carpelbridgesyndrome,

The article doesn’t count the popups you get when you try to change your default browser

doleo,

Thirstily?

01189998819991197253,
@01189998819991197253@infosec.pub avatar

with the added trust of Microsoft

That’s rich.

KyuubiNoKitsune,

If you type your username into the android dialler, it has a easter egg

01189998819991197253,
@01189998819991197253@infosec.pub avatar

Yup! But I think it only works on stock dialer.

TheAnonymouseJoker,
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

The only Chromium browse you should use, as second opinion, is Ungoogled Chromium. Use Firefox or its forks as your primary browser.

Use Revo Uninstaller or Chris Titus winutil script to purge MS Edge.

mojo,

Ungoogled Chromium requires so much work to be usable, on top of having no built-in updater. That’s a really bad recommendation. Have you looked at the steps to even install widevine? You even have to open up chrome flags to manually install an addon that lets you install add-ons.

TheAnonymouseJoker,
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

Chrome flags and developer addon option sounds like 5-10 minutes of work to me, and for updates zero work on Linux since it exists as Flatpak, and you update your Flatpaks with flatpak update command. On Windows and MacOS, likewise, you just download the newest binary setup or use one of those new fancy package managers.

Ungoogled Chromium is the only clean, non-spyware version of Chromium, which makes it the only correct Chromium recommendation. You want to recommend adware/spyware/cryptomalware for 1% more convenience?

lemillionsocks,
@lemillionsocks@beehaw.org avatar

I dont really use windows often outside of my work devices these days, but even if I did I wouldnt use edge as a primary browser based on how things rolled with IE6 and active X.

Yeah yeah youre a new friendlier Microsoft, webstandards and html5 are more locked in, and your browser is a chrome fork, and you “<3 Linux”. I remember what you are and how you locked down the web when you had a chance. Personally I dont use chrome for the same reason given the direction google has been heading.

But to answer “why not Edge?”: because you spent the better part of the last few decades sucking and amoral companies dont deserve the benefit of good faith.

systemglitch,

But not Firefox? Lol

erwan,

Chrome is where the market share is.

Also the 2 people per month downloading Firefox probably do it for privacy reasons, harder to convince them than a user using a Big Tech browser to use a different Big Tech browser.

TheAnonymouseJoker,
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

Using marketshare as a metric to see how good something is, is a delusional idea. By your logic, iPhones would be the best phones and Macbooks would be best laptops, none of which are true. Both are bought majorly by people who want to throw money for social status, and FCP or FL Studio users are somewhere below 3%.

soviettaters,

Why would Microsoft go out of their way to defend against Firefox? The people who primarily use Firefox (including me) are set in their ways and far less willing to switch browsers than, say, the 90% of people who use Chrome.

TheAnonymouseJoker,
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

Persistence is the key to changing minds, sometimes chipping away at your liberties with reasons, sometimes with excuses. Each privacy-less person is a puppet in the making for the elites.

erwan,

I’m not saying Firefox is less good or anything.

Just that I’m not surprised Microsoft doesn’t bother targeting Firefox with this popup. Microsoft’s goal is to get more market share and going after Firefox users is not going to get much of it. Even if they somehow convince every single Firefox users to use Edge they would still be far behind Chrome.

TheAnonymouseJoker,
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

Microsoft targeted Firefox many times in the past with Edge default popups.

illectrility,
@illectrility@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, using Firefox is a real hassle compared to Edge or Chrome. It’s really only worth it if you’re hardcorde into privacy but barely usable for your average Joe /s

Hadriscus,

Come on, you gotta go all the way to www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/windows/, click the big download button and install it. What a chore ! Who would willingly do all of these three steps ?

illectrility,
@illectrility@lemmy.world avatar

Exactly! Chrome is just so much easier to install. All you have to do is go to www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/, click the big download button and install it. So much easier!

thorbot,

JuSt iNsTaLl LiNuX

TheAnonymouseJoker,
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

If you decapitalised the letters, it would be a profound, enlightening advice.

tomcatt360,
@tomcatt360@lemmy.world avatar

I always bypass ever launching Edge by installing with winget install mozilla.firefox

Or just install Linux.

kadu,
@kadu@lemmy.world avatar

My custom Windows 11 installer doesn’t even have Edge - not even the WebView component. It might have trace files in the system, but they can’t be opened or scheduled to run even with elevated privileges.

Zero Edge for me.

01189998819991197253,
@01189998819991197253@infosec.pub avatar

Could you elaborate on the custom installer?

vox,
@vox@sopuli.xyz avatar

last time i removed edge on win11 my svg files and the open with menu broke. It’s ok to remove on win10 tho

kadu,
@kadu@lemmy.world avatar

That’s probably because you’ve installed a full install and removed it later (with inherited permissions or using TrustedInstaller) in which case several things do indeed break.

vox,
@vox@sopuli.xyz avatar

i used the aveyo script on a fresh win 11 install (since it’s compatible eith MSER/MSEdgeRedirect)

moody,

I have to use Windows for work, and every single day, I open Outlook and I’m greeted with “WE RESPECT YOUR PRIVACY, please share your data with us.” And every day I say “Don’t share optional data.” Clearly there’s a fucking problem here.

shiveyarbles,

No you misunderstood, that’s “WE INSPECT YOUR PRIVACY”

Zerush,
@Zerush@lemmy.ml avatar

I never had this problem to put Vivaldi or any other browser instead of EDGE. Maybe i’m still with W10, maybe the last Windows which can be tamed. The only thing is that in Windows it isn’t enough to declare the browser as default in the browser settings, you must do it also in the Windows default app settings too, but after this you’ll never seen EDGE again, at least in W10.

systemglitch,

So those random things that sometimes still pop up edge can be overcome? Colour me surprised. Thanks, I’ll be doing that as soon as I’m on my PC.

johnthedoe,

Who wants to use any product or service this desperate to try and keep you.

amio,

I swear Microsoft, particularly the Windows and Edge divisions, have consultants on retainer directly from Hell - specialists in making things absolutely infuriating for no particularly good reason.

Kjatten,

Akira! Leave me alone! Aach!

waspentalive,
@waspentalive@lemmy.one avatar

One of their choices should have been: "This survey is exactly the reason I am going to a different browser. "

amio,

Way too realistic, they don't want to hear shit like that. Way too true.

drwho,
@drwho@beehaw.org avatar

Because they know what’ll happen. And they don’t want to have to address it at the next quarterly.

hperrin,

Desperate ex girlfriend, Microsoft.

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