authed,

wish you could install only security updates

LUHG_HANI,
@LUHG_HANI@lemmy.world avatar

Long term service branch exists on 10.

maccentric,

Only for Enterprise tho

EmperorHenry,
@EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

You can delay all other updates with the group policy editor. You can disable preview builds and you and delay quality updates by 30 days and delay feature updates by 365 days. The bugs are always worked out by then.

Holzkohlen,
@Holzkohlen@feddit.de avatar

OR they could stop shipping broken updates for their $100 ad-infested operating system. Just a a thought.

Karyoplasma,

My tinfoil hat theory is that they ship broken updates on purpose to feign how fast and hard they work on fixing them. See, customers, we really care!

authed,

thats good but Im also worried about the useless changes that they make… so after 365 days I would start getting constant useless updates anyways

EmperorHenry,
@EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Feature updates are necessary after a while. There’s SOME important stuff in there. And if you wait a whole year before installing the new one, all the bugs will be fixed by then

thepiguy,

I was afraid of exactly this happening. So I just deleted my partition when I fully committed to Linux a few years ago.

Somewhereunknown7351,
@Somewhereunknown7351@kbin.social avatar

But I can’t change the taskbar size

Pantherina,
@Pantherina@feddit.de avatar

This is actually crazy, its too big

lightnsfw,

That’s what she said

Hominine,
@Hominine@lemmy.world avatar

systemd-boot for anyone that is tired of GRUB/Windows antics.

theshatterstone54,

Yeah, I’ve been using systemd-boot for over 6 months, close to a year, and I’ve never had issues with Windows. And I’ve been dualbooting a lot. Multiple times, using different windows editions, like AtlasOS, or Windows after Winutil, and my sytem has never broken because of Windows and boatloader shenanigans. And to top it all off, in all of these instances, I had Windows installed AFTER Linux, and the only tbing I had to fix after install is to change the boot order so Systemd-boot takes priority.

Pantherina,
@Pantherina@feddit.de avatar

How does it fix that?

Hominine,
@Hominine@lemmy.world avatar

Truthfully, I don’t know what the secret sauce is. In my experience: system d boot is very simple and allows us to hook directly into the bootloader without any fuss. GRUB seems to be an operating system of its own and windows knows how to hook into it if you will.

WindowsEnjoyer,

Hello

rez_doggie,

At that point, wipe out windows, expand your partition and reinstall grub

Ozzy,

For me it was the opposite. I had Ubuntu installed and wanted to do a upgrade to the next release, took around 2 hours “settings things up” where I just said fuck it and force closed it.

KrankyKong,

My experience with big release distros was like that. I rarely had an upgrade complete without issue. Rolling release has been good to me so far. Granted, this was 10 years ago and things gave probably gotten better since.

s38b35M5,
@s38b35M5@lemmy.world avatar

Which distro with rolling release do you prefer?

KrankyKong,

I used Manjaro in 2015 for about a year before switching to Arch and sticking with that for a long time. Recently I tried EndeavorOS for a few months, then I switched to Void just to try it.

I can solidly recommend either Arch or Void.

PainInTheAES,

I like EndeavourOS (Arch based) and OpenSUSE Tumbleweed (or Gecko Linux). But if you prefer sticking with apt based distro Debian Sid is a rolling release.

InFerNo,

Check out Linux Mint Debian Edition, if it still exists. It was also rolling release.

ArcaneSlime,

Fedora is cool, I also want to try SUSE and endeavor though so I can’t speak on those yet.

nossaquesapao,

Does fedora have a rolling version?

ArcaneSlime,

docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/releases/

I think this counts but tbh I could be misunderstanding something.

nossaquesapao,

I forgot about rawhide. But it’s not really intended for the general public, similar to debian testing, isn’t it?

ArcaneSlime,

I think so, but from what I hear it is pretty stable, enough to use. I’d keep backups of important files, but I do that anyway. I use the Branched release myself, but an aquaintance of mine uses rawhide.

rambaroo,

Never had an issue with Debian upgrades

littlecolt,

Man, imagine using GRUB.

lseif,

what do u use? genuinely asking. i use systemd-boot bc its default for my distro

Hexarei,
@Hexarei@programming.dev avatar

I dunno about the guy you’re responding to, but I run rEFInd

JakoJakoJako13,
@JakoJakoJako13@lemmy.world avatar

Same but only because I dual boot Windows and was too lazy to setup grub or systemd-boot the day I installed Linux on my new setup.

littlecolt,

Systemd-boot

Pantherina,
@Pantherina@feddit.de avatar

Its poorly the defacto standard on most common distros

howrar,

What’s the problem with GRUB and will it impact someone who sees the boot menu maybe three times a year at most?

littlecolt,

Nothing is wrong with grub, I’m taking the piss by saying quippy things on a meme post.

howrar,

Ah, gotcha. You weren’t the only one to say this, so I thought there might be something more to it.

littlecolt,

I don’t think so. You just want to pick the right tool for your system. With modern uefi boot systems, systemd-boot is simpler and quicker. There are use cases for grub, such as if you have the kernal outside of an efi partition.

Systemd-boot is my personal preference, boots fast, is unintrusive, and you never have to rebuild anything to make changes.

In the end, everyone is free to use what they want. That’s the beauty of Linux.

BrianTheeBiscuiteer,

In the Windows community I’m guessing the top message would say:

When you install Linux but didn’t realize a dozen locales were preselected

Oisteink,

“I keep having packages that are not updated when I run apt update; apt upgrade - no matter how many times I type it!!1!”

0x4E4F,

Just use Windows Update Blocker 🤷.

www.sordum.org/9470/windows-update-blocker-v1-8/

smileyhead,

Just use some unknown program in binary form downloaded from random site that require adminstration access and God knows what it does, because Windows don’t have an option or config file to change simple thing👌.

kautau,

The thing that annoys me the most with this is powershell “modules.” Like the most recommended module to use powershell to update windows… just has a raw DLL in its repo

github.com/mgajda83/PSWindowsUpdate

The source code is just “run routines from this binary file, that you will never see the source code of”

Opafi,

This module contain cmdlets to manage Windows Update Client.

Sounds trustworthy to me.

https://feddit.de/pictrs/image/d6305125-2316-4b0c-a87e-b92b70a473d8.jpeg

evatronic,

You can, in Windows, boot into a no network safe mode and set various registry and group policies to stop Windows updates.

If you’re particularly frisky, there are alternatives to the WSUS, Windows Server Update Service you could deploy on your local network.

It’s a lot of work, though.

0x4E4F,

It’s a lot of work, though.

Exactly. I have tried them all before and it is a lot of work and that’s why I opted for this one click solution. Sure, it’s not open source, but I’ve been using it for years, it’s never done something malicious. I’ve also done some RCE on it, and I came to the conclusion that this thing is most probably legit and has no malicious intents.

0x4E4F,

Have been using it for a while, does nothing malicios, plus I’ve done some RCE on it, as far as I’m aware, there is no malicious code in it.

And I would love to know how I can stop automatic updates in Windows with a config file… cuz… you know, Windows never uses the registry for those kinds of things.

smileyhead,

As far as you are aware. Only author knows what code is in it.

It’s basically like giving computer to a random guy on the street for a day as he promise to disable Windows update for you. Maybe he do it, maybe not, for you it worked, would it work for me? Will there be anything additional in the background running after, I don’t know.

0x4E4F,

That is true, yes, I do agree.

But, on the other hand Windows is not open source as well and I have to use it for work or an oddball proogram here and there that just doesn’t run on Wine.

Hell, people also use a lot of closed source code in their Linux installs as well. Let’s strat with drivers and firmware binary blobs, printer drivers (binary blobs as well, depends on manufacturer) and end with NLE software like DaVinci Resolve… we use binary blobs all the time, including our phones, and even though none of us asked for that, but instead was shoved down our throat in order to be able to live in a modern society, no one seems to complain about that… but, when a random stranger suggest using something, oh no, that thing most definitely is something malicious 😒.

Run it in a sandbox for a while, see if it calls home. If it does try to call, block it with a firewall, is that so hard 😒… though I’ve never seen it even try to call home or do something malicious, and as I said, I’ve been using it for years. Also, people use a lot of their products, I have yet to see one complaint regarding any of their products doing something malcious.

18+ B97,
@B97@mastodon.social avatar

@0x4E4F @smileyhead
Its hard to find a driver that does not go into a distro without the source

0x4E4F,

Really? What are the distro’s firmware files then? firmware-intel, firmware-amd, firmware-qualcom… what are those?

aniki,

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  • 0x4E4F,

    There is nothing better out there, trust me, I’ve searched. I would love to use something open source, but short of me writing it myself, there is no better solution at the moment… well, at least not for my needs.

    AlternateMrPapaya,

    Nah. WuMgr is what you want.

    0x4E4F,

    Yeah… this doesn’t stop automatic updates… or at least it wasn’t mentioned in the description.

    Pantherina,
    @Pantherina@feddit.de avatar

    ChrisTitus Winutil setting updates to “security only” is a solution. This is dangerous, even more as Windows is a malware target

    0x4E4F,

    Did you have windows updates enabled by default (automatic) in versions prior to Win10?

    And you get security only with LTSC. Plus, it has no apps, so it’s a double win.

    diemartin,

    I have a laptop still with Windows 10. I got it from my late sister about 4 years ago, booted it up, went and installed Ubuntu (18.04 at the time), and never touched Windows again.

    I later read somewhere that W10 was forcibly upgrading itself to W11, so I’m afraid to even boot into it. Should probably take some time to copy everything important over and finally nuke it.

    For reference, I’ve been using Linux since around 2012.

    PainInTheAES,

    If it isn’t encrypted you should be able to mount the Windows partition from Ubuntu

    diemartin,

    Oh, it isn’t encrypted. I’ve mounted the partition before. I just didn’t find the time (read: I was lazy :P).

    PainInTheAES,

    Haha, fair enough, I feel that. I’ve been procrastinating on my home lab maintenance.

    ArcaneSlime,

    This little trick bypasses windows passwords btw, booted puppy on my disused win10 machine a while back and mounted my drive without needing my “unlock windows” pin. Used it to rescue files because that win10 install won’t pass that pin screen anymore, just input the pin and then black screen forever like it can’t load.

    InFerNo,

    It doesn’t forcibly update, but it asks in a fullscreen window that looks as if the update started. Just click no thanks/cancel and it will continue to show the desktop. The window returns sometimes, but not always.

    diemartin,

    Good to know, thanks.

    Still, I won’t touch Windows if I can help it.

    navitux,
    @navitux@lemmy.world avatar

    Oh man, I KNOW

    cupcakezealot,
    @cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    this one i don’t understand im in windows insider beta so i get a lot of frequent updates but i never notice them because windows has gotten good at only doing them when im not on the computer. so ill wake up and they’re already completed

    s38b35M5,
    @s38b35M5@lemmy.world avatar

    Your experience is vastly different from mine.

    My GF had a Windows laptop until this week and her last straw was three reboots in a row, each with over an hour of waiting for updates on shutdown and startup. She never asked for the updates, and wasn’t asked ifbahe wanted to perform them.

    Now her password is required for any updates, and she controls her computer,as it should be.

    Pantherina,
    @Pantherina@feddit.de avatar

    Lol is your OS always on?

    howrar,

    Unfortunately, windows likes to wake your computer from sleep to update and reboot without your permission. All unsaved work be damned.

    moonburster,

    After buying a steam deck and seeing how good everything worked I just yeeted my entire bootdrive. Never looked back ever again (Then again I still own a surfacebook so it’s not fully commiting)

    soundingcock,
    Denvil,

    Bot spamming this link, does have gore, so click at your own risk

    MentalEdge,
    @MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

    offensive spam account, please ban forever

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