I used to check the front page at least once every day, and occassionally check specific subreddits. Now I don’t look at reddit unless theres some drama, like mods getting purged, then I’d go there and enjoy the drama. Occasionally there will be questions that only reddit has the answer to so I have to reluctantly use it. I...
yes, but only for specific content. my city and state have a very active subs that just hasn’t really taken off on Lemmy yet. there’s a lot of news from both that i can’t get anywhere else. similarly i’m pretty active on r/dmacademy and there just isn’t a community on lemmy that i’ve found that is similar yet. i think when those communities take off here i’ll finally cut the cord on reddit.
Yeah, I do. There’s just more content there. More articles. More questions. More discussion. Not all of it is good, but a lot of what I use reddit for is taking the temperature on things… games, movies, books, general opinions on news articles, etc. I like Lemmy, but it doesn’t have the userbase to make this my only “front page of the internet” for now.
I guess it’s self explanatory but I keep seeing all this stuff about how everyone is moving from Reddit to lemmy and I’m wondering if anyone knows if that’s really what’s happening. If you have numbers that’s even better....
As someone who is still on reddit and other mainstream sites as well as fediverse, here are my impressions.
There is definitely a frustration around the enshitefication of most of the major platforms, which is causing users to seek out alternatives to these sites. A lot of this has translated into increased traffic and membership on fediverse sites like Lemmy and Mastodon, but the reality is the situation still hasn't gotten bad enough for most general users to abandon the platforms entirely, or they stick around because despite everything, they are still the platforms with the most reach, and are still easy to use for most users.
Mastodon seems to have waves of activity based on the latest major fuckup by Elon Musk, but because of the learning curb and the differences in how Mastodon works, combined with the lack of user activity compared to twitter, most users don't stick around. Meanwhile, Bluesky is advertising itself as twitter pre enshitefication, and Threads is promising a userbase comparable to twitter without it being ran by Musk, which to a more casual person may seems more appealing. Fediverse is more appealing to people like you and me because we're nerds. Like we are interested in the technology, and want to dive into it to create the web experience we want. That's not going to appeal to the average user though.
There are weeks where I spend most of my time online on kbin and mastodon, and if I go by word and news posted, it would seem like reddit and twitter are on their final ropes, everyone is rushing to the fediverse, and we are about to enter another wild west period of the internet. But then I go back to reddit, and most of the communities I was apart of still seem as active as they have ever been. Most people I followed on twitter still post regularly with similar amounts of likes, retweets and comments, and most content creators will still point people towards these platforms for further engagement.
One space I have seen a major shift in is the LGBTQ community. There is definitely a diminishing of activity on major platforms mostly because the recent enshitefications have made these platforms more hostile places. Fediverse is a popular alternative for these communities, which is probably why you see a large amount of queer users within the fediverse. A lot of tech communities have also flocked to the fediverse and other communities because these spaces attract a lot of tech savy nerds, and are a great place to find fellow techies who know what you're talking about.
Overall, There is definitely a shift in how people use the internet and how they interact in Social media. The echochambers within the fediverse though would make it seem like it is bigger than it actually is. I would say we are seeing the dawn of the expansion of the internet, where instead of everything being centralized on 4 or 5 major sites, there will be a number of smaller sites that host their own communities. It probably won't be anywhere near as decentralized as the pre youtube and facebook era of the internet, but you'll at least have other places to go to when you get sick of a site, but still want to find like minded people to discuss your interests with.
Can’t watch the rest of the video after only 2 minutes. I am a Hong Konger, I know first hand HK is NOT using the NSL “to target people working in secret for a foreign power to damage our community.”
Fact is, the HK puppet government is following CCP’s footsteps to target those who calls for democratic measures and rule of law to be applied and upheld in HK. These people, by voicing out, are now fugitives who in the eyes of the HK govt have “all violated the all encompassing NSL”. They even have a bounty on them.
I risk crossing the red line myself by saying this. Hopefully the HK police is not yet scouring Lemmy, or I could very well be labelled as someone “who is working secretly for a foreign power” myself.
This “reporter” is clearly spreading fake news.
Edit: I just noticed the sidebar of this community that says “Please only post links to actual news sources, no tabloid sites, etc”. Has this post then violated the rule? How do I get in touch with the mods?
I feel like all the news subs on Lemmy are slowly turning into a sixth form politics class with all the commie stuff recently. Is anyone here over the age of twenty, lol.
See I thought that Beehaw.org was the Lemmy instance for news, as it’s supposed to be a well moderated instance, am I incorrect in that assumption?
Also it would be nice if Beehaw’s mods approved my account so that I could use that instance for those purposes. I’ve been trying to get an account created with them for almost a month now.
I’m like you OP, my main focus on Reddit was staying up-to-date on the most current events and technology/science based posts, the sort I generally used on Reddit was “Top this Hour” because that seemed to be the most reliable and up-to-date hourly news as the news rolled in.
Another thing that helped greatly was Reddit is Fun’s content filtering capabilities. Because who tf wants to read some bullshit from Fox News or other severely corrupted and biased news sources? The third party app for Lemmy that let’s me eliminate garbage sources from my feed is the one that wins me as a user, and I used RiF for as long as it’s been around, so they would be winning a loyal user.
See I thought that Beehaw.org was the Lemmy instance for news, as it’s supposed to be a well moderated instance, am I incorrect in that assumption?
I just started a US and World news community on my instance (had federation issues with Beehaw and a lot of stuff randomly didn’t come through in either direction, especially comments/replies). I contributed to the moderation policies they use for their news sub, and the community I put together has even tougher standards than that.
If you’re interested, here’s a post I put together with the standards for posts and the moderation policies we use: dubvee.org/post/58845
I feel guilty plugging my own community, but if Beehaw isn’t an option (they really are well modded), then I hope for this to be the next best thing. I’ve found the other existing news communities to be somewhat lacking in proper moderation and source vetting.
I just checked out KBin for the first time. Yes there’s a lot of duplicated communities on there but the site itself has quite a nice UI. Like a more updated version of Lemmy keeping the simpl9icity but not going balls-to-the-wall modern like Reddit.
I’ve signed up and think I’ll be using both. I don’t see a problem with this. Sometimes I get a bit bored of Lemmy’s stories not updating so I’ll switch to KBin and see what’s going on.
It’s no different than when I used to get bored of Reddit and would check out BBC News or YouTube for stuff.
The hottest topic in the #Fediverse right now has to be #Threads, formerly known as #P92 or #Barcelona, the alleged #Twitter killer by #Meta, and what'll happen when it federates with the rest of the Fediverse. So without further ado, here are my thoughts about this.
So why did Meta announce Threads to include #ActivityPub?
Well, it certainly wasn't because they needed a ready-to-use federation protocol. Threads itself will remain a centralised, proprietary, corporate silo with exactly one instance. I mean, when #Tumblr announced to include ActivityPub, this didn't come with the announcement that everyone will be able to run their own Tumblr instance, remember? It just meant that their silo will be able to connect to Mastodon & Co. and quit being a walled garden.
It's more likely that Threads was planned to get ActivityPub support because at least the EU is going to force online services to become interoperable in some ways. And some big corporations are growing cautious of the expected "or else!" So if Meta wants to offer Threads in the EU, Threads will have to be able to connect to something not owned by Meta. So they've decided to include ActivityPub because a) it's ready-to-use, b) it's free-to-use, c) it already has lots of projects and instances and users to connect to, d) it's something Meta has heard of, and e) it isn't Dorsey's #ATproto.
I mean, they could also have played it safe and included #OStatus just to have something they'd theoretically be able to connect to without running into nearly as many renitent netizens opposed to Meta. It'd still pass the #DigitalServicesAct. But they probably don't even know that OStatus exists.
That said, I currently wouldn't be so certain that Threads will actually add ActivityPub. It has never been Threads' unique selling-point. That'd rather be Twitter-like microblogging without Elon Musk or Jack Dorsey at the helm plus one-click registration for Instagram users. Marc Zuckerberg has never wanted to have his own Mastodon. He has always wanted to have his own Twitter. And now that the real deal is on its deathbed, he finally can.
If ActivityPub integration was actually only planned as appeasement towards the EU, it has become completely unnecessary when Threads blew a raspberry and flipped two birds at the #GDPR with its iOS app that phones all your most private data home to Threads and Instagram and Facebook to be sold to the highest bidder. Because of that, Meta is banned from offering Threads in the EU altogether. Why appease to the EU when you're banned there anyway?
So there wouldn't be any reason to be surprised if ActivityPub never came to Threads. After all, #Bluesky has talked big about decentralisation and federation and even the "invention" of #NomadicIdentity (which was actually invented in 2011 and first implemented in 2012 on Red Matrix, known as #Hubzilla today). Bluesky was announced long before Threads. Bluesky was launched long before Threads. And just like Threads, it has yet to deliver. As of now, it's just another centralised, monolithic silo, and third-party developments are the only reason why it isn't entirely a walled garden.
I guess even Jack Dorsey had to realise that it's complete non-sense to create a technological platform for decentralised social networking that's only compatible to itself, save for connectors developed by third parties without his consent. I guess he must have realised just how big and wide-spread the ActivityPub-based Fediverse is and how rapidly it's growing. Decentralising Bluesky now would be like introducing a replacement for e-mail that's completely incompatible with e-mail itself.
In fact, I think that Dorsey had launched the Bluesky project and placed high bets on it before he even knew that the Fediverse existed. And when he found out about the Fediverse, there was no way back anymore. Not without being punished by his investors.
Marc Zuckerberg, on the other hand, knew about the Fediverse when he greenlit Project 92, now known as Threads, for one of its earliest announced features was interoperability with the Fediverse via ActivityPub. That's another difference: He didn't want to compete with the Fediverse, he wanted to connect to it. Whether he actually will, now that one of the main perks of doing so has vanished due to Meta being Meta and the EU reacting accordingly, remains to be seen.
But even if ActivityPub came to Threads, that wouldn't mean that Zuck embraces the Fediverse. He won't. Even if they all used ActivityPub, the Fediverse as we know it now would be direct competition for Threads.
Threads won't tell its users about Mastodon, Akkoma, The Project Still Known As CalcKey, Pixelfed, Lemmy etc. That'd be like Microsoft officially acknowledging that Linux-based operating systems are nice, too, if installed stand-alone instead of Windows. That'd be like Apple officially publishing a list of the top five greatest Android phones with Samsung on #1.
Threads won't tell its users how to migrate to another Fediverse instance. That'd be like Microsoft officially publishing a tutorial on how to wipe your hard drive and replace the Windows on your computer with Ubuntu.
And Threads won't add migration functionality to elsewhere in the Fediverse either. That'd be like Microsoft installing an exporter for personal data on everyone's Windows machines on the next patch day that makes it easier for you to keep your data when replacing Windows with GNU/Linux on your machine.
For a while after ActivityPub has been activated, practically nobody on Threads would make use of it, especially not to connect with users in the rest of the Fediverse. They simply won't know that this rest of the Fediverse exists, much less who exists there. If any connections will be established, they'll be in-bound.
Even these first connections won't come to pass by someone discovering a cool Threads account in their Mastodon timeline. Instead, someone will stumble upon Threads accounts either because they're on Threads themselves or because the addresses of these Threads accounts are published somewhere on the Web, e.g. someone adding their Threads ID to their blog or their website. They'd end up connecting by copy-pasting that someone's Threads ID into their search field.
After these first connections have been established, it will still take very very long for the Threads users to discover that there's a Fediverse beyond Threads. No, really.
For comparison: Many of you came into the Fediverse through mastodon.social. And I dare say that a great deal of those of you did not know anything about decentralisation and instances and all that stuff at that point and instead believed that they had joined another centralised walled garden like Twitter. Someone has told me a while ago that some people who came in through mastodon.social took three months to even notice that Mastodon is decentralised, that many of the toots in their timelines come from someplace else than mastodon.social.
It takes new Mastodon users even longer to discover that there's a Fediverse beyond Mastodon. From my experience, that's often three to six months. There are three major ways for Mastodon users to find that out.
One, you stumble upon a post that mentions Fediverse projects that aren't Mastodon, and that mentions that they're Fediverse projects and connected to Mastodon.
Two, you post something that implies or out-right claims that the Fediverse is only Mastodon, and someone comes and tells you otherwise in the comments.
Three, you discover weird-looking posts in your timeline that can't possibly come from Mastodon with way over 500 characters, strange-looking mentions, strange-looking hashtags etc. If you inquire whoever wrote that post about it, they'll tell you they aren't on Mastodon, but on an instance of another project which is nonetheless connected to Mastodon.
It'll be very similar on Threads, but on a much greater scale with a much bigger timeframe. I guess many Threads users may spend years without even encountering a post from outside. Most will spend many months. And I'm not talking about actually noticing that the post in question did not originate on Threads.
Unless Threads will actually slam account IDs with non-Threads domains on them into its users' faces, I think one element that Threads users will notice will be hashtags which Threads doesn't have, but which I don't expect Threads to strip out entirely like Mastodon strips out any and all text formatting. Thread user: "Hey dumbass, this ain't Twitter, Threads doesn't have hashtags!" External user: "But Mastodon has them. I'm on Mastodon and not on Threads." Thread user: "What's Mastodon, and WTF are you doing on my timeline then?!" External user: "[Fediverse explanation noises]" And even this will only lead to one more Threads user knowing about the rest of the Fediverse. Out of hundreds of millions.
The difference between mastodon.social and Threads is that new arrivals on mastodon.social are left uninformed about what Mastodon is and how it works to make on-boarding easier than if they were educated about decentralisation and instances and other Fediverse projects and then left to choose the project and the instance themselves. Threads users, on the other hand, are left believing that, beyond being a centralised silo, Threads is a walled garden with no connections to the outside world whatsoever. To be fair, it is one right now and will remain one for the foreseeable future. mastodon.social doesn't try to pretend to be a walled garden. And Mastodon itself only does so a little by hardly, if ever, acknowledging the rest of the Fediverse.
If Threads users should actually set out to discover the rest of the Fediverse and make connections to there, the impression they get from the Fediverse won't be too positive. That's because two out of three Fediverse instances will be inaccessible to them due to having blocked Threads altogether. From the point-of-view of a Threads user who has always put full trust and faith into all Facebook/Meta products and never used anything decentralised before, believing that even e-mail is a Microsoft or Google or Yahoo! product, the Fediverse will appear as nothing but a bunch of entitled arseholes.
It certainly won't help that the [Fediverse explanation noises] won't include, "This is all just hackish amateur stuff rather than professional corporate software development, and we're lightyears from your features, but it does its job." Instead, users from other Fediverse projects will mention ("brag about") the features that these other Fediverse projects have that Threads lacks. Hashtags, for example. Let me show you them.
It gets even worse if someone on Threads happens upon someone on something else than Mastodon. In comparison with Akkoma, Threads pales more. In comparison with what's-still-but-not-for-much-longer-called-CalcKey, it pales even more. And now imagine what'd happen if someone on Threads met someone on Hubzilla. Or /kbin. "Whaddaya mean, you're talkin' to me from a Reddit clone?! How's that even possible?"
Okay, so those Fediverse people aren't just entitled, they're also snooty braggarts who claim that their stuff that was developed with a budget of zero is allegedly better than Threads that was developed with a several-billion-dollar budget.
Let's just say that even if the Threads users discovered the Fediverse beyond Threads by-and-by, they wouldn't be too keen on connecting to what's left of it that they can actually connect to. The biggest chances will be if it'll be possible on Threads to share Follow Friday posts from Mastodon in such a way that it isn't too obvious that they come from Mastodon. Since Mastodon mentions don't include domains, they might pretty well pass for mentioning Threads users, and the Threads community will believe that Follow Friday was invented on Threads. Also, out-right celebrities on George Takei's level of fame if they reside on instances that don't block Threads. But otherwise, no chance.
thank you much for the list, and the links for Lemmy communities!
I really just wanted something that could have separated recipes and grocery lists, because my partner is long distance and I wanted this to help them out too. those were my only requirements, I just hadn’t known my full range of options at the time.
and thank you too for mentioning to look to solve problems. I’m trying to do that, and not go too deep off into trying to host things I don’t need. I had been looking for an RSS reader to keep up with some news things since I don’t go on reddit anymore, but I found out that Homarr has a widget for it. trying that out now.
I’m honestly really happy that Elon Musk bought Twitter and basically destroyed it. If it weren’t for him, open protocols such as ActivityPub wouldn’t be on news. I wish I could say the same for Reddit though. The amount of information it holds is simply too much to ignore. During the blackout, it was hard to find answers to my tech related questions as all subreddits were private. Hopefully tech community will move on to Lemmy.
I admit to spending too much time on Reddit during my work day as a distraction. It’s a problem. What’s worse is that Reddit has become so full of uninteresting content that I spend most of my time downvoting things that aren’t at all relevant to the sub they’re posted in. And with a lot of the front page subs being...
I made a similar comment to another thread, but I’ve been having login issues and I don’t think it posted.
I’m not sure if it’s being able to compare apples to Oranges with Lemmy, and I was very aware that the quality of reddit was lower than when I joined in like 2010. But Holy Cow is it ever bad at Reddit.
RIF is still working for me, I’m logged out and never vote or comment on Reddit anymore. But I still pop in to view local news and subreddits that don’t have the same traction here yet.
The current Reddit experience is terrible. All the comments feel like opinion wedge bots stating divisive opinions that aren’t engaging with anyone.
All the top/best sorted comments are a few minutes old and largely irrelevant. Seems like reddit is pushing bot/chat GPT content to replace migration users.
I’d rather be on a buggy platform, talking to real people, who disagree or not, are engaging in real discussion.
Going to reddit when I’ve crushed through most hot topics on Lemmy really drives home what makes a social platform good, and what makes a social platform bad.
Hopefully Reddit doesn’t fully migrate here and it can serve it’s new purpose of being a social cesspool trap for special interest bots.
Getting the same news from Lemmy has provided a comparison that allowed me to see exactly how toxic Reddit currently is.
I have learned more in the few weeks about self hosting, rust, flutter and other things in lemmy, mastodon and fediverse than in the last few years in Reddit and other social media. Maybe learned more in hacker news. It’s awesome here and love the people here who are wonderful and knowledgeable and teach me patiently without...
Not exactly what you’re asking, but might be useful.
In 2020, during the pandemic, I decided to reduce my news consumption. My problem wasn’t just the quality/subjects, but also the quantity, so I changed my behaviour and the way I consumed news. I went from using apps like Google News to use a mix of RSS feeds, podcasts, and platforms like this one.
There are a few sites that write about subjects I like, so I subscribe to their feed. Sometimes I subscribe to the complete feed, sometimes only to a category’s feed. A bit similar to “Google News”, but with the sites I want.
Hacker News and Reddit (and now Lemmy) is a good source for technology in general and specific areas (in Reddit/Lemmy’s case).
For regular news (politics, occurrences, etc), I subscribe to 2 weekly podcasts and that gives me the main points of that week (and 2 different point of views).
Initially I had subscribed to a weekly newsletter digest as some of news sites here have them, but I ended up with the podcasts as I can listen to them while doing something else.
Apps that displayed news and didn’t let me hide them where either removed or replaced. Radio stations also have the habit of having news, so I mostly stream music these days. I also don’t watch news on TV.
I check my feeds and HN/Reddit/Lemmy at least once a day, usually in the morning. Podcasts… it’s when I have the time.
I was using Feeder for RSS feeds, but I wanted something online/cross-platform, so I use Feedly. For podcasts, I only use it on my phone, so AntennaPod is fine.
I don’t need to know everything or need the constant drama. I don’t want hot takes on “breaking news”, to know what someone some random sports dude said or with whom some celebrity went out with. I also don’t want to be always checking the news. It won’t work for everyone, but works well for me.
I came here because Reddit is changing, and I don’t like it. I’m generally helpful. But if someone is being an idiot, or a bigot. I want to point and laugh at them if I so choose.
For a while the content on Reddit has been lacking, and people (myself included) are having to watch what they say. I wanted to find a place where I can generally be helpful and share my “old person knowledge”, but if someone’s being an a not great human being. I don’t have to be afraid to tell them so.
The biggest problem that I see with Lemmy is the sign up process. If someone were to ask me to explain to them how to sign up. I’m not sure I could. Like I googled “how to create Lemmy account”. I found a Reddit post that offered a list of Lemmy instances. The first like 3 I tried didn’t work.
When I finally found one that let me create a login. The rest was pretty easy. Honestly, since getting here I enjoy Lemmy more than Reddit these days. I don’t quite have my news dialed in like I want yet, but I’ll get there.
I doubt it. The Indian subs moved elsewhere (squabbles.io?) and the ones on lemmy world or other instances are not official. Most are staying back on reddit. If you feel there's too much Indian news you can limit it.
Be honest, do you still use reddit?
I used to check the front page at least once every day, and occassionally check specific subreddits. Now I don’t look at reddit unless theres some drama, like mods getting purged, then I’d go there and enjoy the drama. Occasionally there will be questions that only reddit has the answer to so I have to reluctantly use it. I...
Is it really a mass exodus? And is it really a mass exodus to lemmy?
I guess it’s self explanatory but I keep seeing all this stuff about how everyone is moving from Reddit to lemmy and I’m wondering if anyone knows if that’s really what’s happening. If you have numbers that’s even better....
UK is copying Hong Kong's National Security Law (www.youtube.com)
The West Must Recognize Its Hypocrisy writes Financial Times (archive.is)
Libreddit and Teddit are practically dead
It appears API rate limiting has effectively killed these alternatives. You essentially get nothing but “Too many requests” 429 errors....
Mark Zuckerberg & Meta to Release Commercial Version of its AI/LLM (LLaMA) In Effort to Catch Rivals
cross-posted from: lemmy.world/post/1428161...
PlayStation 5 (PS5) - A place for news and discussion of all current and upcoming PlayStation 5 and PSVR2 games and accessories. (lemmy.ml)
Lemmy Link to PlayStation 5 Community...
/r/AccidentalRenaissance moderators have all resigned. The subreddit has permanently shut down and moved to Lemmy. (lemmy.nz)
AccidentalRenaissance has no active moderators due to Reddit’s unprecedented API changes, and has thus been privated to prevent vandalism....
Video: Lkw schiebt Klimaaktivisten der "Letzten Generation" in Stralsund vor sich her (www.ndr.de) German
Starting my selfhosted journey
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Big list of specialized instances (kbin.social)
Updated 2023-11-12...
How it going here? I'm looking forward to helping fuck up Reddit's IPO.
Done with Reddit’s bullshit, and happy to check this out as it seems to be popular. Any apps that people would recommend for this platform?
How ActivityPub is setting the stage to weave all your social media feeds together (www.popsci.com)
I'm so thankful for this alternative.
I admit to spending too much time on Reddit during my work day as a distraction. It’s a problem. What’s worse is that Reddit has become so full of uninteresting content that I spend most of my time downvoting things that aren’t at all relevant to the sub they’re posted in. And with a lot of the front page subs being...
learned more in few weeks than in few years in other social media
I have learned more in the few weeks about self hosting, rust, flutter and other things in lemmy, mastodon and fediverse than in the last few years in Reddit and other social media. Maybe learned more in hacker news. It’s awesome here and love the people here who are wonderful and knowledgeable and teach me patiently without...
Google News Alternatives
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Just a regular day in here. (media.kbin.social)
Where do you read Apple news?
Hi all 👋...
Besides tech-focused instances, what other subject focused Lemmy/Kbinstances have you found?
cross-posted from: lemmy.world/post/1374550...
Goldman Sachs says India will overtake the U.S. to become the world's second-largest economy by 2075 (www.cnbc.com)