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Lombaxter_Stockman, to 196 in 🍑⚡👀
@Lombaxter_Stockman@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

This is WILD

LollerCorleone, to 196 in 🍑⚡👀
@LollerCorleone@kbin.social avatar

I don't get this. Am I not internet savvy enough?

SwedishFool, to aww in Nilla is very proud of her work in the garden

Aw, my old german shepherd used to be named Nilla. You made me smile, give her loads of pets from me.

GiuseppeAndTheYeti,

Will do! She’s having a bit of a lazy morning today, so she’s still in bed while I’m making breakfast, but usually she’s up and lumbering around by the time we finish cooking.

FuglyDuck, to aww in Nilla is very proud of her work in the garden
@FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

Suddenly… I have cravings for nilla wafers.

What a good girl- giver some ear scritches and belly rubs for me!

GiuseppeAndTheYeti,

Aye aye 🫡

ButWhatDoesItAllMean, to aww in Nilla is very proud of her work in the garden

Nilla has such a pretty coat!

smashboy, to aww in Nilla is very proud of her work in the garden

What an incredibly beautiful dog!

WhyIDie, to aww in Nilla is very proud of her work in the garden

she did a great job as branch manager

Mdotaut801, to aww in Nilla is very proud of her work in the garden

That’s a small ass hole.

hrimfaxi_work, to 196 in rule
@hrimfaxi_work@midwest.social avatar

Reer.

jimrob4, to technology in New! From Google! "Enhanced" ad privacy!

This is why I use Linux at home, along with TOR and a VPN. I’m not doing anything other than looking up woodworking and camping stuff, but fuck all ya’ll for being nosy.

senoro,

Literally Ron Swanson

LetterboxPancake,

There are worse fates.

jimrob4,

My dude. All the feels right here.

www.reactiongifs.com/r/2013/07/ron-moved.gif

Bread,

Same here I only do mild stuff like look at computer parts, servers and burglar tools. Damn nosy bastards.

porksoda,

What’s the benefit of Tor and a VPN? Isn’t a VPN sufficient?

sugar_in_your_tea,

That really depends on what you’re trying to do.

A VPN just makes it look like you’re somewhere else, but it doesn’t really add any amount of anonymity. You’ll still get tracked around the Internet like you normally would, but sites will just think you’re somewhere else.

Tor is an anonymizing network, so your traffic gets mixed with a bunch of other people’s traffic so websites get really confused about where you are. It’s almost impossible to track someone using Tor because Tor will change how your packets are routed from request to request.

So if you just want to get access to different Netflix shows, a VPN is probably what you want. If you want to truly be anonymous, you need Tor. Just know that anonymity through Tor comes at a price, a lot of sites block Tor traffic, and performance is nothing to write home about because your traffic is routed through a bunch of other people’s machines.

jimrob4,

Doubly paranoid, doubly protected. Lol.

PP_BOY_,
@PP_BOY_@lemmy.world avatar

Ironically enough, using a VPN makes TOR protection weaker

silas,
@silas@programming.dev avatar

Can you explain this, or point me in the right direction to learn more?

aebletrae, to technology in New! From Google! "Enhanced" ad privacy!
@aebletrae@hexbear.net avatar

Ah, Enhanced, the folks that brought us interrogation.

Snipe_AT, to technology in New! From Google! "Enhanced" ad privacy!
@Snipe_AT@lemmy.atay.dev avatar

“new privacy feature” and then “sites you visit can determine what you like”

translated: “this new privacy feature reduces the amount privacy you have!!! what a great thing you like!!!”

name_NULL111653,

Idk why the heck you just got downvoted into oblivion for pointing out the irony in google calling this a “privacy feature.” Good old reddit moment it seems.

Snipe_AT,
@Snipe_AT@lemmy.atay.dev avatar

lol it’s no worries. actually I have the privilege of being bot-downvoted by CCP sympathizers because of comments on this post lemmy.world/post/2338419, there is also the possibility that I’m just an asshole.

WarmSoda,

Damn, you’re still copy pasting that? That link doesn’t even go anywhere lol

roguetrick,

He thinks he's getting bot downvoted, but there's actually people invested enough to stalk him. Cute.

WarmSoda,

Yeah, he’s definitely “important”

roguetrick,

I don't particularly care about your or his internet spats or attempt to control the all important narrative on lemmy. You are the one giving him rent free space in your brain and on your keyboard though.

WarmSoda,

Lol wat

Snipe_AT,
@Snipe_AT@lemmy.atay.dev avatar

didn’t think about it like that! i feel loved :)

Snipe_AT,
@Snipe_AT@lemmy.atay.dev avatar

See WarmSoda!? This is why I shouldn’t have stopped. People ask this question, your advice was wrong! I’m going to continue what I was doing before you called me stupid.

edit: The link points to lemmy.world which is intermittently getting DDOS’ed.


Please ignore my negative initial vote score, as I have the privilege of being bot-downvoted by CCP sympathizers because of comments on this post lemmy.world/post/2338419, there is also the possibility that I’m just an asshole.

NOT_RICK, to technology in New! From Google! "Enhanced" ad privacy!
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

This is why I use Firefox

theshatterstone54,

Please disable firefox telemetry if u care abt ur privacy

Marxine,
@Marxine@lemmy.ml avatar

I mean, at least FF allows that. Hardened FF is a blessing.

korun,

I never understood what is so problematic about anonymized telemetry, especially for a open-source product.

It provides a really valuable feedback for developers regarding feature usage, performance and error logs – you get the product for free so give something back.

Rade0nfighter,

Exactly! It’s more “Help me help you” than anything nefarious.

theshatterstone54,

While it is mostly helpful, I still do it. To be honest, I would have been alright with it if it was a little more relaxed. What I mean by that is I’m okay with opt out, as long as it’s a product I trust, and I would say I do trust Firefox as a project (Not too sure about the Corporation, the Foundation is fine). What I’m not fine with is the “Data will be deleted within 30 days”. What if someone does not want to give that data in the first place, huh? I’m okay with it, because it’s Firefox, but many people arent, so it’s a matter principle for the people that aren’t. So if someone didn’t want any telemetry collected on them, that telemetry has not only been collected, but is now stored on Mozilla servers for 30 days, which means they can use it for analytics, whether you like it or not. Again, I don’t care, because it’s Firefox, but for the people that do, at the very least, don’t give me or them or anyone else fhat “We will delete within 30 days” thing. Automate it and do it now.

HughJanus,

Plain Jane Firefox ain’t any better than Chrome. Just putting your info in a different database.

Stumblinbear,
@Stumblinbear@pawb.social avatar

Would you rather your data be sent to a browser company or the largest advertising agency in the world?

… Tell me again how these are the same?

HughJanus,

That’s a false dichotomy. I’d rather it not be sent to anyone…

Your data isn’t just sent to a browser company. The browser company shares all of it with an ad agency.

Stumblinbear,
@Stumblinbear@pawb.social avatar

You said “isn’t any better” than chrome. Given the choice between the two, there is clearly a better option

HughJanus,

In regards to privacy, I disagree.

That ad company is probably just selling your data back to Google anyway.

Stumblinbear,
@Stumblinbear@pawb.social avatar

… the ad company IS Google

Firefox collects diagnostics and some usage data, not browsing history, Google collects absolutely anything and everything.

Their primary, nor secondary, source of revenue is not selling your data. You can also disable it entirely pretty easily. You cannot do that in Chrome.

Given the two options, one is clearly better.

HughJanus,

the ad company IS Google

No it’s not. It’s called admarketplace

Firefox collects diagnostics and some usage data, not browsing history,

They collect everything. It’s all spelled out in no uncertain terms in their privacy policy. I’d suggest you have a look.

Stumblinbear,
@Stumblinbear@pawb.social avatar

No it’s not. It’s called admarketplace

Uh. Google is an advertising agency. Their entire business model is collecting data. Chrome is made by Google, ergo the ad company that Chrome uses is Google because Chrome is Google.

They collect everything

Nowhere does it say they collect browsing history. There are multiple places across their site where they explicitly say they do not.

HughJanus,

Chrome is Google.

I obviously wasn’t talking about Google.

Nowhere does it say they collect browsing history

Yes it does.

Stumblinbear,
@Stumblinbear@pawb.social avatar

Do you even remember what conversation we were having?

HughJanus,

Yeah I’m not engaging in these sort of rhetorical questions. Goodbye.

Stumblinbear,
@Stumblinbear@pawb.social avatar

That’s the sound of someone who realizes they forgot what conversation they were having and refused to admit it. That’s okay, it happens to the best of us

flop_leash_973,

The browser company in question is primarily funded by the advertising company in question.

Stumblinbear,
@Stumblinbear@pawb.social avatar

Doesn’t really make a difference. Google pays to keep their search engine the default, same as they do for Apple.

AlpacaChariot, to technology in New! From Google! "Enhanced" ad privacy!

Why are you using chrome if you care about things like this?

WarmSoda,

They’re at work.

AlpacaChariot,

What kind of cruel IT person installs Chrome and forbids Firefox

spamfodder,

@AlpacaChariot @WarmSoda

the kind that doesn't know 'bout 'portable apps', which is what i did when the ITs did that to me back then.

subtext,

In IT’s defense, there are a lot of REALLY stupid people. Plus given the added cost of developing internal apps that work for both, I can understand why corporations would choose to lock you into Chromium. I don’t like it, and I wish there was more trust in the end user, but I do get it.

sugar_in_your_tea,

A lot. My IT company does the same. Fortunately, my team got an exception and we don’t use IT’s computers, but instead we manage it ourselves.

So I use macOS for work, while the rest of the company is on locked down Windows. I’d prefer Linux, but beggars can’t be choosers.

wizardbeard,
@wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

The kind that needs to maintain their users’ access to lazy shitty vendors who only develop their sites for the browser with the largest market share.

Half the vendors we use webapps/websites from jumped to Chrome when IE was dying, the other held on to IE kicking and screaming until forced out, then jumped to Chrome. They aren’t going to spend the resources to ensure cross compatability unless they have significant financial incentive to, and they don’t. And IT isn’t going to tell the business side to forget about getting work done until they find a better vendor just because IT wants to make a stand on browser vendors.

Frederic, to technology in New! From Google! "Enhanced" ad privacy!

me hugs Firefox

theshatterstone54,

Which is literally kept alive by Google. They have a monopoly, stop deluding yourself intot hinking there are any good guys (except maybe the Librewolf, Mullvad, and Tor devs)

Marxine,
@Marxine@lemmy.ml avatar

Librewolf is based on FF, you know right? Mozilla does receive Google funding (that’s why their default search engine is Google), but adopting FF and derivatives is also about Chromium not being the single dominant engine: that would only strengthen Google’s monopoly.

As long as we don’t use Chromium-based browsers (and Google services) we’re doing good against Google’s monopoly already.

theshatterstone54,

While I agree, most people fail to see the bigger picture. They use Firefox to prevent Chromium from having a monopoly for browser features, but what they fail to see is that in most cases, Google already has full control. If Chromium browsers get a feature, Firefox will inevitably implement it in Gecko and the browser so that users don’t say things like “Firefox sucks”. Firefox does not suck, Google and their monopolistic practices suck. Now it does provide some practical benefit, for example when Google decides to introduce a more restricted version of a pre existing feature, Firefox can opt to keep on using tje less restricted version as well. The most prominent example of this is the whole Manifest v3 mess. But with something like Web Environment Integrity (or as many, myself included, call it, DRM for the Web), Firefox will inevitably adopt it after Google does, so as to not have users upset and leaving.

Marxine,
@Marxine@lemmy.ml avatar

I agree with what’s gonna happen. At the same time, I guess Mozilla won’t make it hard for “Google’s web DRM” to be either toggled off via user config, or sandboxed from user data. They have interest in catering to people fed up with Google’s constant privacy invasions, so I’m currently waiting to see their next actions with moderate confidence and a healthy dose of skepticism as well.

theshatterstone54,

Yeah, I’d say that’s the best stance for anyone to take, as a user

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