The transphobia stops now

This community is housed on an instance run by two trans women, focused on the needs of the queer and gender diverse community.

We allowed 196 here because we were promised the community is queer and trans inclusive.

If you’re here it’s because you’re aggressively supportive of trans folk. Not middle of the ground, not “just asking questions”.

If your response to that is, “yes, but…” then this isn’t the instance for you, and by extension, this isn’t the community for you.

tl;dr - Unambiguous support and inclusion, or fuck off somewhere else.

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Edit - I changed the phrase "aggressive support to “unambiguous support”, as there was some confusion over the intent behind my previous phrasing.

Bloodwoodsrisen,
@Bloodwoodsrisen@lemmy.tf avatar

As an Asexual Gender-Fluid person with trans friends, I fully support this

mbryson,
@mbryson@lemmy.ca avatar

Based.

Thank you for creating a safe space. I’m an ally to the LGBTQ+ community and am happy there’s a space not for “everyone”, but for those willing to accept trans folk and silence those against them (while having funny posts on it as well).

EremesZorn,

I’m here because 196 shows up on my feed and I really enjoy the memes.
I also have absolutely no problem with trans individuals or really any lifestyle anyone wants to live that isn’t hurting anyone else.
That said, was there an incident recently on here that spurred the creation of this post? Did something go down?
Edit: Changed “bothering” to “hurting” because I frankly don’t give a fuck about the feelings of the type of people that are “bothered” by LGBT+.

Boinketh,

I’m also here for the dank memes. IIRC there was a post from a mod telling people to stop reporting a message that IMO seemed transphobic, but I didn’t see the context despite searching for it.

LeylaaLovee,

Someone asked if a straight guy would fuck a trans man, straight guy responded by saying he’d be down to fuck a trans man if they hadn’t transitioned yet. In a later comment he said he was attracted to post op trans women and pre op trans men. It wasn’t aggressive transphobia, but grouping trans people by their genitals in a space like this isn’t going to be appreciated.

The real problem came with the thread the mod posted. If I didn’t know better, I’d assume it was a baitpost. Mod made the post then quickly disappeared after people in the new thread started their “I’m an ally, BUT…” comments. Original commenter said he can’t be friends with trans women because they all have chips on their shoulders. Someone said trans people are the Karens of the LGBT community and weren’t wanted. Just a lot of shit that shouldn’t be on an instance that is literally a trans safe space.

Boinketh,

Thanks for the explanation. He’s a “straight” man and he’d fuck a trans man? Idk, sounds pretty gay to me.

Sekoia,

It’s specifically before transition. Honestly to me the original comment is pretty okay, a bit easy to misunderstand. From what I got it was “yeah since I like women, and a trans man before transitioning looks like a woman, I’d be attracted to them. However the parts attractive to me are dysphoric for them which probably causes conflict” which seems like somebody thinking aloud about something they haven’t put a lot of thought into ever.

Anyway the mod’s post was bad, the comments were awful, bloody mess.

Boinketh,

Maybe it’s just me, but I’d have a hard time being with someone who was mentally a man, even if he was physically female.

Sekoia,

Yeah imo it’d be weird. Like in a theoretical sense you could be attracted to them but a relationship I don’t think would work (for a straight dude which I am not so take that with a grain of salt)

LeylaaLovee,

Someone made a comment saying that they’d be down to fuck a trans man if they hadn’t transitioned yet because he likes women. It was controversial, but then one of the mods here decided to post a screenshot of that comment on the main, and the people in the comments were fucking horrendous. It’s all “I’m an ally, but…” statements. Some of them were fine, but even the best ones were just people taking the opportunity to say that they don’t wanna fuck trans people. And that’s fine, you don’t have to be attracted to trans people at all, but a trans safe space isn’t the spot for that discussion at all.

The mod shouldn’t have posted what’s essentially bait, nor should they have not actually moderated the thread after posting the bait. I’m pretty sure the instance admin ended up having to handle it. The guy who made the original comment is saying it was him, but that’s not really what matters. This controversy was more about properly moderating the space than anything.

samus12345,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

Random person: exists

Assholes: Everyone needs to know whether I would fuck this person or not!

EremesZorn,

Gotcha. Thanks for taking the time to reply.

QualisArtifexPereo,

Joining most of the people here in saying, “Huh, what community?” I’m not against trans people, and I despise bigots, but I’m not a part of your community either.

To be honest I don’t care to be part of any federated community that defines itself by what it won’t tolerate, grow up and use the block feature.

simplify,

I see it as an effort to establish a mission statement and that they are only interested in conversations that further that mission. I don’t see a problem and I also agree with you that there is no community for you there, but I don’t see how maturity plays a part.

Milk_SDF_Possum,
@Milk_SDF_Possum@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Based and lainpilled.

croix,

Fucking THIS.

thereticent,

I’m not part of that community either. I’m truly amazed at the number of indignant comments like yours, which demonstrate that you took the post as addressed to you. It obviously wasn’t. It was explicitly addressed to posters on 196. I’d recommend being less self-centered, but if you disagree, I’m sure that community would be happy to see you go.

Doug,

grow up and use the block feature.

I’m really sick of this talking point. If history hasn’t demonstrated to you that ignoring a problem doesn’t resolve the problem then you take ought to go back and read some more.

If you can’t stand to be bothered by others trying to carve out consideration for your fellow humans then I’m glad this may be our only interaction.

hughperman,

Community is the term for a “sub” on Lemmy.

Arystique,
@Arystique@beehaw.org avatar

Heck yeah! Fuck Transphobia!

Holzkohlen,
@Holzkohlen@feddit.de avatar

Damn straight. Us queers need to stand together and there can be no god damn LGBTQ+ without the flippin T.

Doug,

Us queers need to stand together

I’m not trying to co-opt anything. Far from. I just want to remind everyone that you don’t need to know your place in the rainbow to want to see its beauty.

Catasaur,
@Catasaur@lemmy.catasaur.xyz avatar

I loved the original 196 and how supportive it was for LGBTQ+ people. Also because it was hilarious. Keep rockin

UmbrellAssassin,

Just read the post that started this all. I thought that hating a person for having a sexual preference that doesn’t agree with you, it’s exactly what the queer community was fighting against. Well you do you. Plus demanding aggressive support only is in really poor taste. Great job making a meme thread into political crap. Yes, let’s burn down everything because I don’t agree with a part of it.

UnculturedSwine,

You’re the one commenting on this instance. They manage it and can make the rules. I for one am happy to have a space where I don’t need to worry about assholes making creepy comments about their sexual preferences and casually bigoted opinions.

StarLuigi,
@StarLuigi@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

For real, I love the way Lemmy works so much. It makes it so much easier to keep out bigots and creepy folks

UmbrellAssassin,

This instance wasn’t a political sub. This was for the memes. A person stating their sexual preference isn’t being creepy. Just cause that one’s person opinion isn’t liked doesn’t mean they can be piled onto. Of course when you start stating extremist views you will get people that say the opposite no matter what. That’s what happens when you start hate. You get hate back. I guess you haven’t read the original thread.

LeylaaLovee,

Thank God. THAT post earlier was shocking me.

Peruvia,
@Peruvia@lemmy.ml avatar

Trans rights are human rights. Trans people’s existence doesn’t get to be dictated on other’s whims, or have their validity be aproved by other’s checklists. Trans people get to live and be respected. Dismissing someone’s right to live that literally is just trying to exist peacfully just because you don’t feel like treating them as a human being says everything. I want to have trans people feel safe in their environments,whichever that is (online or irl), and we can’t achieve that unless we’re vocal, straightfoward and fierce in our activism for trans rights. Because trans rights are human rights. Thank you for being here and being a part of this community.

cupcakezealot,
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Ngl I joined this community because I thought it was a trans meme sub/community/whatever based on the colours in the logo :3

featured,

TRANS RIGHTS!!! 🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍⚧️

pancakes,
@pancakes@sh.itjust.works avatar

Trans rights!

I’m more of a casual user so I haven’t seen the transphobia here but fuck transphobes and you should all have a place to feel safe.

growsomethinggood,
@growsomethinggood@kbin.social avatar

Trans rights! Y'all deserve aggressive support!

Serpardum,

I’m here because this showed up in all.

I don’t “aggressively support” squat. I do stand up for life, liberty,and the pursuit of happiness. Someone being trans does not affect anyone’s life, liberty, or pursuit of happiness until they get aggressive.

probably,

What does that even mean?

until they get aggressive

This like not being racist, but they shouldn’t be so loud with those blm protests?

Not homophobic, but they shouldn’t have to make everything gay in the summer?

Maybe in wrong (I hope I am), but that is what your comment sounds like.

Serpardum,

I do not support the BLM protests as they had them because they were violent, yet I support black rights. I understand also Martin Luther King Jrs statement not to have violent protests because it makes the protesters out to be the bad guys.

I was at the Dakota Access Pipeline (DAPL) protests in standing rock protesting against the encroachment of native Americans rights. As and I told them also, "it is not good if you break the law, it makes it look like you are the bad guys. Rather stress how much THEY are breaking the law.

I do not support violent protests for the most part, unless life is at stake.

Sabo_Tabby,

The law got us in the messes. Ya gotta break it. Property destruction and defense from police violence is not violence.

agent_flounder,
@agent_flounder@lemmy.one avatar

You think lives aren’t at stake in those instances? Hmm ok.

Sekoia,

Why are you showing up in a comment section without having most of the context on a post that doesn’t concern you or your communities? Legit asking, what is the point of this comment?

Serpardum,

I did not join this community nor this server, it was thrust upon me.

I support trans rights, don’t get me wrong.

I am just offended by a post thrust upon me and then they claim “this isn’t the community for you”. I DIDN’T JOIN THE DAMN COMMUNITY IN THR FIRST PLACE.

thereticent,

This is the weirdest complaint. The post showed up in your popular/active feed because it got popular/active. It wasn’t targeted to you, and the poster was not addressing you. The post was clearly addressed to users who post on /c/196.

Being annoyed at how the service works is not a good reason to be combative with the poster, and it certainly isn’t a good reason to share your opinions about trans folk being a problem when they get aggressive. Not adding up.

pizzatime,

bruh then just shut the fuck up and keep scrolling

Sekoia,

You know you can block a community right? And if it’s not for you, you can just… not participate, too. It was “thrust upon you” in the same way that every other community in c/all is thrust upon you. You make the active choice of browsing non-curated content, then complain that it doesn’t consider you?

Seriously, you’re complaining about literally nothing. If you don’t feel like this is for you, block it.

dutchkimble,

Yeah, seeing this in all and this person is totally right don’t give em shit

BarrelAgedBoredom,

You can hide posts and block coummunities without leaving pointless contrarian garbage on them

eestileib,

Oh cool, I was getting kind of uncomfortable with how things were going, this sounds just right.

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