What are some frugal (but not penny-wise/pound-foolish) things you've picked up re: cars?

Do you have any genuine tricks for keeping/maintaining a car that are frugal?

Could be anything from getting a deal on a car wash, or keeping the interior nice, or keeping the engine or tires or anything really in good order.

Also, are there any things you used to be able to do frugally with your car which has changed to be more expensive–maybe due to auto manufacturers changing how cars are designed?

(I’m asking this so if something used to be frugal but isn’t now, people speak up about it.)

MajorHavoc, (edited )

It used to be economical to do my own brake pad changes, but since about 2015 getting the lines bled correctly after (on an American car) requires a special computer that isn’t available to the public.

Let’s all support better “right to repair” laws.

Edit: Don’t let my comment keep you from doing your own brake pads. As pointed out - a brake line bleed isn’t typically needed when just doing brake pads.

GibSteamCodes,

No need to bleed anything when changing pads and discs.

MajorHavoc,

True… If nothing else is wrong.

I have driven some truly shitty old cars, so I tend to forget that, since I’ve needed a brake line bleed as often as not.

guyrocket,
@guyrocket@kbin.social avatar

I have a K&N air filter. Much cheaper than re-buying paper air filters.

I also do my own oil changes. This is a HUGE savings and I use better oil/filter than most shops ever would (Mobil 1).

BadEngineering,

In terms of performance, a K&N is the way to go, but if you're looking for reliability, the regular old paper filters are better for your engine. They're a much finer filter medium and catch a lot more dirt than a K&N will. Also the price difference is negligible, a paper filter is usually around 15-20, while a K&N is closer to $50 or $60 plus the future $30 or so for a recharge kit to clean and re-oil it.

When it comes to oil changes however you've definitely got the right idea, cheaper with better oil and better filters. Also I do know that K&N uses a finer mesh in their oil filters than most compettitiors, so its worth it there.

antlion,
@antlion@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Never drive in a hurry. Seriously what’s the rush? Don’t ever crash and you’ll save a ton of money.

hrimfaxi_work,
@hrimfaxi_work@midwest.social avatar

I’ve bought hail vehicles exclusively for about 15 years. The savings aren’t what they used to be in the current used car market, but you can still save a solid 20% on the price of the car.

I’ve been able to own lower mile/better quality/higher trim cars that I otherwise wouldn’t have been able to afford by doing this.

BrownKong,

What’s a hail vehicle?

snooggums,
@snooggums@kbin.social avatar

A vehicles with damage Fram hail, usually supweficial dents in the topside.

Nougat,

Hail is not cheap to fix. We got relatively minor hail damage on one of our cars this year, the bill was over $8000. That was all just dents - no glass, no trim, no lights, no mirrors. I bet hail cars with no other problems get totalled all the time.

cosmicrookie,
@cosmicrookie@lemmy.world avatar

It’s often a scam though. When the insurance pays, the solution is always very expensive. if you have to pay out of your own pocket, many mechanics will be able to find cheaper (but not always as good) alternatives.

I witnessed a dent repair that would cost 20 times more at through the insurance than if the local mechanic had his dent expert come in and fix it.

hrimfaxi_work,
@hrimfaxi_work@midwest.social avatar

A hail damaged car that was totaled out by the previous owner’s insurance, making it technically a salvage title vehicle.

Late model vehicles tend to be readily totaled out since body work is so expensive. Insurance companies don’t want to dump >30% value of the car into repairing cosmetic damage, put it back on the road, and then risk having to throw more money at the same vehicle again if another incident happens. They’d rather cut their losses, replace the car totally for their client, and then get what they can out of the damaged car at auction.

In mid-summer, after thunderstorm season, you can even get totaled dealership cars with like 70 miles on them. Mechanically pristine, but cosmetically banged to hell.

Back in the day, you could get them at nearly half their sticker price. Nowadays, it’s not that cheap, but they’re still a great deal and I swear by them.

bestusername,
@bestusername@aussie.zone avatar

Maintenance is critical for a long and drama free life for a vehicle.

greenteadrinker,

Stay on top of changing your fluids. Oil changes are a lot cheaper than a new engine (plus labor) or any other big component of your car, like transmission or radiator. Change your engine oil (about every 5K miles), transmission fluid, engine coolant, brake fluid (every 3-6 years), diff fluid (if you have a differential), transfer case fluid (if you have a transfer case), and power steering fluid (if it’s hydraulic based)

If you live in a salty area (i.e. a place that snows a lot), learn how to apply Fluid Film or any oil-based thin film for rust prevention under your car. It’ll keep the car going for a lot longer and fluid film is a lot cheaper than a new sub frame or structural component of your car

Service manuals from the manufacturers are available for subscription, but if you know where to find them, I’d be curious to see, because my search engine skills have gotten worse as time has progressed. I think Toyota and Honda sells their subscription for 2 days of access for $20 and you should be able to download the relevant PDFs you want

As for appearances for you car, don’t eat or really keep anything in your car, unless it is for the car and its emergency kit. So I try to take everything out of the car with me if my car doesn’t need it like clothes, groceries, or anything like that. This makes car break-ins less likely to occur, and if it does, it’s more of a bad day or two (depending on your skillset/money you have) instead of a gut-wrenching moment when you realize they stole a sentimental valuable. Don’t park under trees to avoid leaves or tree sap. Neither under power lines because of bird poo

Remember that cars are depreciating tools to get you from point A to point B. The most important part of it is that it’s mechanically sound and the safety features for it work. The next part is that it blows cold AC and hot air for heat. Anything beyond that is a bonus

saltesc,

To be honest, in most cars filter and fluid changing—especially oil—yourself is super easy and super quick.

Seriously. If you’re reading this and don’t do it yourself…

Tools needed: One spanner for one bolt. Maybe two if your oil filter has a lid. Oil pan or plastic bowl or even some icecream tubs to catch oil. Everything else is hands.

  1. Unscrew oil plug with spanner, it drains out into pan.
  2. While that’s happening unclip airbox, plonk in new filter, clip back up.
  3. Go inside, unclip cabin filter, slot new one in, clip back up.
  4. Oil should be mostly drained now, grab the oil filter and screw that off. Screw new one on.
  5. Oil should be done now, so screw oil plug back in and pour new oil in.

There. In 10-15 mins you just did a minor service for a few bucks. While there, or if you’re done and bored waiting for the oil to finish draining into the pan, may as well top off coolant, washer fluid, powersteering fluid, and brake fluid. They’re all just lids you unscrew and pour to a line.

While other fluids like transmission and differential are also easy, I can understand if that’s going into intimidating territory for some as they’re usually under the car and more awkward than unscrewing the oil plug. Fortunately, these don’t need to be done anywhere near as regularly. But look into those on YT too and you may be surprised just how easy they are.

You will save a lot of money and also guarantee things were actually done 👍

GoofSchmoofer,
@GoofSchmoofer@lemmy.world avatar

Serious question: Where do you dispose of the used oil?

saltesc,

Once you’ve poured in the new oil, pour the old oil into the empty container, or an extra one you’ve bought just for old oil. Your local waste station/refuse tip will take it, some mechanic shops do too. There’s a small fee on weight as they will process contaminants out and what’s left is recycled for plenty of stuff.

I usually unload once a year or so when I’ve got 2-3 containers piling up. It’s as simple as pouring it out into their big tanks and recycling the containers there or taking them home to use again.

BadEngineering,

If you're in the US most auto parts stores will take it for free, I know for sure that Autozone and Advance Auto do.

blinks6517,

You’ve got to get the oil changed. Might not feel frugal, but guaranteed it leads to problems down the road.

Anymore, it’s just not hardly worth changing your own oil. Avoid thinking that’s frugal unless you’ve got all the equipment.

IonAddis,
@IonAddis@lemmy.world avatar

Is there an advantage/disadvantage going to a chain oil change place vs. a dealer or other mechanic?

Or basically it’s just easier now to go to to anyone who has the right tools and the exact place doesn’t matter?

ShunkW,

Don’t go to a dealer. It will be more expensive. That being said, you don’t really need many tools to do an oil change except a ratchet - which most people already have if they’re handy at all, and an oil filter wrench - I got mine for like $5 at an auto parts store. Wait for a sale on a bulk amount of oil that fits your car and just keep it in the garage or elsewhere.

I’m not super handy, but I’ve generally been able to save $10-$20 on each change over the years when I still drove. Plus the time component once you get the hang of it. I could change mine in about 20 minutes in my driveway.

AA5B,

Yeah I don’t know about this one. I used to change my own oil also but it got harder and harder to find supplies got less than the gist of having someone do it. I just don’t find it worth the time anymore.

For example, I typically get the cabin or air filter changed for exactly what it would cost me to buy the filter. Why waste my time for nothing?

I stopped changing my own filters when I not only couldn’t save money, but my Civic air filters were only available from a Honda dealer. No saving money, just extra hassle

ShunkW,

That last point is interesting. I’ve never had an issue getting filters for my old accord. What year civic did you have the issue on? My cabin filters on that car were about 1/3 the cost to get it replaced unless it was bundled into other maintenance. Even then I still saved some money. Maybe it’s an issue of where we’re both located or something? I’m not sure.

AA5B,

It was a 2006 Civic, and the filters were not available for the first five years or do. They finally started appearing in auto parts stores a few years before I got rid of it, but by then it was too late

My Civic was also a bit of a lemon that I had to get rid of after only 10 years. The paint was peeling off and there were electrical problems, that would cost more to fix than the car was worth

ShunkW,

Gotcha. I had a '13 Accord that I bought on a lease return. Bummer you got a lemon. Pretty unusual for a Honda in my experience.

Pika,

Actually seeing the same thing with oil as well, I used to always change my oil for savings under this same ideology, then I started comparing the cost vs having it done at a auto place, outside of dealership level I’m paying just about the same amount AND having to do the work/effort to change it and get the oil disposed of. It just isn’t worth the hassle it seems anymore

DSkou7,

You can do your own oil changes if you’ve got the time and tools. If not that, I’d find a local mechanic that you trust and get all your work done there.

Chain quick oil places usually get things right. But they don’t have the tools or skills to fix things if they mess something up. They also tend to employ bottom of the barrel people who tend to not care about their work.

nbailey,
@nbailey@lemmy.ca avatar

Dashcam. For $80 you can fight back against your insurance company when they try to screw you out of thousands!

IonAddis,
@IonAddis@lemmy.world avatar

Since this is “frugal”, my brain immediately went, “I wonder how much a used one is?”

And for some reason the idea was unsavory, as if a used dash cam might be dirty or something. But I can’t imagine it’d be different than any other sort of used electronics.

There’s probably a good ghost or horror story in the thought though, playing on the idea of buying up used dash cams and seeing what horrible images are left behind on them…

th3dogcow,
@th3dogcow@lemmy.world avatar

Dash cams are often exposed to extreme heat due to their placement. I wouldn’t trust a used one not to fail due to this. Hell, I’ve had brand new ones fail after about six years because of heat damage. My car navigation is suffering the same fate. It sucks when you don’t have covered parking.

Showroom7561,

Dash cams are often exposed to extreme heat due to their placement.

To this point, anyone considering a dashcam should get one with a super capacitor and NOT an internal battery. This is especially true if you live in an area that gets extreme cold or heat throughout the year.

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