The new federal dental insurance plan will be phased in gradually over 2024, with the first claims likely to be processed in May, government officials said ahead of a formal announcement scheduled for Monday morning.
Dental care needs to be free and universal. Need a filling? No charge. Make $370M a year and need a filling? Still no charge.
Dental care, pharmacare, and eye care (at least!) are health care, period - and have to be available to all citizens who need them. Full stop.
Any and every system that charges the consumer for basic health care is predatory and discriminatory; and needs to be destroyed. Not just dismantled, but destroyed.
starting with qualifying seniors over the age of 87
Eligibility will gradually expand over the course of the year to include all qualifying seniors over the age of 65 by May 2024, then children under the age of 18 and people with disabilities by June.
Wow, talk about a big “fuck you” to the taxpayers funding this insurance.
What about working folks who can’t afford dental care?
No, don’t get me wrong. Absolutely start with seniors, young kids, and the disabled.
But don’t forget the rest of us! We’re the backbone of society funding these programs and helping the economy to hum along. Not including taxpayers between 18 and 65 is a massive slap in the face. Discrimination by definition.
Maybe you have access to some privileged information, or by “the plans” you mean this one piece of legislation specifically.
But I’m pretty sure the forces behind this movement have “the plan” of expanding this to universal access. I wouldn’t expect a single piece of legislation to necessarily include the whole ten-year rollout of the program, but start with just one segment.
Gotta start somewhere. Once the program exists, expanding it is much easier. Look at Obamacare. They fought tooth and nail against it, but once it’s in the Republicans tried as hard as they could to repeal it and it just never worked.
It’s hard to take away entitlements once they exist, so the only future is really expanding it. Vision, dental and drug coverage are all on that path, it’s just a matter of time.
It’s hard to take away entitlements once they exist, so the only future is really expanding it.
As an Ontarian lol. We used to have provincial eye care coverage. That’s been gone for decades now. Government can and will strip services as they see fit just need assholes in charge.
Very happy it passed but 90k limit on household income seems rather low. I guess this is a much broader discussion but shouldnt it be based on average household income rather than cumulative since that scales with number of people where as a hard 90k number doesnt.
It might feel a little low (especially if you live in Vancouver/Toronto) but it covers some 9 million of us.
I imagine they’ll keep revisiting the number or index it to inflation. But really, these programs are designed to help the most needy and at 90k it is already one of our largest social programs.
A not insignificant number of people earning more than $90k have at least some dental benefits through their employers. Covering the most needy first is the best way to implement this program.
which strategy overcomes giving people healthcare that actually covers their health?
honest query, not sure how to read this response, and actually jealous because I’m an american (merikafuckyeah no healthcare and bang bang vroom vroom war war) who pays out the nose for dental and my kids’ braces are gonna cost bank even with ‘good coverage’. :(
Unfortunately much like America we have a system that punishes split votes with this is mind the question becomes less who do you want and more who do you really not want?
The strategy that avoids the entire system being dismantled. Imagine if there were five congressional representatives from a new Social Democracy Party. Because those five representatives are the deciding vote if it goes along party lines, they can apply pressure on the Democrats to pass healthcare reform. Hooray, everyone loves the Social Democracy Party.
They might take a few more seats from the Democrats’ safe districts in the next election. But in a contentious district where the Republican candidate has a good chance of winning, if half the people who voted Democrat vote Social instead, the vote gets split and the Republican gets in. So many of those people, who want to vote Social, will realize that if they do, then healthcare gets completely gutted. So they hold their nose and vote for the Democrat.
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