Anyone else feel that Lemmy just *isn't* addictive?

Or at least less so than Reddit. It’s good, but, I can’t put my finger on it. Even when the content is good, the servers are up, and I’m getting notifications responding to comments, it’s never come to me doomscrolling for hours.

Edit: Guys, guys, I’m not trying to say Lemmy should be addictive or Reddit is better because it is. The opposite. I thought being addicted to something was always a bad thing? I was just curious as that I rarely ever see the content droughts people talk about, so I can scroll for as long as I want to with no interruptions, but unlike with Reddit, I don’t, and I would want to know a reason why. Is it psychological? Something behind the scenes? The type of people here?

13esq,

Be patient.

Lemmy is still establishing itself as the goto replacement for Reddit. New communities are popping up all the time and more users will come.

Morhamms357,

I’m excited for it! I’m personally trying to build some of the really niche communities that were big before, like the tiny EarthBound one.

Thing is, though, is the site really growing? After most have just put up with Reddit’s bullshit, I can’t really find recent statistics of Lemmy’s active user base. And the few results I could find just show it’s being stagnant, or even shrinking. I could be wrong, though, if it is growing, even better!

MentalEdge,
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

fedidb.org is good.

We’re still in the downturn from users who tried Lemmy, and then stopped using it. They are now dropping off the active usercount, causing it to go down.

Total usercount is still increasing, meaning new users are still finding their way here.

Morhamms357,

That’s actually a much more likely situation, sinc all of these sites use the monthly active users of it’s main metric, and it’s been 2 months since Reddit shot itself in the foot.

Honestly, I was so close to not using Lemmy at all. It looked so alien to me, like is this really the next most popular community website to Reddit? But no matter how clunky and unintuitive it was, I was determined to make it work. After some good third party apps, I’m more than satisfied.

However, can’t be said for everyone. It’s clear most people made an account, had no idea what an “instance” was, and then just gave up. Lemmy should invest in making their main website easy to learn and get the hang of, and try to become more popular, accessible, and branch out. Some might say how small it is gives it charm, but undeniably more people (maybe not on one instance) is better.

MentalEdge,
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

What this first wave has done is moved over a lot of early adopters, those types of people overlap with innovators.

Lemmy improved massively during the wave, and we are now getting great apps.

I for one will push for making signing up for an account in Thunder possible, so we can build better UX around joining Lemmy.

Lemmy itself has also seen a big jump in quality. There is now Photon, an alternative frontend that’s a lot slicker, and can be installed by instances to replace the current webUI.

The next time something triggers people to go look for something else, Lemmy will be looking a lot more ready.

Blaze,
@Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Have a look at !trendingcommunities

Communities are growing

ribboo,

Growing is not linear, particular not when competing with a larger alternative.

What basically needs to happen is that Reddit needs to fuck up a couple of more times. Some smaller stuff will net some users, largest stuff, many. After a while critical mass has been reached and it’ll be easier to grown naturally.

Well, that’s at least what I think needs to happen. I’m fully confident Reddit will fuck up as well. Though, this is a marathon, not a sprint.

Tolookah,

It’s a mix of not neverending content (yet) and it’s not designed to keep you in. I’m sure Reddit has had people who only work on increasing the doom scrolling.

alex,

It’s not supposed to be. It doesn’t jam endless recommendations in your feed once you’ve gotten at the end of the new, fresh content. I feel like it’s a feature, not a bug, to have platforms that don’t optimise for time spent on them, because they don’t need our attention to show us ads.

Lemmylefty,
@Lemmylefty@lemmy.world avatar

Exactly. Places/communities like Lemmy can and should serve different functions for different people - newsfeed, forum, meme collection/dumping ground - but the fine line between value and addiction gets obliterated by moneyed interests.

Dee,
@Dee@lemmings.world avatar

I’m so happy this is the top comment when I came in here. We’re not centralized social media that requires constant content generation to acquire more views and we shouldn’t try to treat it as such. Donate to your instances when you can, contribute to communities you care about with posts/comments, and then when you reach the end of your feed log off. How forums are supposed to be imo.

Poayjay,

I never realized all this but it’s so true. I browse and comment until I’m caught up, then log off.

Wow

wintermute_oregon,

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    Daft_ish,

    Fiscally right?? Does that mean you write a check to Jeff Bezos every month?

    wintermute_oregon,

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    Daft_ish, (edited )

    I just don’t get this “fiscally conservative” bullshit. You want to cut taxes on the rich as infrastructure continues to crumble? You want to hide your money in offshore bank accounts? You want to implement legislation that funnels unregulated money into corporate bank accounts then forgive all the debt? You want to use campaign finance to accept bribes then have the courts make it legal?

    Edit: Maybe it’s you want to raise the national debt to record numbers then years later pretend all the sudden to be “worried about the deficit” and refuse to raise the debt ceiling and threaten to shut down the government.

    Vulnicura,

    Honestly an optional recommendation feature would be cool.

    alex,

    Yeah, I’d like it too, but I suppose it’s a lot of work.

    SlopppyEngineer,

    There is no karma system so no people shitposting and reposting as much to pump up their score. Without this kind of gamification there is less noise.

    dingus,
    @dingus@lemmy.ml avatar

    Basically, no dark patterns built to keep you scrolling.

    turtlepower,

    So then what are the up/down votes for?

    limerod,

    Individual post/comment votes. They would only get used for post/comment sorting at best. Nothing more.

    turtlepower,

    Cool, thanks!

    Morhamms357,

    The only person here answering the question lol

    Teknikal,

    I like it but yeah there’s a lot less users so less content. Hopefully it keeps growing and the communities get more active.

    TheButtonJustSpins,

    Do any apps provide native notifications yet? I’d love to get alerts in my notifications bar rather than having to open the app and go through each account.

    const_void,

    Yes, Infinity does.

    giant_smeeg,

    Agree’d, people aren’t contributing enough so it seems dead after a 30min check per day (might not be a bad thing).

    If lemmy is to thrive and survive, post, comment and start discussions. That’s what is addictive and provides value.

    MentalEdge,
    @MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

    Thunder’s latest update added a dismiss read posts feature, it lets you remove read posts on demand as you scroll, “refreshing” the feed with content you haven’t seen, but without actually refreshing the page.

    Lets you scroll a lot deeper into the feed without it feeling “dead” or “stale”.

    Blaze,
    @Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    Good to know!

    AttackBunny,

    There are algorithms working in the background on Reddit to keep you there. Same with pretty much all “social media”. They aren’t on Lemmy. The point of Reddit is to keep you there, and shove as many ads down your throat as possible. Ads don’t exist here, and no one (as far as i can tell) is making money from you being here.

    Yeah, there is less content, but that’s not really the biggest reason.

    giant_smeeg,

    There are algorithms working in the background on Reddit to keep you there. Same with pretty much all “social media”. They aren’t on Lemmy. The point of Reddit is to keep you there, and shove as many ads down your throat as possible. Ads don’t exist here, and no one (as far as i can tell) is making money from you being here.

    I agree with what you’re saying about the algorithms sucking you in, but disagree that’s the biggest reason. Lemmy just doesn’t have a lot of content, browse HOT or go through your subscriptions and you’re done pretty quick.

    Aimhere,

    If you run out of items to view on Lemmy, you can always go out and, like, engage with family, or hobbies, or grass-touching…

    giant_smeeg,

    Na, you’re being silly now.

    maegul,
    @maegul@lemmy.ml avatar

    post, comment and start discussions. That’s what is addictive and provides value.

    Just want to +1 this. You’d be surprised how “addictive” it can be to get active. And probably more valuable to you too.

    giant_smeeg,

    Massively. If you can contribute, ask and learn on a discussion then you get WAY more out of it.

    Lemmy is perfect for that atm, reddit you’d get immediately drowned out or some dickhead just dismissing your point and that’s it, done.

    TrustingZebra,

    Despite being a smaller community, I find I’ve been getting significantly more replies on Lemmy. Maybe it’s easier to get noticed.

    Klear,

    No, I will not discuss this with you, nor will I write a comment.

    empireOfLove,
    @empireOfLove@lemmy.one avatar

    Reddit’s continuous contributions were more shitposts and inside jokes though, so the little I do read here feels a lot more personal and more in depth. It’s pretty nice.

    I needed excuses to get the hell off my phone more anyway.

    Carnelian,

    I browse about 5 hours a day according to my phone lol

    original_reader,

    Not sure. Sort by “All” and “New” and there’s a lot.

    Not sure how this statement will age, but I feel Lemmy is here to stay. At least for now. Means it will likely grow over time.

    Lemmylaugh,

    We just need to get those mods from ask historians here and the millions will come I’m sure

    curiousmonkey,

    Yes, i feel the same and I love it.

    Mugmoor,
    @Mugmoor@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    You say this like it’s a bad thing.

    Morhamms357,

    Precisely the opposite. It’s great! Especially since I rarely stop due to a lack of content, since I’m always on New (but sometimes I’m prevented from seeing because the server’s down).

    It was actually because there’s been so much content, yet I still spend a relatively healthy amount of time on the site. Why? On the surface, it’s the same thing, but in practice, it’s not.

    Semi-Hemi-Demigod,
    @Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social avatar

    I find it just addictive enough. There are definitely lulls in activity, but they're short-lived and I have things I should be doing besides shitposting so it's actually helped me.

    The quality, however, is much higher. This can be very subjective, but I do have some real world evidence. The number of times I'd show someone a meme and have them say "Please send that to me" has definitely gone up since I switched to the fediverse.

    radix,
    @radix@lemm.ee avatar

    That’s really sweet.

    theodewere,
    @theodewere@kbin.social avatar

    awww, you're sweet

    radix,
    @radix@lemm.ee avatar

    :O

    Lt_Worf,

    It’s really good in small doses, like early Reddit used to be. You can quickly exhaust the best posts of the morning/afternoon/evening before you’re basically browsing by “new”.

    It reminds me of the times when reddit would get notably slower and weirder during certain times of the day. Before it became an endless 24/7 stream of content.

    theodewere,
    @theodewere@kbin.social avatar

    this is some really good awareness, i think.. and that other thing is getting worser and worser for some reason..

    schwim,
    @schwim@lemmy.world avatar

    Perhaps you require more ragebait?

    If so, you’re stupid, your thought is stupid and your choice in underwear is stupid.

    WookieMunster,

    What a sad little man

    hydro033,

    whoosh

    fred-kowalski,

    Even when someone is really raging in comments, I purposely frame it as sarcasm so I don’t engage. But here I am, engaging. Yep, just like Reddit for me.

    To serve the thread topic, I have about an hour a day free for some social media, regardless of the platform mix. Gave up Reddit as it got bumped.

    schwim,
    @schwim@reddthat.com avatar

    I’m enraged.

    ryan,

    Excuse you. I may be stupid, but my underwear is soft and comfortable.

    DigitalTraveler42,

    Lemmy is down too often to be addictive

    loobkoob,
    @loobkoob@kbin.social avatar

    lemmy.world, maybe, but other instances have far better uptime! I'm on kbin and it's been weeks since I noticed any downtime.

    OsrsNeedsF2P,

    Nah mate I’m refreshing the Top Hour sort every 30 minutes

    MedicPigBabySaver,
    @MedicPigBabySaver@voxpop.social avatar

    Just wait. I’ll check with you and find out if you’re still “sober” in '25

    !Remindme 2 years… (I think they have something like that. Can’t remember the exact tag).

    can,

    @remindme 2 years

    MedicPigBabySaver,
    @MedicPigBabySaver@voxpop.social avatar

    Ty

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