing them.

culpritus,
@culpritus@hexbear.net avatar

How’s it feel to be inside this meme?

Nakoichi,
@Nakoichi@hexbear.net avatar

Kinda meta how you are outing yourself as the person this post is aimed at

wonder-who-thats-for

ProxyTheAwesome,

Do you think when someone posts a meme with a guy in it, they are that guy?

very_poggers_gay,
charonn0,

And generally, the political discussions don’t even rise to the intellectual level of shitposting.

DeathWearsANecktie,

Just reading some of the arguments between people of different political persuasions on this post would fry your brain.

Lightor,

Politics impact our lives, of course we talk about it. In the US basic human rights are being fought over. I bet if you were in danger of losing some civil rights you’d be interested in how it’s going lol.

Grayox,
@Grayox@lemmy.ml avatar

The definition of Privalage is not having to worry about politics because you are so secure in your place in our Capitalist Society Hierarchy.

Gormadt,
@Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Going for a walk?!?

That has surprisingly become political in the US

EmpathicVagrant,

Leftie propaganda from big sidewalk! They want to see your precious calories burn!!

yokhai,

I wonder if there are any conservatives who get upset about nutrition labels when they find out the food has trans fats in it.

rigatti,
@rigatti@lemmy.world avatar

The pedos are grooming our Oreos!

strangematter,

The call for walkable cities is a fatphobic dogwhistle!!!1

uis,
@uis@lemmy.world avatar

France go for a walk every year, and in Russia you can be beaten to death for jogging.

Jabbawacky,

Well, I saw [email protected] was US only. So I blocked it.

That’s pretty much the extent of my involvement in moaning/bothering about politics here.

Awoo,

So I blocked it.

gigachad-hd

Pyr_Pressure,

Who talks about politics on the internet? Round here we yell and fight about politics.

flashgnash,

No we don’t you fascist swine!

lugal, (edited )

The truth is somewhere in the middle, like always

Edit: apparently I should have put /s at the end

flashgnash,

…what?

lugal,

You made a joke, I played on it further. Should I have put “/s” at the end?

flashgnash,

I just had no idea what those words in that order even meant lol

lugal,

Maybe they have no meaning or maybe they do. Maybe my wording was poor since I’m not a native speaker.

Or, like always, maybe the truth is somewhere in between.

PolandIsAStateOfMind,
@PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml avatar

You absolutely should, since there is crapton of people out there which really prefer to throw that line completely seriously instead of moving their grey matter for a while.

uis,
@uis@lemmy.world avatar
w2tpmf,

The other 2/3 are about politics, so…

KingThrillgore,
@KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml avatar

The world has become political and its not for the better, but it is what it is. You don’t get to choose to not be involved anymore. World doesn’t work that way.

Don’t wanna play the game? Go touch grass.

MotoAsh,

Imean, it was always that way… The perception that it wasn’t is exactly why we’re having so many problems today.

The system is very much not self-correcting.

Nakoichi,
@Nakoichi@hexbear.net avatar

has become political

Always has been

ProxyTheAwesome,

Eh it wasn’t before about 100,000 BC

spiderjuzce,

I’m genuinely curious what’s the difference between talking about our lives and politics?

neptune,

You see, if you are white, straight and male, the answer is usually a big difference. For everyone else? Likely very little.

CorruptBuddha,

Singling out straight white men… so progressive!

neptune,

Yo soy

stevedidWHAT,
@stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world avatar

There was a way to word this where you wouldn’t be a hypocrite but ya kinda just face planted fam.

The whole point of being progressive is to identify things we’ve been missing and things we’ve been doing wrong and to fix them.

Not to only swing the pendulum the other way. Not cool.

spiderjuzce,

I don’t know why people are down voting you when you’re right. Hell people are mad at you just for talking about it

neptune,

I mean I was mildly flippant. But I am a straight white guy, so you know, I’m not really punching up or down here?

o_d,
@o_d@lemmygrad.ml avatar

It doesn’t matter what direction you’re punching here. You’re being called out because your analysis is wrong. Yes, politics in the west is certainly dominated by straight white males, but the important common trait that these people have is their class. Politics in most of the world is dominated by capital owners. Straight white males are afforded some concessions because it creates a divide among the working class. This does not mean that they are not oppressed due to their class character. Working class straight white males can and do suffer from some of the same oppression however, at a lower rate. This oppression is still unjustifiable.

Lightor,

I mean it does though? If my wife died because she couldn’t get healthcare she needed, I feel like that might maybe affect me.

neptune,

That’s why I wasn’t categorical. But I mean you proved my point. If your wife died she’d be the one who suffered and died. Not you.

The point is, politics being like the super bowl is a privilege for some. For others it’s life and death. It’s almost like saying “Keep politics out of my life” is a relatively lucky/conservative request or point of view.

Lightor,

Again, I would say if my wife died I would maybe suffer? Losing a partner is not just a nothing event…

But I would agree, politics are life and death for certain people, they don’t have the luxury of getting to ignore them.

neptune,

Yes obviously you’d bother suffer.

FactuallyUnscrupulou,
@FactuallyUnscrupulou@hexbear.net avatar

Talking about inconveniences and commiserating with others is just life. Acknowledging systemic issues may be the source of your misfortune is politics.

JackbyDev,
  • I had to wait aong time in traffic today.

✔️

  • Public transit would be a nice alternative.

🚨🚨🚨 POLITICS DETECTED 🚨🚨🚨

erogenouswarzone,
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  • spiderjuzce,

    Maybe I can’t differentiate because people make my life political. Good for you that’s not a problem but other people exist like me and have this issue. A lot of people seem to lack awareness of others and act like they’re in the right. It’s childish.

    I once worked for someone who thought like you. He was a real redneck. When I walked in, he looked at the hiring manager and rolled his eyes. I ended up doing the best out of anyone on my first day and it was physically intense. He apologized to me later because he gained an awareness that other people can exist differently without him being a bitch about it. You should learn from him.

    Lightor,

    When politics imprest your life on such a level that it could mean not getting the health care you need, yeah it is part of your life, there is no difference. I think people like yourself see politics like sports, just boring talk, no one cares about your team. That’s not what it is, these are major things impacting people’s lives, and not talking about them could lead to less awareness and even more rights being taken away.

    Awoo,

    You are the textbook definition of what we refer to as the “out to brunch liberal” who gets annoyed at how the poors caring about their conditions inconveniences your entertainment and treat consumption.

    The best part about this for any marxists reading is that your user history is filled with art deco posts.

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  • Awoo,

    By posting the extremely apolitical art-style that venerates capitalism lmao

    s0ykaf,
    @s0ykaf@hexbear.net avatar

    And therein lies the problem, you and a lot of people like you, genuinely can’t differentiate life and politics

    the problem is precisely that for us politics has a practical effect on our daily lives. we have to worry about it, and talk about it, because if we simply let things go we get absolutely fucked

    good for you that your current condition makes you immune to even moderate sways in the political environment. that is not the case for millions of people, even the majority of them

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  • ThereRisesARedStar,

    You’re literally buying into the idea that politics can be separated from life which is what capitalist media benefits from in a roundabout way. Capitalists don’t want us to think “everything is political” because it threatens their power.

    Humans are political animals, “my life isn’t political” is just denying yourself agency so you don’t have to worry about exercising a part of your consciousness that is healthy and normal to exercise.

    Nakoichi,
    @Nakoichi@hexbear.net avatar

    Every boss, every landlord, every school board member, every person on your HOA committee you will ever interact with is deeply involved in politics and that has a direct impact on your life, whether you realize it or not.

    isVeryLoud,

    How meta

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